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Red Rum
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 Posted - 10 Sep 2008 : 2:38:47 PM
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I rescued a thoroughbred from a racing yard who was like a stick insect, for company for my arab. We gave her all the love and attention she needed along with plenty of food, soon she looked great and was really a lovely ride and would make a brilliant eventer. A friend schooled her and then due to work committments could not give her the attention she deserved so I let her go out on loan, to be paid for within a period of time.
Last year she fell off the ramp and had to have about nine months off work. Now she is back in work and has problems with her Sacroiliac joint. The lady who part owns her has rung me up to let me know about this.
The insurance year has run out and I did tell her to keep an eye on this.
I am still owed £700 - I have emails I sent allowing monthly payments
She cannot afford to keep a mare who cannot compete.
Mandy
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Adara_Arabians
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Posted - 10 Sep 2008 : 2:48:35 PM
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| take legal action, I would make sure the mare is safe though |
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Pasha
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England
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Posted - 10 Sep 2008 : 3:03:48 PM
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Can you take her back? What does the part-owner propose to do?
I'm not sure how you stand from a legal perspective but maybe worth checking out |
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gossy
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alison
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Posted - 10 Sep 2008 : 3:09:22 PM
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Unfortunatley we have a mare on our farm who damaged her Sacroiliac joint and can no longer be ridden as it could give at any time. I hope your mare was not damaged as much as this one. Good luck.
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Red Rum
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England
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Posted - 10 Sep 2008 : 3:17:31 PM
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| Hi The mare is safe and the family do love her but not enough to keep her as a pet. She is due to see the vet in the next couple of weeks. I don't have a stable for her and it is to wet for her to stay out and as you all know bedding and hay is very expensive this year and I already have three lovely arabs. She could go out as a companion but I will have to see what the loanee is going to propose. |
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ashabarab
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England
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Posted - 10 Sep 2008 : 3:28:05 PM
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take legal advice
the lady should still pay you as the contract [should] be binding
maybe you can come to an agreement about the keep...sounds as if she wants you to take the mare back....which l would do and make sure she gets a good home...maybe loan her this time so you maintain control
if you buy a car on hire purchase [terms] if it goes wrong l doubt if the company is interested in anything but there money...
just my opinion
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rosyw
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Roseanne
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Posted - 10 Sep 2008 : 4:19:57 PM
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I agree with RosyW. It's not on to take the horse to use and then expect to abandon responsibility and hand the problem back when things go wrong. Did the horse fall off the ramp in her care? Perhaps she should be taking more 'ownership' of this problem.
Hope you get it sorted. It's not an easy one and as a caring person it's put you in a very difficult position. You may just have to start being 'hard'! It also goes to show that such eventualities should probably be considered when people share or loan horses. Best of luck. |
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Pauline
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Posted - 10 Sep 2008 : 5:03:38 PM
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What kind of injury to her Sacroiliac joint has the mare done. Has she been seen by a good Equine Chiropractor.
Like others have said if the person still owes you money then she should pay up.
Is there a possiblity that the mare could go out on breeding terms or was the injury too bad.
If the mare had been fully owned by this person would she just
have sold her on or would she have had her PTS
How old is the mare.
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Pauline Higgs
Equine & Human Holistic Therapist
www.thegentlestouch.co.cc
www.endurancegbmidsouth.co.uk
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arabic
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Posted - 10 Sep 2008 : 5:15:36 PM
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Oh its a difficult one. My head agrees with what has been said. Technically she bought the mare which makes it hers AND she still owes you money. I doubt very much she would have liked it if the mare was doing well and because she owed you £700, you asked for it back.
BUT my heart says - What will this poor mares fate be if she cannot afford to keep her. I think I would be tempted to find the mare a lovely home that you can monitor but not refund any of the money already paid - after all, she has had her fun! |
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pat ww
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Posted - 10 Sep 2008 : 7:37:05 PM
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If she has had 9 months off presumably that was paid for out of insurance? so should not have cost your buyer anything for this period.
