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Tahir
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 Posted - 04 Nov 2006 : 3:18:20 PM
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Wow Elys, the photos are great, love the two sisters and it's amazing that they have totally different characters. Brit has a lovely outline going over that fence, what an intelligent head and kind eyes.
I am so impressed with how Egbert describes a horse without even seeing it, a true gift. I can't wait to meet you Egbert at Jane's next year, a definite date for my diary.
Elys, yes, please email me and I will send you the photos to post. Many thanks in advance.
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Tahir
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Posted - 04 Nov 2006 : 7:03:02 PM
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Thank you so much Elys, I have emailed you back with some pics, I hope I got them in the right order, ha ha!!!
Carla, xx. |
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Elys
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Posted - 05 Nov 2006 : 12:05:37 AM
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Posting for Carla (Tahir)- these are some gorgeous horses!!
The first is Taj
Second is her now deceased stallion Zeyn, as well as the trotting photo. Just below the photo of Zeyn trotting is Taj's daughter as 2 y/o - Azka el Nil, she is now 8.
Last is Azka's full sister Kyrashara as a 3y/o, she is now 7.
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Tahir
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Posted - 05 Nov 2006 : 01:00:40 AM
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Thank you so much Elys, you got the names/descriptions exactly right, and thank you for saying they are gorgeous (I think so but I am biased!!!)
Carla, xx. |
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Egbert
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Posted - 05 Nov 2006 : 12:26:35 PM
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Elys, I love Brit! One thing you should know about the *Wadduda's is that they come with very very sensitive skin and it could be why he was initially so standoffish.
I love the two sisters, too and think you will find that once you are in charge of Winnsonet (Lucy?), you will find she will come to trust you and be the horse her sister is....When abused-mentally, physically or both- it is very hard for the horse to overcome until it is in an environment that it feels secure, safe and loved...Then miracles can happen.
Carla-your horses are simply wonderful, beautiful and more than live up to their pedigrees looks wise! I grieve with you for Zeyn. What an incredible person he has to have been...The look in his eyes, the intelligence and kindness just radiate in that picture. And he looks to have been a superb athlete as well. An animal psychic once told me that those animals to whom we have a very special place in our hearts, always find a way to come back to us. If so, have a hunch Zeyn is coming back to you soon... |
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Fee
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Posted - 05 Nov 2006 : 2:06:02 PM
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Egbert, you do say the most lovely things! 
Having lost my beautiful TB in March under the most horrific and traumatic circumstance I would LOVE to think she would come back to me one day...maybe through Po 
Maybe that's why I went so far to see her on a feeling AND that she was still there waiting for me even though I delayed and cancelled the visit feeling I was deceiving my girl I'd lost.
It's nice to think and hope for these things...
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Tahir
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Posted - 05 Nov 2006 : 7:34:31 PM
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Thank you all for liking my horses, it's so nice when people say lovely things about them.
Egbert, yes Zeyn was all that you say, and more. He was very special, my husband even loved him, he was heartbroken when we lost him. I really hope he comes back, although I love Taj as much, thankfully he is completely different to Zeyn in looks and temperament. He now resides in Zeyn's stable and paddocks and it so helps that he is grey and much taller. It feels right somehow if that makes sense.
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katefox1812
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Posted - 05 Nov 2006 : 11:25:26 PM
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What a lovely idea, that special horses 'come back' to us!
Maybe my beloved Laddie (General Lee Gold) will 'come back' to me a bit, in some way, through Tobago. They are different in many ways, but - which brings us neatly back to the original topic of this thread - they have the same tail-female line: both Kehailan Dajani!
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Egbert
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Posted - 06 Nov 2006 : 09:22:01 AM
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Hmmm...In the early '60's when I was 16 Mother wanted to expand my view of the world and to that end we went all over Europe for two years, stopping and staying in several places. One was Palma de Mallorca, Spain for 6 months. There, in Portals Nous we rented a small villa for 6 months and after the first few weeks the most charming dog began to raid our garbage can...It was like we had known this dog forever! At the time she would say, 'He sure reminds me of old Mick!' the dog that we had when I was born and travelled from California to Oklahoma to Connecticut and back to California with the family. Mick's favorite duty was as my guard and I've the faintest memories of using him to hoist up on and stand!
