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DenmoorStud
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 Posted - 07 Feb 2009 : 10:51:55 AM
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Where are you ? we need you to come forward to ride these Sport Arabians,
Anglos and Partbreds we are busy breeding. Start posting, this could be your chance to become another Evie.
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Miska
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Feb 2009 : 10:58:09 AM
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What a lovely opportunity for someone!  |
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loulou
Silver Member
England
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Posted - 07 Feb 2009 : 11:21:41 AM
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Hi Denmore
My daughter, is 15 and last year did quite well with our pure bred, Ben Rajah qualifying for the Midland Group Young Rider Champs at Malvern (which unfortunately we were unable to attend) - she's very focused and dedicated and would happily love to ride for other people's which is a true ambition of hers! I've told her to get out and about this season at as many shows that we can manage and hopefully someone will talent scout her 
If you're ever in need of a talented young rider then feel free to ask peeps!!
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moatside
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Cryapakah
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DenmoorStud
Gold Member
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Posted - 07 Feb 2009 : 1:16:31 PM
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| Showing, is I grant you a useful part of a horses education, but we breeders need our horses to be out competing in the disciplines, Dressage, Showjumping and Xcountry culminating in Eventing, the forte of the Sport Horse with infusions of Arabian blood. Keep Posting! you are our future |
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weirton
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Posted - 07 Feb 2009 : 1:57:46 PM
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There seems to be a very limited number of young riders available in all disciplines, hence the introduction of the Midland Young Riders classes. A great opportunity to be taken advantage of.
There is no reason why a show horse can't do everything else as well as has been proved time and time again. I know he wasn't an Arab-bred horse but just remember Lucky Strike, From top show hack to top jumper.
We mustn't become blinkered and wrongly assume that eventing is the be all and end all. Showjumpimg, dressage, racing, polo, endurance and ridden showing etc. are all equally important and the real art is finding the right sphere for the horse and not make the horse fit your favourite one. After all not all hundred metre runners would make good pole vaulters. |
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DenmoorStud
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Posted - 07 Feb 2009 : 2:26:08 PM
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| Could I ask how much one would have to pay for a top show horse, and how many ex show horses have gone on to compete at high level in the disciplines. The point I was trying to express is that eventers have to be able to compete in all the disciplines. It was not my intention to have a pop at showing. If we are to open up the equine market for our breeders we must look at the big picture. |
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DenmoorStud
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Posted - 07 Feb 2009 : 2:30:16 PM
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We need young riders to help us achieve this, it demands focus and determination, and support from parents, relatives
and friends. please would young riders keep posting |
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weirton
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Posted - 07 Feb 2009 : 3:00:49 PM
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As 3 and 4 yr.olds I doubt there would be very much difference in the price generally although there will always be some that go for silly money. As to numbers, I don't keep those sort of records but there are certainly many more than you would imagine including British National Champion Tamarillo (of course) If buyers are prejudiced many in the past have been sold without their AHS papers and many Part-breds are not registered with the AHS anyway.
Your point about eventers being superior because they compete in three disciplines ignores the fact that they are competing at a lower level than the purist dressage and showjumping competitors.
Of course the horse world needs young riders and certainly come on here and make yourselves known but they should come from all disciplines. there may be a talent there that has yet to come to the fore. |
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Cryapakah
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Posted - 07 Feb 2009 : 3:14:56 PM
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weirton
Eventing is a bit of everything! Which makes it more fun because its a bit of it all rather than all of it!
I can't be compared to Evie...She won't read my map if she thinks I may be a bit of competition! |
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moatside
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weirton
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Posted - 07 Feb 2009 : 4:50:55 PM
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Hi Moatside , Couldn't agree more no one discipline excludes another.
Have fun and do whatever you and your horse are capable of and ENJOY. |
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nn
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England
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Posted - 07 Feb 2009 : 5:20:55 PM
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Mines sat i front of the TV watching Gossip Girl!!!!!!!
What happened to the free junior membership that the AHS ran last year?
That must be a good way to get them on board?
There must be loads of kids out and about on arabs,just getting on with it! |
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templars
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England
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Posted - 07 Feb 2009 : 5:40:55 PM
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Why doesn't the AHS tap in to Pony Club. You'd be amazed how many young riders are competing (in all the disciplines) on ponies and horses with Arab breeding.
So often though, the Arabian breeding is seen as something to be ashamed of and we need to change that perception.
Why can't the AHS offer rosettes to highest placed horse/pony registered with the AHS? They could offer them at Area competitions or the Pony Club Championships. Believe me, there are lots out there.
