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tillyben1
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England

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Posted - 15 Mar 2009 :  10:30:46 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add tillyben1 to your friends list Send tillyben1 a Private Message
Hi
I have a problem, the house next door to me has been empty for over 2 years and in the last couple of months has been to let with an estate agents.well on friday the 13th we got new neighbours i think they are gypsys i have heard there is quite a large family not that far from here well near the town centre. i was being nosey like you do lol and noticed they had a pick up truck, the back of it was full of there stuff but nothing had been packed they had just thrown the quilts,coats,shoes in the back of it,plus it was raining so everything was wet through. i thought this was odd to begin with. they look quite rough and dont care attitude. first problem is they have pinched our car parking space. the streets where i live are one way, so everybody has there own parking space, well made there own space, and are quite happy. they have come and just taken ours. my partner asked them today could they please move as there isn't room for a van on this side of street, and that we have been here 7 years and that they have taken our space. the lady quite abrutly said no there not moving and shut door in my OH face. this van is full of junk that another van brought, and loaded it on my new neighbours van, so when i look out of my window all i see is junk piled up. last night they were arguing at 2am throwing stuff against walls,swearing screaming. i feel scared in my own home the other neighbour also feels the same about these new neighbours. what can i do im ringing my landlord saying im not happy and im looking for somewhere else to live i cant stay here living in fear.
sorry its a long post just need advice.

Edited by - tillyben1 on 15 Mar 2009 10:35:53 PM
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avanti
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England
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  06:58:50 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add avanti to your friends list Send avanti a Private Message
Hi, what a horrible situation to be in, keep a diary and note everything in it, time date and what they are doing, then take it to the police and your landlord, hope you don't have to move,

Mandy
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LYNDILOU
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  09:09:59 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message
oh dear, my advice move as quickly as you can !


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precious
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England
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  09:14:47 AM  Show Profile  Click to see precious's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add precious to your friends list Send precious a Private Message
Good advice mandy!, log it and report it if you dont want to have to move you could even complain the the agent that let the house.
If your not too bothered move cos it could get worse when they relise someone has reported them x

Good luck


Gemma Thompson
Birmingham West Midlands
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DIZZY MIZZY
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England
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  09:42:09 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DIZZY MIZZY to your friends list Send DIZZY MIZZY a Private Message
Hi Tillyben,
I know how you feel been there.I wouldn't waste your time with the police they are useless.(unless of course they are breaking the law.)If you ring them about noise all they will give you is a crime number.
Good landlords can help but our neighbour is a private let and all he is interested in is the money.
The best people for noise is the council but it is very longwinded.Keep a log of dates,times,what noise and how long.This is the first thing they ask for then push them to install monitoring equipment.
We were lucky our neighbours eventually left,but now got new problem a screaming baby.HELP!!!!
Good luck
Andrea.
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Kazzy
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England
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  10:21:18 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kazzy to your friends list Send Kazzy a Private Message
bain of my life neigbhours are

If you dont own the house (even though you shouldnt have to) then up and leave. Its the only solution. Reporting them and confrtonting them will only make the matter worse. They sound a right bunch of blerts!!! And the last thing you need is to be confronting them.

I cant stand people that go out of there way to make life miserable for everybody else. They all need to be put on a desert island somewhere and left to their own devices.

Good luck.

Janet



Sunny Cheshire
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Montikka
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  1:22:14 PM  Show Profile  Send Montikka an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add Montikka to your friends list Send Montikka a Private Message
Yes have to agree - it shouldn't be the case, but leaving is probably your best option. Remember the innocent don't get help in our society

Try not to feel afraid though and I'd avoid confronting them. If it got out of hand you'd probably be arrested!!

How awful, it really isn't right that YOU should move. x


Louise, Warwickshire
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tillyben1
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England
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  6:52:45 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tillyben1 to your friends list Send tillyben1 a Private Message
thanks everybody i rang my landlord today he said he will see what he can do as his brother is a policeman and he is quite up on tenants and stuff,i also rang the estate agents to tell them how i feel and the neighbour on the other side of these plonkers also rang. they couldnt apoligise enough saying they will have a word with them about moving there van.well the estate agents actually came out to see them, dont know what was said but the van is still outside in front of my house in front of window.so they havent listened have they. this is beyond a joke, i think they are doing this on purpose now. im going to find it hard to get another house, as i have 2 dogs one being a boxer and everyone seems to think they wreck your house.i really dont know what to do i feel scared i think they know it was me who reported them.

Edited by - tillyben1 on 16 Mar 2009 6:54:15 PM
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Montikka
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  7:11:50 PM  Show Profile  Send Montikka an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add Montikka to your friends list Send Montikka a Private Message
Oh dear, this all seems so predictable: they get spoken to, and still DON'T move their van. They know their rights and ***k everyone else.

I don't like to say it - but I don't think you'll win this one, which is why I reckoned moving is your best option.

On the plus side, you have your other neighbours' support - so at least you are not alone; try not to feel frightened, they don't know who reported them.