When it came time to leave Palma our next door neighbor, begged us to take Traveller-as that is what we named him, because as the island's dogs' fates were pretty bad if permanent homes weren't found...Well, I don't mind telling you I was shocked...there was never any doubt that we would...until, that is I saw Mother's face...I literally got down on my hands and knees and begged her to let Traveller go with us. I promised I'd pay for his passage home, his food, medical-whatever...if it took a lifetime to repay. Leaving him behind was simply unthinkable. Well, the only thing that dog didn't travel on from that time was a submarine! Boats, planes, trains, automobiles, horse and carriage, you name it! Traveller went everywhere with us. When it came time to return to the states...Traveller had a first class cabin on the top deck of the USS Constitution-a huge kennel where I spent most of the time as the crossing was incredibly rough following a hurricane across the Atlantic....then a real honest to heaven TWA jet with Traveller riding in the seat next to me on the flight from NY to California...
Traveller was with me for 16 years and when he passed away I was nearly hysterical with grief...Oh my heavens...the pain of his passing was unrelenting. After about 6 months the opportunity arose that enabled me to buy a horse and began looking around. I'll never forget as long as I live rounding the corner of the seller's home...and there in a small corral was Traveller, in a horse's body-the most incredible nearly black Arabian I'd ever seen. He was for sale very cheap...as he was thought to be insane. Turns out that the old man who bred him was dying and unable to care for the horses so his business partner came out and fed them but was terrified of Trav...so he would beat him back with a long bull whip. Then a young girl came along and bought him started training him under saddle as she wanted a trail horse...but on the third day of his being ridden, as they were passing a driveway, a trucks handbrake broke, flew down the driveway, hitting Trav in the hip and knocking him down with the rider on his back. He then became goofier than ever....He was literally a basket case.
However, for what was obvious to me but no one else, it was like old home week for the two of us. He instantly would calm down upon seeing me. I still had a prepurchase exam done but there was no doubt he was going home with me. And he did...for awhile living up the road at a boarding establishment and a few months later moving home permanently. Coincidence? It was so eerie that even mother, meeting him for the first time...and I'd not said anything..."Honey he sure reminds me of Trav!" I'd actually given him a different name...his registered name was a mouthful....but it was no surprise she felt exactly as I did. Initially we felt it was some sort of amazing coincidence they could be so alike...and then the pet psychic discussed the returning of cherished family pets to the loved ones....
So Fee, Carla, Kate...just keep your eyes open...They may not come back as another horse but they find a way to come back to you. Oh...and Trav? He died a couple of years ago, age 30, but is back yet again, in the body of another horse.... |
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Sheena
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Posted - 06 Nov 2006 : 11:38:11 AM
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Hi Egbert,
I take it we can count you in on Sheena's ever growing fan club
We are over the moon and then some with the results Sheena and Emily have achieved this year. Sheena herself was not easy to breed - and I am extremly thankful to Iona Bowring and Dave and Jean Peck's perserverance with Crystal Sheen who decided herself to take a few years off 'breeding' after having her stunning colt by MA Alishah, Crystal Silver. I have just sent Iona off some up to date photo's and letter of how Sheena has been doing, but as far as I know she never saw her 'Sheen' (silver Fire) line as a performance line!! I hope Sheena has changed her view of this. I love the way you describe her as being of calm demeanor - do you recieve ? I have done an article in there for the November issue - to explain that although she can be it is all a very fine balancing act!!! We have whispered in Sheena's ear's that it would be the done thing if she could take a British National title at some point to keep in with the ancestors LOL Sheena was only the second Arab I had ever had and I was just amazed when I started to research her ancestors how I could look back along her tail female line and at every Grey mare I saw think 'that is Sheena' it is obviously an extremly strong line - but she has taken alot of years to mature to the beauty she is now!!
There now looks as though there is hope of a another couple of Silvern Sceptre offspring ready to come out and make there mark next year - I will back you up 100% in telling people for whatever reason get those horses out there competing - just look what can be achieved!! Even if you have to make hard decisions in order to get them out there!
