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Judith S
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 Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 5:49:54 PM
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Yesterday evening Charlie started to choke while eating his tea - rather worring & we called the Vet - she sedated him - but failed to tube him - hes a REAL monkey to do this as had it done several times as a foal due to the orphan probs as a new born. Anyway - sedation relaxed the muscles & he swallowed & it cleared - thank goodness!!!!! Stabled him & Cuckoo overnight & he was fine this morning - back to his VERY cheeky self
Is choke in foals common? Had it years ago with another homebred - but he was about 3 yrs.
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marionpack
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 5:57:02 PM
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| Don't know if choke is common in foals, but glad he's OK and being his normal cheeky self |
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Judith S
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 6:06:04 PM
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| Thanks Marion - yesterday evening was rather fraught!!!! |
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Honeyb060674
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 6:32:06 PM
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Oh no poor Charlie, sorry can't offer any advise Judith I've only experienced it in older horses. Its a horrible thing to happen Bless him he's such a monkey, do they get taught these thing especially to worry us? |
      
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tamila
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Helen Newton
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 6:36:10 PM
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Hi Judith! I have no foal experience, but choke is very scary for horse and owner. Rooster recovered from his with no long term side effects, I'm hopeful that it was a one off as I'm sure it is with little Charlie. Give him a hug from me Helen xx |
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Judith S
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 7:02:00 PM
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Glad he's sorted now Judith - not much experience of choke (thankfully) but foals' gland do swell so easily, maybe they are up a wee bit and he was being greedy now it feels like autumn? Easily done - we did have more trouble with fine pellet youngstock feed than a meatier grain feed... but we always feed lots of beet too
Similar to your 3yr old : bombproof 4yr old riding cob had a grumbly tummy and made himself SO much worse by worrying about it - sweating, puffing, throwing himself about when he was just gassy!! |
    
