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Mrs Vlacq
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Wales
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Posted - 12 Feb 2009 :  10:17:33 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrs Vlacq to your friends list Send Mrs Vlacq a Private Message
I got one with a dash of ID - he's homebred, by 1st cross Anglo stallion, out of ID / Conne mare.
He's a true MW hunter and my teenage years competition horse. He's a veteran now (which means no galloping in his show - no galloping???? He's a hunter!!!!). Short Cannons and quality about him, clean limbs even now - ace horse, love him lots!!!


- V Khazad - V Calacirya & V Sulime - Quarida(L) - V Boogie Knights - V Hamra Tofiq
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BabsR
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England
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Posted - 13 Feb 2009 :  1:41:43 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BabsR to your friends list Send BabsR a Private Message
Denmore.....was there any constuctive discussion at the Sub Committee Premium Scheme meeting??

Babs

www.SunrayAngloArabianStud.co.uk

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alistair leslie
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England
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Posted - 13 Feb 2009 :  2:31:53 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alistair leslie to your friends list Send alistair leslie a Private Message

Sorry just saw Denmoor's question

When I visit a county show and the English Hunter class is progress I can spend ages just looking at the fluid and substantial mares who are so collected, balanced and bold without any hot temperament
One also sees these types out hunting and although they may be thorobred seem much more calm and heavier than what one normally associates with the name .ie scatty racehorses.
Looking at the long tradition of these lines (look at a Munnings painting) and it did seem they were the perfect partner for an arab stallion
Maybe it is a sport horses but I would suggest the term general purpose.
Just an opinion which could be a way of developing a new market and pay some bills.



blue moon
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BabsR
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England
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Posted - 13 Feb 2009 :  2:47:43 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BabsR to your friends list Send BabsR a Private Message
Thoroughbreds are not scatty!!.....Arabs are not scatty!!....it is the SCATTY folk who train them, that MAKE them scatty.

Give me a highly intelligent Thoroughbred or Arab, most preferably the combimation of the two..an ANGLO ARAB who can do ANY job asked of them, with patience, kindness and understanding....no short cut, quick fix for this amiable equine, for he/she will surely rebel!!

Babs

www.SunrayAngloArabianStud.co.uk



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nn
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England
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Posted - 13 Feb 2009 :  3:58:58 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nn to your friends list Send nn a Private Message
Alsiter been there and done that!!!!!!

The TB mares that we have always used have been the national hunt stamp, these are heavier than the flat horses and produce cracking anglo arabs.

The older bloodlines i am sure Babs will agree had more substance than a lot of the modern ones.

Get a good strong AA and you can cross it with anything to get a sports horse.

I have a huge chunky colt in the field out of my sunray bred AA by an oldenburg. Not my first choice of stallion but that is another story!!!!!

However he is going to be a super hunter!

Nicky

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alistair leslie
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England
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Posted - 13 Feb 2009 :  6:19:46 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alistair leslie to your friends list Send alistair leslie a Private Message

sounds good,
did'nt mean to slight T/b's should have had " "
See our experience with Padma
on the sales page to see what I mean
Rider is 5(


blue moon
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BabsR
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England
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Posted - 13 Feb 2009 :  7:13:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BabsR to your friends list Send BabsR a Private Message
Nickie...Did not know you had a Sunray Bred mare Who is she ??

Babs

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BabsR
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Posted - 13 Feb 2009 :  7:33:52 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BabsR to your friends list Send BabsR a Private Message
Nickie.....Methinks I have sussed it Is your Sunray Bred Mare
Lady Arabella AASB ?? her dam is Wrenthorpe Rhapsody (Annie) who is sired by Sunray Scelebrity and out of Sunray Sapphire (out of BNC. Sunray Seranata) Yes remember her well, good strong Anglo

Wrenthorpe Rhapsody is full blood sister to Tony`s 16.2hh Grey, Wrenthorpe Romeo, whom we own...Tony`s pleasure riding horse, now 15 years old.