As for Sheena there are of course some breeding plans in the pipeline for her - it is very difficult to decide who to put her too! I love Judith Evans Toman - and he is my very top choice for her with is Russian and English Connections, and of course Jean is eager to breed her with her American Staliion Dervatiw Gywddion (sp?) but really who knows that the future holds - Egbert, i'd be really interested to hear your thoughts on who you would breed her with??? I'd love the right Stallion - just like wonderful Sceptre - to add his special bit but to have another clone of the very feminine Silver Fire, and a definite Sheen! As yet the immediate plans are for her to spend a few more years in the ridden ring, and we intend to support her to achieve the highest she is capable of - it is all very exciting - and we are currently wishing our lives away to get to next season!
She does have one foal, by Brede Gitano - now a gelding and proving himself more then capable in the ridden ring Silvern Risheen A (Kasper) is with a lady in Devon and is being backed this year - he is a male version of Sheena, and seems to have taken very little from his sire which is interesting.
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What ever your belief,be it reincarnation, or what ever, the thing that comes back to you is LOVE in what ever form, if you love someone or something you WILL it to come back to you, it will never leave because it is the love that dwells inside YOU Oh I am all sloppy this morning, perhaps its because I have my beloved daughter and grandson staying with me and My baby daughter has just reached the grand old age of 40! bless her I have a suprise birthday treat for her tonight do hope I can try to keep the secret going till then, so far she hasnt even had a birthday card from me, ( I told her I bought one but lost it !LOL |
   
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Tahir
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Posted - 06 Nov 2006 : 11:13:15 PM
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Egbert, the two dogs in my life seem very much in-line with your post.
My first dog - "Inca" didn't ever belong to me, she was accidently bred by my then boyfriends mother. Poor "mother" was never on-the-ball, she had 9 children, the family dog was a liver-spotted Dalmation (intelligent??), loved by all but never disciplined, she used to steal everyones dinner and escape every time the back door was opened. Imagine what she was like in-season. The inevitable happened, she had a beautiful litter of pups, 9 in all. They were not Dalmations, they were solid coloured, except one chocolate spotted bitch, the others were black or chocolate with white breasts and small spots on the white, some with white paws, they were adorable. I desperately tried not to fall in love, my parents would not entertain another dog after sadly loosing our spaniel. One of the smallest, shyest black bitches managed to attach herself to me, for some reason I named her "Inca". She would have been thought of as the "runt". When they were 5 weeks old my boyfriend and I went on holiday for a week. We received a very sad phonecall saying that the bitch and most of the pups had died of parvovirus(sp). Only two pups survived, boyfriend refused to tell me who, because they were very sick. We went home immediately to find the spotted (named "Stripe, the spotty pup") and Inca, both small, frail and very, very sick. The vet didn't think they would live more than 12 hours. My boyfriend's sister and I nursed these pups through and they survived, I mean we nursed and cuddled 24/7. Both pups grew to be big strapping dogs, but boyfriend's mother couldn't keep both and couldn't afford the vets fees so one had to go. "Stripe" stayed because she was SO like the original bitch. I cried, begged and pleaded with my parents, but they (quite rightly) felt that keeping a dog was unfair when we all worked full time. Inca went to a fantastic home with a retired couple, it was a loving home for life. I saw her 2 years after she was re-homed and she wet herself when she remembered me, we both cried. The owner couldn't believe it, Inca was so shy she never approached anyone - she was off the lead at the time!!!!
As a child I had always wanted a collie, but it was ingrained into me that collies needed space and stimulation all day and I vowed never to get one unless I could accommodate it. Inca was as close to a collie as you could get, she was totally obedient to me, she did somersaults when I knocked on my boyfriends door and she always "smiled", she only ever did that when it was me.
I got "Inca" back when I moved to this farm, knowing that I'd be at home all day, the search for a collie was on!! (I was 4 months pregnant at the time). So we found "Fen" in an obscure rescue home. She was the first dog I noticed and knew straight away that without a doubt "Fen dog" is "Inca", obedient, faithful, protective - she even smiles and does somersaults like Inca did. We have had so many happy years together but Fen is getting a bit old and arthritic now. I totally refuse to get another dog until Fen is a happy memory, she really is more than "just a dog", she is also very possesive, so another dog is out of the question.
I really don't know if I believe in reincarnation or spirits, but sometimes when I look into the eye of a certain animal, child or person - I think it may be possible.???