Renting with dogs/children is problematic, but sometimes you can get a better deal with an unfurnished place.

Really sorry about this nightmare you're having, but I don't think you have to hurry away, it's unlikely these 'people' will harm you, they will just sit-it-out until you go. So try not to get into any confrontations with them and slowly work out a way to find a new home.

It's actually making me very angry that they can do this to you!



Louise, Warwickshire
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dinkidoo
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  8:58:00 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dinkidoo to your friends list Send dinkidoo a Private Message
Oh how awful what a nightmare for you, it makes my blood boil idiots like this. I had an incident outside my house last night, a group of 7 lads sat on the bonnet of my landrover. I was furious really angry and told them to move on, they argued with me but i didn't raise my voice or anything just told them to move then got in my car and when they didn't move i slowly drove at them until they had to move. My husband then listened to them talking loudly about what they were going to do to my car with me in it. They waited 15 mins plotting how they would smash my windows etc... My husband got his baseball bat ready to go and protect me when i pulled up as i had only gone for petrol and hadn't got my phone so he couldn't pre-warn me. To be honest they wouldn't have fared well against my hubby but then it would have been us then in the courts against them. I usually try to reason with people but they were so arrogant i could have cheerfully whacked them myself. Anyway they disappeared a few mins before i came back and then we spent all night listening for every bump outside imagining they were wrecking our car. I wish we could move from here but unfortunately we bought it in real error not knowing how awful it was around this area, if we were renting we would have moved within the first week.
However as you've been there 7 years and these people seem rough, maybe they will move on again soon. I would keep a low profile and try not to let them rile you as they will love that. Give yourself a time period say a month and if no improvement in that time then move. Also keep an eye on who is living there in case rent is paid by dss and report them if there are people there that shouldn't be. Is the van taxed? If not report that too. I don't know what society is coming to its really awful when there are so many horrid people about. Hey just a thought try being as bad as them and invest in some heavy metal and play it at full blast, maybe you could drive them out first Good luck i hope it improves soon.

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tillyben1
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England
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  11:15:58 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tillyben1 to your friends list Send tillyben1 a Private Message
thanks everyone, yes the van is taxed i had a sneaky look i hope they just do a quick flit and go and we never see them again, they must plan on staying they have put a washing line up. i need to take more pictures.im dreading tommorrow with it being st patricks day as the man is irish i hope i dont end up ith a street full of gypsies.all drinking having a party and arguing again.i feel i need to fight to stay here. but scared of what damage they could do especially to the car. and i cant stay here with that van like that, as we will have no where to park, when the neighbours over the road come back from holiday.i will keep you all posted on how things turn out.
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angelarab
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Wales
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Posted - 17 Mar 2009 :  12:10:44 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angelarab to your friends list Send angelarab a Private Message
Hope today goes ok with no hassles, about the tax disc you say it's taxed but does it match up with the van reg? I knew of a family who had one valid paid for disc but used to swop it around the cars they were using.

Really feel for you i have been really scared in the past by the flat above me, they even flung a fish tank over the balcony one night, could of been lethal.

"Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened."
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MinHe
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England
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Posted - 17 Mar 2009 :  7:33:48 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MinHe to your friends list Send MinHe a Private Message
Contact the Environmental Health Department at your local Council. They are more able to do something. Get a contact name and email/phone details so you can get in touch ASAP in necessary.

Do you have a digital camera? If so, set it up so it records date and time on every frame you record, and snap any anti-social behaviour on their part. Ditto if you have a video phone. When you have a few instances of unacceptable carryings-on, email/send to your EH contact. They should get off their arse and do something for you.

Quick note - these folk are probably tinkers rather than gypsies. Gypsies are an ethnic group (so you have to be careful), tinkers are itinerant Irish petty criminals and not recognised as an ethnic or cultural group. "Respectable" Irish folk don't like them any more than we do, as they behave exactly the same way over there as they do over here! Tinkers are also heavily involved in dog-fighting, so keep an eye on your boxer especially.

Keren
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MinHe
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England
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Posted - 17 Mar 2009 :  10:28:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MinHe to your friends list Send MinHe a Private Message
Contact the Environmental Health Department at your local Council. They are more able to do something. Get a contact name and email/phone details so you can get in touch ASAP in necessary.

Do you have a digital camera? If so, set it up so it records date and time on every frame you record, and snap any anti-social behaviour on their part. Ditto if you have a video phone. When you have a few instances of unacceptable carryings-on, email/send to your EH contact. They should get off their arse and do something for you.

Quick note - these folk are probably tinkers rather than gypsies. Gypsies are an ethnic group (so you have to be careful), tinkers are itinerant Irish petty criminals and not recognised as an ethnic or cultural group. "Respectable" Irish folk don't like them any more than we do, as they behave exactly the same way over there as they do over here! Tinkers are also heavily involved in dog-fighting, so keep an eye on your boxer especially.

Keren
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