Babs

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nn
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England
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Posted - 13 Feb 2009 :  9:19:15 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nn to your friends list Send nn a Private Message
Babs/ Yep thats the one!!!!!

She had a colt by FCS Tornado (oldenburg) in 2007.

Filly by gemini last year and she is in foal to Ranger for this year!

Then we will put her back to Gemini as i am desperate for an anglo colt from her.The 2007 should have been a Gemini!

She is one of only two anglo mares in the country graded into the main trakehnr stud book!

Small hunter stamp with a deep body.

No bother, lives out or in she just likes to be fed!!

Will email you a picture of her and the kids!

Nicky

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weirton
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Posted - 13 Feb 2009 :  10:00:46 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add weirton to your friends list Send weirton a Private Message

Sorry to but in on this but would it be possible for you to put a picture on here, Nicky so that we can all appreciate your mare, please?

Jean

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lisa rachel
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Wales
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Posted - 13 Feb 2009 :  10:46:27 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lisa rachel to your friends list Send lisa rachel a Private Message
Exactly right Babs R I must confess that pure bred Arabs are the horses of my heart, but are basically all tbs are pba's anyway. But yes I agree neither is scatty just very very intelligent, sensitive and proud. The most enjoyable and rewarding horses to work with I just LOVE them. Once they consider you a friend it seems like there is nothing that they won't do for you. Not a horse for an impatient, foolish or domineering person though..... !

lisa
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nn
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England
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Posted - 14 Feb 2009 :  10:33:35 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nn to your friends list Send nn a Private Message
jean
i will try to put a picture on, but not quite worked that out yet!!!!!

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BabsR
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Posted - 14 Feb 2009 :  12:41:46 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BabsR to your friends list Send BabsR a Private Message
Nickie, Jean, Hi Have found pics for your interest



Lady Arabella (AASB) as a foal with her Dam Wrenthorpe Rhapsody, (sired by Sunray Scelebrity) and out of Sunray Sapphire, pictured below as a yearling and at 18 years old. The pic above right, is Lady Arabella when she was graded into the Trakhener Main Stud Book



Lady Arabella is by HIS Super Premium stallion State Diplomacy (GSB)

P.S. Have to say I prefer Arabellas Dam and Grand Dam...being critical but think they have better limbs and topline. Sorry Nickie MO only

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Edited by - BabsR on 24 Feb 2009 6:39:54 PM
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weirton
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Posted - 14 Feb 2009 :  4:37:32 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add weirton to your friends list Send weirton a Private Message

Interesting, thanks for the pics.

Jean

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nn
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England
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Posted - 14 Feb 2009 :  4:45:22 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nn to your friends list Send nn a Private Message
Thanks for the pictures.

The one of Bella at her grading is not the best!She had been very ill all summer!

She had nearly died foaling and her topline took a battering, she pulled all her back muscles and pelvis and had to have the chiropractor every fortnight for months.She had an enormous hole in her quarters that the vets had never seen before, i think that we are lucky to still have her. She should have been in foal to Gemini but due to a mix up she actually eneded up in foal to a 17hh oldenburg (the last thing in the world i would have used on an AA) but thats another tale!!!!!

We didnt think she would survive or come sound again, let alone grade so well.

AA mares have to have premium marks to be excepted into the main stud book and as one of only two in the country i think dispite her faults she did very well!

Her filly has good limbs and has taken after Gemini in that she has a big front and very good shoulder.

Nicky

However her grading marks were as follows

type 8
conformation (body) 7
conformation (legs) 7
walk 7.5
trot 5.5 (needs more elevation and spring)
canter 6.5
overall impression 7

judges comments

Good broodmare and "show hunter" type.Good bone.Good in walk.Overall an attractive AA which would suit a trakehenr stallion that passes on exceptional movement.

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weirton
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Posted - 14 Feb 2009 :  4:52:09 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add weirton to your friends list Send weirton a Private Message

Nicky
I can understand those marks. She looks to be a grand mare. I also had a mare who had a bad foaling and had a whole in her quarters. She looked dreadful but the chiropractor worked her magic and a few months down the line you would have never known she'd had a problem.