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Egbert
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Posted - 07 Nov 2006 : 08:39:02 AM
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Carla,
Well, we are definitely off subject but think Shakespeare said it best in Hamlet, "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." I'd like to think that we have been placed here on earth to learn and we come with friends, guardians of our existence-animal and human who help us make it through to the next plain(s)....and on into eternity. So, how many of us know an animal that does somersaults? Thank you, Carla...! Inca proves yet another reason to simply wonder.
Lynda,
You are much too young for grandchildren! You must have either been a child bride or these are really step grandchildren? Seriously, am looking forward to reading about the surprise!
Sheena,
Big, big fan of Silvern Sheena. I think it has to be remembered with these incredible horses that there are some lines that are extremely showy, excruciatingly intelligent and if raised improperly become accustomed to the idea that they are number one and in charge. Sheena whose basic demeanor SHOULD be very calm, quiet, companionable, sweet...does come from a dam line of stunning show winners. Bearing that in mind the most show winning horses tend to dominate in a herd situation and they can, if not handled properly from birth, dominate humans, or try to. That is what gives them what we call 'attitude' in the show ring over here. This might be looking at something not in the cards, but once she has been bred to that star, whoever he might be, would love to see Sheena shown in hand and see whether or not she might continue the tradition of winning in hand and thereby create a dynasty of in hand AND performance winners. Particularly noting that it will be very important to establish a bond with the baby. To this end, think the best nick for her will be, following the traditions of previous ancestors...to wit- Silver Fire, universally recognized as the most beautiful mare ever bred at Crabbet, a Skowronek sire line stallion. Derivatiw Gwyddion is and has some outstanding Crabbet as well as American and Polish lines that should do magical things with her; Klinta Sultan-have just seen pictures and at 3 he looks so immature, suspect that he will be awesome to behold in a couple of more years and should be an awesome straight Crabbet opportunity if he stays in the UK, with the icing is that his tail female is also Silver Fire, a Hamdani Simri; Ibreez at Georgian Arabians or Hafid Jamil offer outstanding straight Egyptian possibilities as do the Brookes stallions....When you stop and think about it, with Sheena's bloodlines you really have unlimited opportunites/possibilities. But as nice as her career is, you are playing with fire not breeding her asap. This is a mare that should be kept in foal annually. Sheena is at an age that breeding could start proving quite tricky unless kept in foal on a regular basis.
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Tahir
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Posted - 07 Nov 2006 : 09:39:04 AM
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Egbert, totally agree with you that we have gone off subject, very interesting nevertheless.
Lynda, agree with Egbert that you look way too young to have grandchildred, it must be those beautiful horses keeping you young, if not can you please let me into your secret?
Sheena, would love to see Silvern Sheena on the in-hand show circuit, she is really special and would probably knock the socks off the competition - would be fantastic to see her shown with foal at foot at Malvern - just pleeeeease let me know when you plan to do it so I can leave my brood mares at home, ha ha!!!
