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Egbert
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 Posted - 18 Jul 2007 : 8:54:37 PM
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| At the moment there are several but standouts are WH Justice (is he in the UK?), WSA Charissma, Ali Khamsin... |
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lulu
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Posted - 20 Jul 2007 : 11:15:35 AM
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So interesting to read about pedigrees, my mare can trace back on both sides to Mesaoud, Rose of Sharon and has some amazing
horses in her lines including Skowronek, Naseem and Somara.
Had her too late unfortunately to carry on the line. |
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Egbert
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Posted - 20 Jul 2007 : 11:56:24 AM
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Natalie,
Meant to point out that what you should look at is Seglawi stallions, the three above representative of outstanding Seglawi stallions...But there are more. The tail female lines you would be looking for are
Bint Helwa,
Basilisk,
*Wadduda
Milordka,
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Bushburn_Aramist
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England
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Posted - 20 Jul 2007 : 11:59:09 AM
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| Thankyou for the help i will be able to start looking for suitable stallions now I will let you know how it goes and i will try and take some pis of eliqa |
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susan p
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Scotland
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Posted - 20 Jul 2007 : 10:31:28 PM
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Hi Egbert,
I would be really gratefull if you could tell me anything about Princess Nualas lines,her sire is Nemesiah and her dam is Princess Godara.Thanks Susan |
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Egbert
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USA
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Posted - 21 Jul 2007 : 11:06:06 AM
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Hi Susan,
Beautiful sire line of Abu Mlech through Trypolis, Enwer Bey, Banat...very athletic...the bays are stunning and Nemesiah's dam line is to the great Seglawi Bint Helwa.
Nuala's dam line is to Takritiyah, OA imported in '39 from the desert apparently and is a Juaithnieh Hamad. I know absolutely nothing of this tail female or strain. There is an enormous amount of beauty within the pedigree from both sire and dam so would assume you have a lovely, athletic mare. Am going to try to find more because you are the second person to present a tail female: Takritiyah. |
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georgiauk
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susan p
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Scotland
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Posted - 21 Jul 2007 : 3:45:43 PM
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Egbert,thankyou so much for that,I think she looks to be high percentage egyptian,but I was having problems finding out about her.She is very chunky and athletic,I will try to put on some pictures |
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Egbert
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USA
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Posted - 22 Jul 2007 : 02:27:41 AM
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Oh No, Georgia! How horrible. What a beautiful stallion Nazdromal was-if the photo on the all breeds is at all representative. What a huge loss! Am so very very sorry.
With that pedigree-the foal must be wonderful. Can't wait to see photos.
Susan,
There is very very little Egyptian blood comparatively. There is, on the other hand a high percentage of Polish and Crabbet/Old English.
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Your 4 generation going top to bottom with 16 horses in the pedigree:
Polish, Polish, Polish, Polish, Polish, 1/2Polish 1/2 Crabbet, 1/2 Russian 1/2 -1/2 Crabbet/American, Spanish-Egyptian/English, Spanish/Egyptian, Crabbet/Egyptian, Polish, Polish, Crabbet, Crabbet/Desert
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lulu
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Posted - 23 Jul 2007 : 12:30:34 PM
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Find all this so intersting, being new to the site.
My mare traces back to early Crabbett, Mesaoud, and has Rose of
Sharon and Skowronek on both side, would loved to have bred from
her but didn't get her until quite late she is now 23.
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Egbert
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USA
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Posted - 23 Jul 2007 : 4:19:19 PM
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Hi Lulu,
What a shame as those few horses sound most promising of a fine pedigree. |
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georgiauk
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katefox1812
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Jul 2007 : 5:57:08 PM
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You must be frightfully busy but if you have a moment I would love some Egberty thoughts on the likely qualities of the foal due in 2008 from H Tobago and DA Fiestaa (Echo Magnificoo x Cheyanne)- I can't figure out how to post a link to allbreeds - the url doesn't come up on my computer, sorry! But if you type in da fiestaa she will come up!
Fiestaa is the dam of Fantasiaa Arabians' international multi-champion stallion MB Capritzioo - and I think they are rather hoping for 'another Capritzioo' from this match!
If you have another moment, Fiestaa's daughter MB Fantasiaa is also in foal to Tobago, and Fantasiaa's daughter MB Noaa is due to be AI'd to him soon...
Quite unusual I think to have 3 generations bred to the same stallion in the same year...Nancy clearly thinks these bloodlines will be a good match!
If some kind person could either tell me how to post these allbreeds links or do it for me to save Egbert the trouble of looking them up, I'd be most grateful! |
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Barabia
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Egbert
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USA
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Posted - 24 Jul 2007 : 1:09:27 PM
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Hi Georgia,
Llite Baroud Ibn Gomel:
What a little cutie!Sire line Amurath Sahib-very powerful and confers a distinctly Seglawi look on very Kuhailan pedigree-via Razina and on to Rodania...So you have a very high quality youngster with the strength of the Kuhailan with a touch of the Seglawi...You will be able to show him both halter and performance.
