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Porsche
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 Posted - 09 Mar 2005 : 12:44:40 PM
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I have asked this question on a couple of other forums but thought I would ask here too....
Has anyone got any experience of loss of skin pigment and what did you do about it?
I have been told that a copper supplement has worked in some cases......
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paul_exe
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Posted - 09 Mar 2005 : 12:59:34 PM
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Hi Porsche
If you use the search engine on this site, you will find an indepth forum which was on this subject.
Paul
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Porsche
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Posted - 09 Mar 2005 : 1:00:41 PM
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| Many thanks |
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templars
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Posted - 09 Mar 2005 : 1:01:24 PM
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| We had an "outbreak" of it last year - first time ever. We fed seaweed and copper supplement and it cleared up in weeks. (We used Sheep copper supplement - it was cheaper!) |
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Mike
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Posted - 09 Mar 2005 : 1:11:05 PM
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Most cases of pigment loss, can be cleared up or at least greatly improved by the use of a copper supplement. Copper deficiency in mares has also been linked to their resulting foals having iffy legs. So it seems well worth making sure that broodmares have adequate copper in their diets.
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Porsche
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Posted - 09 Mar 2005 : 1:11:51 PM
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Have searched but can't find the thread 
templars: did you manage to clear it completely?
I have also had a few people worry me about feeding a copper supp saying if they don't need it all sorts of horrific things can happen |
Some people are like a Slinky ... not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs.
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Vera
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Posted - 09 Mar 2005 : 1:50:56 PM
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Arabs have a bit of a predisposition to depigmentation or sometimes called 'pinky syndrome'. The cause isn't really known but it is thought to be caused by a copper defiency but not really proven.
You could get some blood tests done. You put him on a high copper supplement like Copperplex – not to be confused with Copper-plex, they are two different products. Speak to Silv, who posts on here as she has had great success with it. Last year Dennis had a small pink spot appear on his muzzle and another by his eye and it disappeared within 10 days of feeding Copperplex.
Have a look at this website and type in Copperplex into the search bar, before and after pictures of Silv’s very handsome gelding Taz show just how good this product is. It’s £24 a tub.
http://www.hhss.biz/store/erol.html
The text reads….
Copperplex
MINERAL DEFICIENCY??
The levels of copper found in many pastures, hay and common feedstuffs is often too low to meet daily requirements.
Copperplex has been formulated to help prevent such imbalances. Lack of copper in the diet can result in impaired muscle function, anaemia, coat depigmentation and developmental orthopaedic disease.
Copperplex is a unique combination of highly available organic and inorganic copper sources, allowing for highly efficient absorption and utilisation.
Copper deficiency can result in:
-Developmental orthopaedic disease (DOD)
-Impaired muscle function, which may restrict freedom of movement
-A compromised immune system
-Reduced synthesis of haemoglobin, which may result in anaemia
-Progressive coat depigmentation and decolouration (pale circular patches, white rings around the eyes.)
Copperplex is a unique combination of organic copper proteinates and inorganic copper sulphate providing a combination of highly available copper sources. Recent research has shown that a mixture of organic and inorganic compounds results in the greatest efficiency of copper absorbtion and correction of any deficiency.
Copperplex contains Zinc that helps promote enzyme activation and skin, hair, blood and bone development. By using a combination of organic and inorganic zinc copperplex helps ensure the vital zinc : copper ratio is maintained.
Copperplex also contains vitamin E (an anti-oxidant promoting reproductive efficiency and maintenance of muscular integrity,) and selenium (at very low levels using bio available seleno-yeast). Selenium is an anti-oxidant that works alongside vitamin E in maintaining muscle cell membrane integrity
Uses:
· For horses in training to maintain freedom of movement
· For broodmares and youngstock to maintain healthy growth and development
· For all horses and ponies in copper deficient areas where any of the indications may arise such as coat depigmentation
· Arabian horses that are particularly prone to coat depigmentation due to lack of sufficient copper.
Vera and Dennis
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Porsche
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Posted - 09 Mar 2005 : 3:03:20 PM
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Thanks
Vera: Its Dennis's 3/4 brother that I am hopefully buying |
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silv
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Posted - 09 Mar 2005 : 3:21:56 PM
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Thanks Vera
Deffo recommend copperplex.....so quick too! |
   
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templars
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Posted - 09 Mar 2005 : 3:26:57 PM
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It cleared it completely in 2 of the 3 affected. The remaining one has very light areas that you really need to look for cos they're not really obvious. He's still on copper and they are improving.
The other 2 though cleared up in about 10 days - it was amazing to watch and the black pigment became even darker.
My husband, who has farmed for over 30 years, says it can affect the outcome of the sex in cattle breeding. Low copper = boys, copper supplement = girls. Don't know if it's the same for horses but since I moved up here (Lancashire - a copper deficient area), I've bred a lot more colts than fillies! Needless to say, I make sure everyone has accesss to mineral licks now. |
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Porsche
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Posted - 09 Mar 2005 : 3:29:45 PM
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Wow Silv - thats a transformation
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RIP Fuzzy Bear...Angela RIP......Legacy 1day old...............La Carrera.................Aisa and Bruce |
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Vera
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Posted - 09 Mar 2005 : 4:00:47 PM
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You're getting Sebastian!!!!!!!!! He's LOVELY  . I've met him a couple of times and he's just as lovely as my Dennis well maybe Dennis is a littlebit more lovely LOL   (slightly biased). The thing with these boys are their fantastic temperaments, Dave as well - did you meet Dave too? He is the younger brother by Crystal Silver. I absolutely adore my boy and he knows it , he is sooooo laid back about just about everything, then, out of the blue, he will flip his tail over his back and could rival Vody in my eyes ..... Ok well nearly  .
You never know, maybe we should have a go at pairs.....
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Porsche
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Posted - 09 Mar 2005 : 4:13:28 PM
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Yes - Sebastian
Going to see him on the 20th - my mare is due to foal this weekend so can't get there any sooner
So you've met him? What is he like
Pairs sounds good
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Some people are like a Slinky ... not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs.
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egzotyka
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Posted - 09 Mar 2005 : 4:20:01 PM
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| My gelding lost his pigment around his eyes last summer, i was told to wait till the winter as it would go but still got it and getting worse, he has lost it on his nose and on his lips now. i was also told a copper difficiency but did not work |
   
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silv
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Posted - 09 Mar 2005 : 8:00:44 PM
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Apparently top spec,which I use,has the same amount of copper as copperplex but does nothing for taz as he still gets pink(I leave it in winter and just clear him up for summer)so it must be a different version of copper in copperplex......too technical for me
Just to add that taz also loses pigment under tail(yes,his bottom!),his dock and........you know,that other bit!LOL! |
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SarahA
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Posted - 11 Mar 2005 : 1:14:21 PM
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Hi
I dont know if this will help or not, but my friends chestnut gelding had pigment loss around his eyes, she was told that seaweed was the best thing for it, she tried it and the problem cleared up, and as far as i am aware it has never returned.
Anyway its worth a try and its as cheap as chips
Good luck anyway!!
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