Why not tap in to BSJA, BD and BE - all these societies have specialist young rider sections and I KNOW there are loads and loads of young riders competing on horses that have Arabian breeding but they just don't see the need to shout about it.
ps don't want to start comparing one discipline against another but it's wrong to say that eventing competes at a "lower level" of show jumping and dressage than the pure disciplines - they don't. The movements and criteria for dressage are just the same as for Preliminary, Novice and Elementary dressage. The heights and spread for showjumping are just the same as the comparative classes in pure show jumping. The only difference is the speed - eventers are trained to jump at a set speed, not against the clock. From personal experience, it's much easier to get a higher dressage result in pure dressage than it is in eventing dressage
and this will really put the cat amongst the pigeons but a horse trained for dressage will not necessarily do well in the show ring because some judges haven't been trained for dressage and it's pitiful to watch a well trained horse have to deal with a rider who has no idea about the correct aids. Throwing the reins towards the horses ears is not the aid for canter!!!!!! Showing does not prepare a ridden horse for performance work. |
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Cryapakah
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templars
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Posted - 07 Feb 2009 : 6:14:18 PM
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I know!!
We compete in Area 4 and we know of at least 3 pure breds and goodness knows how many part breds.
A lot of them don't realise the importance of promoting the breeding. We speak to any parent of a young rider on a horse with Arabian breeding and literally beg them to shout about it's breeding. Nearly 100% of them say - he/she has an AHS passport but they don't bother much! I ask if they've changed ownership - they say no. I let them know about this site (believe it or not, I have little pieces of paper already printed out with the web address on) and I tell them about the performance schemes and I give them the contact details of the regional groups.
There is a ready source of young riders out there, all we have to do is to open up the channels of communication. |
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DenmoorStud
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Posted - 07 Feb 2009 : 6:44:30 PM
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I had the privilege of speaking with Dr. June Alexander one of the greatest supporters of Arabians and Arab crosses, when I asked her how best to promote Arabian blood she replied, go out to all the Pony Clubs, if each of us undertook
to visit one Pony Club, we might well start to effect change.
I have to congratulate you Templars on being such good ambassadors for the breed. I do feel there are many unsung heros out there.
Note to Parents if your children are retisent to post do so on their behalf. |
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weirton
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Posted - 07 Feb 2009 : 7:02:51 PM
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Sorry Templars but I think we have our wires crossed . The show jumping phase at international events doesn't compare with international showjumping with regard to height, spread or related distances and in dressage I wasn't meaning prelim, novice and elementary level but Prix st George etc.
I don't think any discipline is better or worse than another, just different.
I do agree about the way of going of a dressage trained horse and a show horse, totally different but most show riders would take offence at the 'throwing the reins at the ears' comment. There are good and, bad riders in every sphere, dressage included, but that's life unfortunately
We've had an Anglo stallion who won in-hand (BNC),in ridden showing and who went on to compete very successfully in open dressage competions. Also another Anglo who competed as a riding horse and also won in affiliated showjumping. We are not alone in having horses who can cross the divides. |
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 07 Feb 2009 : 8:35:14 PM
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Have to be careful though - while I was away my backed but green Anglo mare had session 1 with our local Eventing Protege - this girl has expensive horses and rides bought for her at events, peole offering her PN types to bring on for a season.... Session 1 (supervised by my mum) perfection
Session 2 - 6mins in girl on floor, horse galloping about, trailing tack, foaming with sweat etc and very stressed
I decided she was not to ride her again - an unnescessary decision as it happened as she was then too scared to get back on her - not as talented as everyone thought
The back up needs to be there, as does some natural feel for horses that are not yet established.
I still maintain the best WH jockeys are the real riders of the future
And horses can do both - my neighbour has now got her own mare through 3 seasons BE, and does all the county and high end WH and hunter classes. She looks well enough to be truly fit in the showring, and fit enough to never go over time Eventing. It's hard but it's possible folks.
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kizzy
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Posted - 07 Feb 2009 : 8:39:59 PM
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oh i so wish there was such opportunities in my area. I competed my arab at pony club and affiliated showjumping as a teenager. I dearly wish to work with horses, and the past 2 years horseless has been awful! Before pursuing a career in the equine industry I wish to get a good degree. Unfortunately this means i do not have the time or financial means to own a horse throughout my degree. Its very difficult i think for young riders unless from a very privileged background, or one where their parents support a desire to work with horses.
Anyhoo if anyone is looking for help with horses in Aberdeen area, I would be thrilled to help out.
p.s. pony club is a great place to promote arabs. My little mare got a lot of attention, and many people thought I was mad buying an arab to event, that was untill they saw her go!
my arab (now gone) jumping at home :)
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NUTTER
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Posted - 08 Feb 2009 : 1:56:06 PM
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Where are you Denmoorestud ?:
My daughter has lost all enthusiasm sadly due to the fact that there are no youngsters 16 yrs in our area for her to ride with or go to competitions with or who she knows to meet up with once there....
Sad i think.. also with us being on our own she gets fed up with me !! i apparently rub her up the wrong way.. mother daughter clashing !!
I do think less then ever before youngsters are sticking with it..
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nn
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Posted - 08 Feb 2009 : 4:59:49 PM
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Nutter you are not the only one who rubs there junior up the wrong way!
Mine is now banded from speaking to any of us until she gets back to the wagon after her dressage test as we are always to blame if it isn't 100%.
Its not you, its daughters!!!!!!!!
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