Bia, you are awesome! Many thanks! (names work for me! Your imagination is delightful!)
Ok! Got that Kate?
Tobago x Fiestaa should be very interesting....It is a Kuhailan pedigree but if the TF of Wild Thyme kicks in magically as she frequently does, this could be a youngster that exceeds all expectations. There are some awesomely beautiful horses in that pedigree-Aza Destiny was to die for; *Soufian exemplified the Seglawi as does Echo Magnifficcoo and that should carry through on this cross-everything a tad longer than what you would see with the sire.
Frantasiaa brings in another line to Bey Shah...However as both sire and dam are chestnut the *Bask blood doubled here would probably give a little extra beauty, very fine throat latches, nice eye and high stepping action.
This one to Noaa is virtually the same but this time the up close doubling is to Padron. This again should see brilliant action but a much more rounded very powerful Kuhailan look.
Sire line Nazeer; dam line to Wild Thyme a Kuhailan Ajuz for all three just a little different influence in each breeding from the dam, granddam and greatgrandam...Very interesting...
Seriously all, am really so looking forward to meeting you ...just wondering if I'll need to bring along scuba gear...you know flippers, mask, breathing device...???
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Marie-Molly
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Posted - 24 Jul 2007 : 1:40:13 PM
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Hi Egbert,
Looking forward meeting you on the 5th. In the meantime, I'd advice a wet suit!
Marie |
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georgiauk
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Posted - 24 Jul 2007 : 3:57:32 PM
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| Just curious but will anyone be videoing Egbert's seminar? If so I'd be willing to buy a copy |
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katefox1812
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Posted - 24 Jul 2007 : 4:30:59 PM
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Thank you very much Egbert - I thought you might find these 3 generations intriguing! - and as always I learn something new from your analysis!
If you could bear to do one more, MB Naomi (Padrons Kadar x Eevangeline DS) at the same stud is also in foal to Tobago...
Love the names Bia! (I really want to buy the fabulous RL Cotton Candy to breed to him, so I can call the baby 'Toblerone'...)
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Barabia
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Egbert
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Posted - 25 Jul 2007 : 09:34:49 AM
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This could be the most important yet...dam line is definitely Seglawi via Milordka...so masses of courage, beauty, loyalty, love...Now what is interesting is which one will precipitate out...the *Padron or the Menes. My bet is on *Menes-you'll have a bay...more Kuhailan looking but nevertheless more exotic than most and very very athletic. A phenomenal mover who will take awhile to mature but once she/he does...the result will a stunner. Can't wait to hear what is born!
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Perhaps someone out there has wetsuit, mask, snorkel and flippers? Short term loan? Maybe a rowboat? |
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Tahir
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Posted - 29 Jul 2007 : 10:52:29 AM
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We have two boats being "stored" here at the moment Egbert, I will bring one to the seminar for you!!!! Can also provide snorkel, flippers, mask and a swimsuit just in case it's wet and "warm"!!! Sorry will have to fail on the wetsuit though.
Carla, xx.
Edited to add: I forgot to mention that Tahir bint Malika has been scanned in foal to Taj el Nil, I know you said that this would be a good cross many pages ago (thankyou) and we are all so excited!!! |
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Egbert
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Posted - 29 Jul 2007 : 2:47:13 PM
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Ah, Dear Carla, you are a pal! Jane just sent the weather report...seems it should be excellent! What fun...(Had this vision of me walking out to talk to you all in Snorkel, Mask and Flippers....and trying to talk of course!
Do think you are going to have a fabulous result. Promise to post photos? |
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Tahir
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Posted - 29 Jul 2007 : 4:18:48 PM
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Hand on heart, promise to post photos of the resulting baby Egbert. AND the vision of you doing the seminar all kitted out in sea-wear has me laughing my socks off - I will definitely post photos of that, should it happen - haa haa haa!!!
Looking forward to the 5th.
Carla, xx.
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Egbert
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Posted - 30 Jul 2007 : 09:39:42 AM
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You've no idea how much I've envisioned the flippers thing....Well, will bring an umbrella and galoshes on general principal.
What a hoot! |
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LadyB
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Posted - 09 Aug 2007 : 10:31:36 AM
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HoneyB & Gee Gee.. My mare shares the same tail female line as yours, Kuhaylan Ajuz.. (I have only just looked into this.. all very new to me!!)
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/kastanah+bint+talurand
If anyone could give me any trait info typical personality/type info of this line that would be great.. I will let you know if it is true... Would be nice to hear of typical strengths & weaknesses... |
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Tail Female Line....?
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