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egzotyka
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England
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 Posted - 10 Sep 2005 : 8:45:27 PM
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Again i am a keen reader of how everyone got into horses especially arabians! Well i am still only a novice compared to alot of people even though i have now owned my own arab for 6 fantastic years... it all started off with me never dreaming or even thinking i would ever own my own arab as it didnt seem realistic...i have always been into horses and i have always had my own ever since i can remeber as my mum and older sisters have also always had them.My first encounter with an arab not that i can remember though, was on my sisters 15.2 chestnut mare, i have a picture of he sitting on her bare back in the front garden and i'm no older than 3; she was sold and my mum has always wished they hadnt sold her. Anyway at the age of 12 i had finally out grown my 12.2 welsh B as sad as it was i had to be realistic and move on as much as i didnt want to as i had kown him for 4 years. A freind at a local show then told us of an 4yr old arab gelding for sale, which at the time my mum was more keen on than me, but we saw him and fell in love, an unusual rose grey colour and a very slim frame Kouros was very different to what i ever thought would be like, After alot of trying and a few lessons (I was 12 and he was 4...both as young as each other!) he arrived and he hasnt left me since! Now at the age of 10 and a different shade of grey...Flea bitten, he was joined by my second arab this year in may 2005 by DF Musette...and there will be more in the future  Once you have an arab you cannot have anything else  |
   
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pat day
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Sep 2005 : 10:03:12 PM
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Didn't want an arab, dont like arabs, I wanted a smaller version of my beloved TB, just like my Beech Dale. (I would give everything I have to have her back)
But Taklimakan 'Looked at me' and the rest is history.
I know nothing, I have nothing, but I have the WORLD with my Ffashion and Taklimakan
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LYNDILOU
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Sep 2005 : 08:03:49 AM
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I bred Musette and I KNOW how loving she is, she was the last filly from my stallion Bambbooki before he died and so she is very precious, do you own her now ?? |
   
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LYNDILOU
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egzotyka
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England
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Posted - 11 Sep 2005 : 5:49:56 PM
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Musette is on loan from Carol who i guess brought her from you? With another baby on the way i think carol felt she could do more with somone else for a while, Sounds like she is there baby so not sure if they will ever want to sell her  Yes she is very loving and willing to try new things, already had one outing this year undersaddle which was only for experience but she was brill Look forward to next year for alot more...and maybe the national |
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suneanarab
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Sep 2005 : 10:26:42 AM
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mike....
as a bloodlines feak myself (and by that i mean the research side, not the 'it must have so and so in it's lines' type) i find that having studied them for so long i always seem to go for the ones with the crabbet lines that i love.
do you find this with the se's? not just your own, but those that you see in the ring or adverts? it's just that from what you have said about your breeding program you seem to be after certain thing from certain lines, just like me. when i see a horse i like i always have to go home and look it all up. now i am very critical and have been critisise for being so, but as a breeder i think it's our job to be so. as with us every horse has it's faults and so i am looking for certain things in one horse to counter those in another. for everything i pick it seems that they go back to the same horses. are you getting that to? |
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Mike
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Eire
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Posted - 14 Sep 2005 : 01:04:50 AM
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Hi Suzanne,
Yes I do tend to look for (or expect) particular qualities from different families/damlines especially. My "favourites" I suppose are those families tracing to either Bint Helwa or the various branches tracing to Rodiana, so we are perhaps not so very different in our tastes after all! I am generally speaking far less interested in stallions than in mares. The influence a sire can achieve depends greatly on ownership and breeding opportunities whereas for a mare to produce a number of high quality offspring does I think require some degree of "greatness" Also some families have the knack of being able to produce significant sires. The stallions of course go on to get all the credit, whilst the mares who made their reputations in the first place are lucky to get a mention at all.
One thing however does seem certain, finding a horse with a "good" rather than a "glamourous" pedigree is much harder than it used to be, and breeders who change their breeding programmes rather less frequently than their socks are also an endangered species.