Jean

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BabsR
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England
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Posted - 14 Feb 2009 :  6:20:45 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BabsR to your friends list Send BabsR a Private Message
Hi Nickie....Sue Freeth of the Diptford Stud purchased Wrenthorpe Rhapsody (now 18 yrs old) from Jenny Hales, a couple of years ago and covered with her 148cm Riding Pony Stallion She has produced a colt foal, and Sue is very pleased with him and hopes he will make 15hh...be interesting to see him.

Babs

www.SunrayAngloArabianStud.co.uk

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BabsR
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England
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Posted - 15 Feb 2009 :  11:21:08 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BabsR to your friends list Send BabsR a Private Message
Hi Denmoor

Still waiting to hear if the Premium Scheme Sub Committee Meeting went ahead as planned on 12th. Feb.

Babs

www.SunrayAngloArabianStud.co.uk

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Micky
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Posted - 15 Feb 2009 :  12:58:44 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Micky to your friends list Send Micky a Private Message
I think we are all waiting - wonder how long it will take.
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kimzi
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Posted - 15 Feb 2009 :  5:50:36 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kimzi to your friends list Send kimzi a Private Message
Must say would have loved to have had the oppurtunity to use Roselier (TB) we have had tb stock of his before and they were immenseley talented in every way without being heavy, babs would you know if anyone has used him to sire an anglo?
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BabsR
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England
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Posted - 15 Feb 2009 :  7:24:47 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BabsR to your friends list Send BabsR a Private Message
Hi Kimzie... will look in my Anglo Arab Stud Books to see if any Anglos by Roselier.. let you know when I have scrutinsed same.

Babs

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Hazel Cornes
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Posted - 15 Feb 2009 :  11:52:17 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hazel Cornes to your friends list Send Hazel Cornes a Private Message
The photographs of the BEF PSHP Stallion Parade held yesterday 14.2.09 at Hartpury are on Greenlees-equine photography's website under gallery.

I do think this would be such good PR for the Premium Scheme if this sort of event was supported by the AHS, as it is well produced and within 24 hrs there are approximately 20 photos on line for each stallion. It is also worth noting that not all the Stallions were ridden.
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nn
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England
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Posted - 16 Feb 2009 :  07:54:43 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nn to your friends list Send nn a Private Message
Hi Hazel
Just sent my entry for the arena uk parade.

They do have to be ridden unless they have a vets certificate!

Its only £50 to enter and AHS premium stallions are allowed to compete,other AHS stallions wouldnt be eligable as they are not classed as sport horses!

Only stallions graded into a society with a seperate sport horse section can compete, i know because we were not allowed to parade Ranger last year at Moulton.

Nicky
www.romarnicstud.co.uk

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BabsR
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Posted - 16 Feb 2009 :  08:08:05 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BabsR to your friends list Send BabsR a Private Message
Absolutely agree Hazel...Lets get the AHS Premium stallions along to these parades, which are held early in the year.....and a MUCH better way of seeing the stallions, close up and going through their paces, whether in-hand or ridden.

Where were you Denise?, would have expected your stallion to be there
and yours Nicky, representing the breed as Sport Horse Stallions

Babs

www.SunrayAngloArabianStud.co.uk


Edited by - BabsR on 16 Feb 2009 08:09:21 AM
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pat ww
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Posted - 16 Feb 2009 :  10:00:35 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pat ww to your friends list Send pat ww a Private Message
Still now word from premium meeting???

Although I have always thought stallion parades are a useful snapshot of comparing what is available, I do wonder at the actual effectiveness of them in relation to the viewing public actually booking any of the stock paraded.

I do not have wide experience of them, but at one I attended there was a 2 minute walk round an indoor school while the annoucer read out some pedigree and show results then they disappeared off into the car park, back onto the lorries and oblivion. There were as many stallions forward as spectators in the gallery, and some like me and my gang were only there for curiosity as we had our own stallion.

I will start new thread on an idea that might be worth trying, but don't want to clog up this thread.
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