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Tahir
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Posted - 07 Nov 2006 : 09:54:12 AM
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| Lynda, please let us know what your daughter's surprise was!!! |
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Sheena
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Posted - 07 Nov 2006 : 10:34:26 AM
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Hi Egbert,
You have completly hit the nail on the head with Sheena believing she is number one - I got her in late 1998 by which point she was already accustomed to being boss I feel. Not thst it was all bad as I think she also could have been too much the other way and hence unable to sparkle her own personality in the ring - as I said a fine balancing act seems to work just fine
I am sure there are many that would agree with you regarding Sheena and breeding. The reason I have chosen for her to go on and compete is because I truely feel this is her area to excel in - she is built to be ridden and trust me it was no easy decision to have to let her move away from home and comete as she is. I feel I owe it to her, I know I am 'playing with fire' as you put it, and i didn't want to leave her a maiden till late in life - hence why she has had the one foal. I also tried to cover her the following year with a foal at foot - but she would not take, and she was sent to a VERY experianced stud with no joy. I believe Crystal Sheen was the same and was very difficult if not impossible to breed annually. I will not be leaving it till Sheena is a grand old age to breed from her again I promise. I do however feel it is important for her to compete and see what she can achieve for a number of reasons. Crabbets are not in favour - and we need to prove time and time again they can be best in their chosen field, and look pretty and feminine (they don't have to look like plain cobs!) also on bloodlines alone it would be nice to breed from her, but I feel the basis of breeding today should be more practical as well and therefore it should be proven that Sheena can 'do something practical!' Why do we always leave it to Some responsle stallion owners to prove their stallins can do something. She is too special to leave at home in any breeding barn - it would be lovely to sit down and look at different lines etc, but I hope that I am blessed with time in which to do this, and whilst I have had great fun doing in hand with her as a youngster, this is not where HER pashion lies. She has qualified for UKIAHS, and gained a bronze medal there in hand - which I believe to be exceptional for a high percentage Crabbet mare these days (99.06% to be exact!) She won the only Crabbet class she was entered into in 2005, but we have to be realistic that in the Uk she is never going to beat the 'show' mares that are out there. Of course my dream is that eventually she could breed on one of these. Don't get me wrong, I would love her too, and to prove that she can excel in both fields - but she is not fashionable, and will never achieve the accolades her mother and grandmother did in hand, it is just a different era now. Neverless I will never say never and we will of course give it a crack - I never give up trying and like a challenge
Tahir - I promise that Sheena will come back out on the in hand circuit at some point in a few years - and my preference would be for her to have a foal a foot!! You'll make me start to wish years away now! Thank You for your lovely comments on her - I have always loved her to bits and been completley smitten but it is so nice to know she has some lovely fans out there besides me. XX
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Egbert
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Posted - 07 Nov 2006 : 11:00:22 AM
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Oh oh Sheena, you have just asked the wrong question...Why stallions and not mares make a reputation...Here you go: Lady Wentworth NEVER took out her best mares or even stallions for fear of one thing...something happening over which she had no control. That could so easily happen on a show grounds or en route to the show grounds. AS for Crabbet not being fashionable? Wrong. It used to be a bad word...So BAD that once an editor cut an article of mine when I noted that a world famous breeder who was breeding straight Polish-had a huge percentage of Crabbet in those straight Polish lines! The editor noting, "Oh! He might sell off all of his Arabians if he found out how much Crabbet they have!"
Happily, in the last decade, the attitudes have begun to change to the point many people are asking if there are not more straight Crabbets available!
As for Sheena not being competitive? Mrs. Peck can confirm this, but if you put as much conditioning into Sheena as has been put into the winning mares-she would clean their clocks! American style conditioning, good body building/back building exercises for a sustained period of 3-4 months building up to 30 minutes every day...There would not be many that could eclipse Sheena. The Crabbet groups are very anti in-hand for understandable reasons but if I recall properly Mrs. Peck did very well in the US showing in hand and for a mare of Sheena's quality...don't think you could miss. |
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Posted - 07 Nov 2006 : 11:08:26 AM
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| Also think you couldn't miss, after all the "horse" is noted by the audience, not the judge!! |
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Sheena
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Posted - 07 Nov 2006 : 11:37:00 AM
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Hi Egbert - you are right and I stand corrected, I guess Crabbets are slightly more 'in fashion' then they used to be (although I hate that type of terminiology) I believe that Crabbets are something that should always endure no matter what. I am interested to hear that you had your article cut to remove the word though!!! Although I do often look on some studs and wonder what their faces would be like if they realised the backbone of their studs 'breeding' was Crabbet. I am glad that attitudes have begun to change, but I do think that keeping them at home during this time of positive change would be a big mistake. I think that what the Crabbet Organisation in the UK are trying to achieve is fantastic - to promote Crabbet horses in all spheres as much as possible. Hence why they have now started the In hand classes at Regional Groups, ad this year had their very First Crabbet Show featuring in hand and ridden. I think in the UK in general, and more so in Crabbet circles we have fallen behind in promoting our horses.
IMO Crabbet groups have been anti in hand purely because it has been felt that this was not a field they could succeed in, and the showmanship is not fancied much by 'most' Crabbet owners - hence the call here for more traditional classes, where it really was the HORSE that was judged.