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suneanarab
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Sep 2005 : 11:20:51 AM
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hi mike,
i agree completely with you on the mare point and on the good pedigree verses the glam fashionable one!
our lot are very strong through rodiana. odin has at least 15 crosses to her just through 2 female lines!! i like to know the ins and outs of all my horses pedigrees so that i have a rough idea of what comes from where. i also like to see what blood clicks where and how well. |
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Louisa
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England
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Posted - 15 Sep 2005 : 11:38:49 AM
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Well my love of the arabian came about through the Shanti novels. I just loved the thought of the chestnut arab, four white socks and white face - obviously bloodlines back to Crabbet/Old English - not that I knew that then.
I got my first paid job in 1992 and set about my search for the matching horse. I found him 3 months later, Sire Rafid, Dam Aisha, very unpopular stud but boy did I love that horse! So began my love of the arab, I then went on to own another Crabbet/Old English - Carnival Star, sire Astar Dam Moulton Fiesta another gorgeous boy!
I now have Shesk, Sire Sharm el Sheikh, Dam Rose of Bediya. I wouldn't have another breed even if you paid me. I shall live and die loving my arabs! |
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suneanarab
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Posted - 15 Sep 2005 : 11:56:37 AM
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| i had all those books to. i can't remember how many times i read them! |
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LYNDILOU
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egzotyka
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England
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Posted - 15 Sep 2005 : 9:35:27 PM
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| I read those books too! I loved them and i loved the pic Of 'The Prince of Orange' on the front cover too |
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GHALEEM
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Sep 2005 : 1:43:49 PM
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Watching the Black Stallion and reading the Jinny books first got me into arabs.
I finally met my first arab Mayo when working as a groom. The people that owned him worshipped him and i was given strict instructions on how to care for him. At first Mayo treated me as his slave, he looked down on me and tried to get me in trouble with his owners. He would test me till i screamed at him, doing things like stepping on my feet and fidgeting. Then suddenly we just clicked and i fell in love with him, he was so clever, special and magical. Then came the day i was finally aloud to ride him, OH WOW!!!. I had never felt anything like it, we were floating around the village!. Unfortunately i fell out with the owners and havent seen Mayo since,. But i now have my own beautiful, clever loving arabs and i will never be without out an arab Michelle xxx
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bayley
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Australia
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Posted - 19 Sep 2005 : 4:56:56 PM
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Hi,
Some of my first memories are of the horses at my Grandparents farm, and the words, YOU always send your station mares to a blood horse.
Station horses were of mixed blood working cattle mostly.. and THE Blood horse was an Arabian.
I did ballet for many years, worked hard to be fluid and graceful, and I fell in love with the breed entirely without a doubt the first time I saw an arabian in flight, natural balance, fluid and ever so graceful..freedom and pride, they dance |
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LYNDILOU
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nicolanapper
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England
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Posted - 20 Sep 2005 : 2:57:05 PM
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I started riding at 7. My parents were also non-horsey, but they took to it well, providing refreshments at horse shows, carting horses around the shows etc. I had my first Arab on loan when I was 16. He was grey and called Sancho Sanchez. Apparently he was bred by Deirdre Robinson.
After the birth of my first son, aged 24 I started to ride on of the arab endurance horses that was kept at livery on my parents farm.
A few years later I bought a Trakener (wrong spelling) mare who really knocked my confidence. She had a habit of being ridden very quietly, when suddenly for no reason she would rear and then go up and go over backwards. I sold her on, and bought my Welsh Sec D mare as a yearling. She is now 13 and a darling and she helped give me back my confidence.
Then 8 years ago, I answered an advertisment for a part-time job working on an Arabian Stud Farm. That is when I met the lovely Lynda (Free), I quickly developed this phenomemnon called Arabitis and the rest is history. I now have my 5 year old WSA Charismma gelding (whom we bred outselves) and we now have another due in February. There is no going back now. I would not have any other breed now, apart from my lovely Welsh Sec D mare.