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firstlady
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 7:45:02 PM
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poor Charlie
only seen choke twice and is very scary for all of you
but thankgoodness he is ok
well done to Dyfryn Tywi team once again
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Judith S
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 7:47:44 PM
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| Mrs V - he's been eating dry coarse mix fine - but now wetting it!!! He did't panic - just has spasms when he tried to swallow - poor boy - Vets inj helped greatly!!! |
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Pixie
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 8:13:01 PM
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| i've seen this in youngsters.......an age ago. i believe it was with grass nuts and not using enough water to soak them. (not me) the feed was always given thereafter swimming in water. |
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gossy
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 8:31:56 PM
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| Oh Judith what a worry, glad hes ok now, love him, i must admit i always soak my feed, id rather it was too sloppy than too dry. |
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kirsty
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 8:46:19 PM
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Hi Judith
Glad charlie has recovered choke is very scary to watch. I have never had it with my horses but have had 2 incidences in recent months with mine. My yearling got it at grass in August and the vet had to be called and Es had it tues am this week but no vet as it cleared quickly it was my fault as he had dry mix (he was eating up the vet gate mix from the weekend)
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Lin123
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 9:03:55 PM
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O bless him Judith. Glad all is ok now, but how scarey for you. Not a foal, I know, but I had an 8yo do this to me last year and it was awful to witness
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Holly
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 9:18:33 PM
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Thats so strange. I was about to post a new topic about choke as it happened to my mare on Monday night. The poor thing didn't manage to clear the blockage and the vet didn't get to us for 2 hrs as he was already on call. THe vet said that by the time he had got to us the blockage was by her heart which was why my mare was so distressed and uncomfortable. Ive never come accross or heard of choke in horses before and I truly thought that my mare was going to die on Monday night. She was stumbling onto the floor, bringing up green gunge/slime through her nostrils and mouth and thrashing about, really upset. The vet said that he treats about 2 horses a week with choke so it is more common than youd think.
He gave her a muscle relaxant and antibiotic injection incase it had got into her lungs.
The vet said to really wet her food down and put a brick in the middle of her bowl so she has to push it around and work for her food and hopefully slow her down.
the next day she seemed fine but struggled to eat her dinner on tues night. she then started coughing on wednesday which has got worse each day, there are also gurling noises coming from her throat. ive got the vet coming back out tomorrow morning to re-check her and hes putting her on a course of antibiotics. Hopefully she just has a sore throat and not fluid on her lungs!!
I think that people should google 'CHOKE' to find out about it as it was very scary and distressing for both my mare and me.
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brynmarli
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 9:24:05 PM
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O no not Charlie.
I've also had no experience in foal but my old section A does it sometimes when he hasnt chewed his feed properly (lack of teeth) It is horrible and you feel so helpless, but really glad Charlie is ok. It isnt anything to do with teeth is it??
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NUTTER
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 9:45:43 PM
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I had it a few years back with a mare i was looking after!!!!
It was awfull also the fact it was not my horse!!,
With this mare and the other i was caring for i did not like the look of the gunky sticky feed when i opened it that the owner had left me with!!
Put her on what ours were having and no probs..
Although the other mare was fine on it..
It was for this mare the feed.. cheaper mix to rich and sticky as loaded with mollases.
Not that am saying anybody here has done that, this paticular feed that the owner had never used before obvously did not suit that mare....
So glad to hear he is allright now Judith, hes a true fighter.. |
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Diane Latham
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 10:07:08 PM
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Hi Judith
Glad Charlie is ok. It can be very frightening. It is very rare for a horse to develop complications or die from choke which is very reassuring, unless there is an underlying problem causing the choke. Most chokes are a result of greedy horses ot taking in too much air with a mouthful of food.
The best thing to do for the horse is to stay calm otherwise they can panic and then the situation just gets worse.
Very ofter just massaging the neck will help to shift the problem. Our 11 year old Arab gelding had choke a couple of months back. I couldn't clear it so called the vet after about an hour as the gunge from his nose and mouth was getting worse. Vet was there in about 20 minutes. He couldn't clear it so tubed him. The horse was so calm and sensible. No panic at all. He got a nasty nose bleed and was a bit quiet for a couple of hours, but we turned him out a few hours later and he grazed quietly. He had a cough for about a week which got progressively worse. I would imagine he was very sore for a while. I gave him NAF Respiraze and the cough cleared up.
The first time we experienced choke was in a 2 year old and then a six month foal, then again in a 3 year old. All different horses and none of them had any problems after the blockage was cleared nor have they had it again.
Big hug to Charlie who has probably forgotten all about it now!
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Kazhak
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Posted - 11 Oct 2008 : 03:26:04 AM
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we had a young mare that used to choke regularly, in the end we had to change what she ate & seperate her from the others when she was feeding,
for her it was a cobination of rushing & the type of feed she was eating,
if we fed her pellets of any form we had to soak them overnight so they were really really soft - & then find a way to slow her down so she wasn't gulping her feed |
     
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paul_exe
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Posted - 11 Oct 2008 : 03:39:41 AM
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Keeping fingers crossed here, but I have never known one of my horses to have choke, but it sounds very frightening. Yes I know it is late, cannot sleep.....
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natntaz
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Posted - 11 Oct 2008 : 08:26:32 AM
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My mare used to get it when she was younger. I found it
to be because she bolted her feed. I used to put a ball
in her feed bucket to slow her up. I always feed with
sugarbeet and never near others. I also never fed her
carrots either because she would never take the time to
digest them properly. When she did get it i would also
massage her neck and gently lunge her which usually used
to shift it. The other thing is to try pour down a little
vegetable oil.I am not saying that these will all apply to
your youngster but when desperate all worth a thought
Hope he never gets it again and you dont have to worry
about any of the above again
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vjc
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Posted - 11 Oct 2008 : 09:27:58 AM
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| Hi Judith i know how you feel...my sister had a foal that had choke on several occasions, we also called the vet and was told it is very rare for it to become fatal but it is still very distressing, we were told to make his food very sloppy and if he did go into a choke to stroke his throat quite firmly to aid the passage of food, luckily he seemed to grow out of it, fingers crossed for your boy. |
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mogwai
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Posted - 11 Oct 2008 : 5:33:39 PM
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Goodness judith, i dread to think how many years this little man has taken off your life in his short time on this earth. Good job he's so cute
I hope he's ok.
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