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Taylor
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ZAULTAG
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 Posted - 14 Jan 2006 : 08:32:54 AM
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| thats really good, a lot of them i stick to anyway to be honest and no them so maybe they arent just a myth, i thought aswell you have to let a horse cool down before you drink and give hard feed? one of my horses suffered a Collic so i am just over careful |
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Cate
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Lynda
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Posted - 14 Jan 2006 : 11:11:29 AM
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| Be very, very careful. If considering a change, please discuss it with you vet. |
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Libby Frost
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Micky
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Posted - 14 Jan 2006 : 12:29:46 PM
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Oh my goodnes i think this could be dangerous. A lot of the things spoken about are just not true.
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Taylor
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Posted - 14 Jan 2006 : 12:33:47 PM
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| Well I must admit i was a bit dubious whether it was correct information or not but makes an interesting read! |
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Libby Frost
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Posted - 14 Jan 2006 : 1:42:17 PM
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| i think its a bit dodgy.1,barley does effect them and make em silly we have to examples of, in our yard! 2,Sugar beet fed unsoaked definatly has the potential to cause colic.And to be frank i didnt read any more. |
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Lisa
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Zan
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Posted - 14 Jan 2006 : 7:32:39 PM
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| That is a very dangerous site!!! What rubbish. |
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Jingo
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Posted - 14 Jan 2006 : 7:37:56 PM
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| OMG - I sincerely hope no-one starts feeding sugar beet WITHOUT soaking. As you know I am a NON CEREAL feeder so beware!!!Anyone taking this information seriously could seriously damage their wonderful horse - it could be so dangerous. Quite agree which idiot wrote all this? |
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Cassandra
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Jan 2006 : 10:33:50 PM
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I have read the sugarbeet related research papers and actually yes!! in the experiments it was fed dry up to ( from memory ) 40% of total dietary intake without any ill effects. Obviously water was available.
Personally I still feed it wet - but those are the scientifically proven facts and it is true to say it is a myth that you cannot feed dry sugarbeet to horses.
Also it is true to say that sudden changes in diet are not advisable - so I would not suddenly stop feeding it soaked. |
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Beverly
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Posted - 14 Jan 2006 : 11:11:20 PM
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Anyone who feeds sugar beet dry is nuts !( and thats not pony nuts either)!. It says on the bag SOAK FOR 24 HOURS tell me why on earth would anyone do the opposite the what is stated by the manufacturer !???? Feed dry, 40% dry, with or without water at your own risk,,, and if anything went wrong do you think the owners of "that site" would care? Me thinks if you read the small print 1) these statements were made in 2002, 2) no responsibility is taken for anything printed on their site.
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 15 Jan 2006 : 08:04:59 AM
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I always soak my sugar beet cubes but have fed them "half soaked" once when I forgot to soak them in the morning (I soak them for 12 hours so use the ones from the morning for the evening feed) and they were fine. I also soak them for an hour in very hot water if I have run out and need to get some on the way home from work and they are fine; just remember to put cold water on them so that the pellets aren't really hot when fed. I have seen people feed them dry mixed with the short feed and it is fine. It is only a problem when it is fed to greedy eaters who bolt great mouthfulls of feed and any cubes can get stuck and cause choke.
When I was at a DIY livery yard many years ago there was a cob who occasionally used to choke. His owner just put him down a bucket of cubes and then went home and left him to it. He had been starved as a youngster so was very greedy and we had to have two of us clear his throat, one to hold his tongue and the other to fish the cubes out. Luckily he stood well and the block was always high up but the owner was never there and wouldn't change his feed, so easy just to throw in the cheapest cubes!
I am a biochemist and most of what is on that site I already knew and most of it is fact; you are more likely to cause a colic feeding a bran mash once a week than preveny one. When I lived in Saudi Arabia the only forage the horses ever got was a big bundle of fresh alfafa and they loved it. I wish I could get it here.
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honey
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Posted - 15 Jan 2006 : 09:43:11 AM
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| I have a horse that gets silly on Barley, At the race yard they always let the horses drink straight after exercise if they wish, and never has harm arrived. As for sugar beet when we fed it it was quite often soaked for about 10 hours and fed and never did any harm. its just what people are used to and would say if your horse is used to it then they will be fine. |
    
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Micky
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Posted - 15 Jan 2006 : 12:12:03 PM
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| I'm sure that all over the world there are different ways of feeding. I have just finished a book which states that in Saudi they used to feed their arabs on cooked and mashed locust-now theres a thought! Surely if an animal is brought up on a specific method of feeding, that is what they are used to, and any change could be dangerous. Why is a bran mash now considered not to be the thing to do. Many working animals had a mash on their days off, and survived. Oh for the days of straight feed, and broad bran. |
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nicolanapper
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Posted - 15 Jan 2006 : 3:39:34 PM
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Wow, I think I shall take this with a pinch of salt and carry on with what I have been doing all my "horsey" life, that is soaking beet, not feeding barley to highly strung horses etc.
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Libby Frost
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Posted - 15 Jan 2006 : 6:55:45 PM
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| I agree with Micky oh for the days of stable rugs ,jute rugs ,New Zealkand rugs, bran mashes, etc etc. |
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