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pinknose
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England
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Posted - 20 Sep 2005 : 5:14:46 PM
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| Glad to hear other people got into Arabs through the Jinny and Shantih books!I didn't come from a horsey background,but started riding at 11 and shortly became a completely pony obsessed teenager.My schoolfriends used to take the mickey out of me for reading pony books all the time but I didn't care-I used to dream day and night of all types of horses and ponies but mainly of owning a dapple grey Arab mare.I even used to write my own stories and draw endless pictures of prancing,snorting Arabs!Then one day a new livery arrived at the riding school and she had Arabs!Needless to say we became friends and I was soon helping her with her horses and later at the arab stud where she worked.It was from going to shows with their horses that I was overwhelmed by the beauty and special presence of these wonderful animals.Then I fell in love with a cheeky,sweet little colt foal called Charlie,and on learning he was for sale proceeded to nag my parents endlessly!Amazingly it worked and in August 1994,as an 18th birthday present and in lieu of a party,my dream came true!(although technically the wrong sex but we'd never have afforded a filly).Although I've only ever done a few shows with Charlie,he's been a perfect all round horse for me and people always comment on his lovely nature and calm temperament for an Arab(!)He does have his moments though!I've also spent 4 years working with TB racehorses,and while that breed will always hold a special place in my heart,they'll never come close to Arabs.I've been very out of touch with the Arab scene since the stud farm closed and I stopped going to shows but now I have transport and have gained a lot of enthusiasm for the breed again through this site.So thanks everyone!I really admire all you experts and there,and think its great that you share your knowledge with everyone so genuinely and helpfully.Its much appreciated,especially by someone like me who seems to live in an arab desert where our spectacular breed is often looked down on.Anyway thats quite enough waffling from me! |
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GHALEEM
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Sep 2005 : 6:19:31 PM
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Hey Pinknose, i LOVED!!! the Jinny books. I used to draw arabs aswell and dream of them. My dream was to own a chestnut arab and ride him on the moors and on the beach - well my dream came true. Michelle xxx
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nicolanapper
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England
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Posted - 21 Sep 2005 : 08:06:49 AM
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Yes, I too loved all the Jinny & Shantih books, in fact I have still got all mine!
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joanna_piana
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Posted - 21 Sep 2005 : 12:49:25 PM
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| I just got a load of old books out of the loft including all of the Shantih ones and have just re read them. They're still good! The original books had a different horse on the cover to the last couple. I loved horses from a very young age, my mother had ponies as a child so she always encouraged me. Got my first pony when I was about 9, he was a black fell pony called Pepper and he had a white star as my first love was always Black Beauty. I didn't really choose to get into Arabs it just kind of happened. As a child I had a beautiful dapple grey Welsh Section B who was like a mini Arab and my next pony was a part bred. Then as an adult I started loaning a nutty Chestnut Arab called Kracker who was bred on Horsey Island. He is over 30 now and retired and after him I loaned a beautiful grey crabbet arab called Dana then I loaned the mare I ended up buying another grey crabbet. I probably wouldn't actually have chosen an Arab if I'd known i was going to buy a horse but once I'd had her on loan and the owner was selling her I had no choice in the matter she was mine! Best decision I have ever made in my life, can't imagine what it would be like without her and would definately have more if I could. Just waiting for that lottery win and there are at least three on the Sales page I would have like a shot. |
      
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pinknose
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Posted - 21 Sep 2005 : 10:33:58 PM
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| Joanna I'd forgotten about the 2 different Jinny/Shantihs!If i remember rightly the older books had a more hairy,liver chestnut version and the later ones were a bit more glam!Me and my friend used to argue over the correct pronunciation of 'Shantih'too!God what a sad child i was! |
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joanna_piana
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Posted - 23 Sep 2005 : 09:21:06 AM
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| Otherway round, the older books had a bright chestnut with thick white blaze and four white socks then later on it was a chunky more liver chestnut. I think the original was definately the true Shantih, how I would have imagined her anyway! |
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SEZ
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England
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Posted - 23 Sep 2005 : 09:42:18 AM
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I'm with you. I really hated the second Jinny I have all the books and will still buy one if I come across it in a charity shop. Any horsey book - I have Black Stallion books, the Jill books, lots by the Pullein-Thompson sisters and some of the Blackbirds books. I am 28 years old and I am not ashamed They are no longer in print and I feel justified in collecting them |
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SEZ
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Posted - 23 Sep 2005 : 09:45:46 AM
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| I think the picture of Gunni's mare on page 3 of the 'crabbet type' link looks like Shantih. |
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egzotyka
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Posted - 23 Sep 2005 : 7:22:26 PM
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| I know that one of the arabs is the Prince of Orange owned by Micheal Harris. he is the one that is being ridden across the moor, he is walking in one and gallopping in another...yes i still have my books too!! |
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