Jean did exceptionally well in the US showing - and with Ambi (Rohara's Ambassador) and Gwid, but not with High, almost straight Crabbets. Although I take what you are saying that it is the training and conditioning methods that could be adopted. And as I said I would love for her to be back out in the ring at some point in the future - I'll let you know when if you promise to come over and Cheer!!
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Egbert
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Posted - 07 Nov 2006 : 12:23:40 PM
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| Well, I do agree it is critical that they are shown but would be more inclined to do it AFTER there are a couple of fillies on the ground! Am off to Santa Barbara folks! See you all Saturday! |
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Kash
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Posted - 07 Nov 2006 : 12:32:27 PM
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Hi Egbert,
Sorry to bother you with another query... but I was wondering who you would recommend as a "husband" for my Russian girl Agonia?
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/agonia2
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Gwidmum
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| HI EGBERT and SHEENA!! I have been addicted to this VERY interesting thread, and couldn't resist putting in my 'two pennith's worth'!! I agree totally with BOTH of you! Sheena, your/our girl is very similar to her dam, Crystal Sheen, who 'ruled the roost' at Paslow Hall! She was a true character, and probably would have been a SENSATIONAL ridden mare herself, given the chance! We used to ride her bareback to and from the field in a head collar, no problem, but she hated the indignity of being lunged to 'get fit'!! However, the couple of times we did show her, at HOCON and the Norfolk/Suffolk Group shows, as an aged mare, her beauty, good confirmation and HER PRESENCE, won the classes for her.....she loved it too! The more she showed the better she showed off, by the Chamionships's Laura could hardly keep up with her! However, as Egbert rightly points out she was SO valuable as a breeding mare it was risky to take her out and Silvern Sheena took 3 years of expensive veterinary care to 'kick start' and finally get in foal, and what a filly she turned out to be, although NOT a glamorous foal , Iona said to us 'give her time'. That is why we were SO fortunate to find Alicia to take her as a headstrong youngster, so we could retain her valuable lines. Bazy Tankersly, of AlMarah fame, had enquired about buying Crystal Sheen or any of her progeny, and it was tempting as we were going to the USA ourselves, but we felt they would be better off here in the UK. 'Sheena', I agree with you about showing her 'in hand'! That World is totally different to when her ancestors won, and the environment and hype needed today for the modern halter horse isnt condusive to success in the Ridden Classes, normally! Amby,and Ruger, being notable exceptions!! When Dave and I bought Silvern Sceptre, 'English' horses were still given a fair chance, in hand, especially if conditioned correctly, and we were extremely careful in choosing his wives to make sure the progeny had a good chance of being successful, in hand!! We have always revered the 'Silver' lines, ever since Grey Warrior, in the 80's, and our luck in obtaining Iona's precious lines, which nicked so well with Sceptre, was not only luck, but a knowledge of their genetic background. What if Lady Wentworth had lived another 50 years? She was already experimenting and adding outside lines to enhance her own idea of Arabian beauty [Skowronek] Dont you think she would have tried an 'El Shaklan' or a Padrons Psyche or a S.E. ....? At that time they were all Desert horses....I think she would. It is SO SAD to read Egbert's story about her article being 'edited'! If people actually figured out how much percentage todays modern show winners have...they would be amazed!! Dave and I never wanted to be 'preservation breeders'!! We bred the horses we liked the look of and they happened to be 'Silver' lines from Crabbet! Our foals were very competitive, in hand, at that time, and isnt it just FAB that they have gone on to be successful performance horses too! The other point to bear in mind is that many people who treasure these lines dont show in halter any more due to the fact that they dont want to get involved in the 'shenanigans' mentioned in other threads, us included, and feel it would be a waste of money and time to try! Nevertheless, when Sheena has finished 'wowing' all her fans under saddle I would be the first person in the queue to say 'let's do the Mare and Foal class at Malvern' PLEASE, PLEASE!!! |
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Posted - 07 Nov 2006 : 7:32:51 PM
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Oh! the suprise backfired, it wasnt much its just that I had asked the resturant to present some prezzys to my daughter at the end of the meal and to bring in a baked alaska at the same time, well it didnt go quiet to plan but never mind we had a good time anyway and she was happy enough god Knows how she is going to get all those prezzys back to Dallas ! Ps I dont look so young when you look up close amazing what surgery will do |
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Tail Female Line....?