Is her SI joint too badly damaged to be a health risk as a brood mare? We had an unregistered TB mare to our stallion some years back, she had similar problems with her back, yet had no problems at all producing a filly that owners have kept to do dressage with.
There are not too many Anglos being bred at present, could be an option for her. |
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Red Rum
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Posted - 11 Sep 2008 : 07:32:24 AM
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| Thanks for all your replies. The mare is six/seven years old and she fell off the ramp in the care of the loaner. She has yet to take her to the vets and this is why I am asking what aliners would do in their opinion. I am upset but my set up will not allow for one more in the winter. Maybe she can be used to have a foal, and it would be lovely as she is not you usual long thoroughbred type. I need to see the vets report and speak to the loaner/part owner. When I brought this mare she was so so thin and had a really long stark looking coat. She has just been chicked in a field with nothing. I nursed her back to health and she never complained about anything, straight on the box to my yard - it is so sad. |
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Pauline
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Posted - 11 Sep 2008 : 08:02:59 AM
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Mandy
I'm confused ,the loaner has not had the vet to this mare so how do they know the extent of her injuries.
The mare is six/seven years old and she fell off the ramp in the care of the loaner. She has yet to take her to the vets
Was the mare just turned away.
The lady who part owns her has rung me up to let me know about this.
She did not ring you when the mare fell then.
The insurance year has run out and I did tell her to keep an eye on this
If this is the case then the loaner is responsible for her treatment.
The mare is safe and the family do love
How can this be the case They do not want her they have not delt with her health.
She is due to see the vet in the next couple of weeks
Why the next two weeks WHY not now.
It seems that the loaner has not taken any responsibility
I would find out the extent of this injury and get the mare back the "LOANER" owes you money and they should pay up.
Get this mare back and then issue them with a small claim for the money they still owe you.I would be very angry with this people. After all the hard work you and the other girl have done for the loaner just to take no care of YOUR mare is not right.
Have PM'd you too
Pauline
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Red Rum
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Posted - 11 Sep 2008 : 08:32:25 AM
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Hi Pauline
The mare fell off the ramp just over a year ago and the vet was called and I was kept informed although I was horrified at the time, but accidents do happen. She did have laser and other treatments along with a long period of rest. The lady who part owns her has always kept me informed and I have visited on several occassions. BUT she should have found out this problem a little sooner before the year ran out on the insurance but due to a wet winter they were not able to start re schooling the mare until a few months ago and the problem has come to light when schooling her in circles. The mare is due to go to the vets next week and I will ask for a report. Mandy |
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precious
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Posted - 11 Sep 2008 : 09:13:58 AM
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I hope that the vet report brings a good news.
From what you have said she is well loved currently cos 9months is a long time to care for a injured horse not only time but money. It gets hard if you can only afford to keep 1 horse and then that one horse cant be ridden Unless you have got unlimitied grazing to turn them out on.
Good luck with her the horse sounds lovely and you have done a great job getting her better in the 1st place.
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gossy
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Posted - 11 Sep 2008 : 09:24:02 AM
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[right]Originally posted by Red Rum
Hi The mare is safe and the family do love her but not enough to keep her as a pet.
I would have to say that this part bothers me, contradicion in terms!! does that not show you how much they care?? i to agree with Rosyw. and i wouldnt leave my mare there. |
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Zan
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Posted - 11 Sep 2008 : 09:31:25 AM
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| I agree. Love is love, whether or not the horse can be "used". |
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Eeyore
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Posted - 11 Sep 2008 : 09:50:16 AM
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I agree too! If you take on a horse injuries can happen and you have to be prepared for that. They sound like they want a machine, not a horse.
Was the horse insured for loss of use? You could maybe recoup some money this way and then concentrate on finding a good companion home for her.
I sympathise with you not having the facilities to over winter a TB properly yourself. Could you afford livery short term for her while you get something sorted?
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Edited by - Eeyore on 11 Sep 2008 09:50:38 AM |
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nicolanapper
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Posted - 11 Sep 2008 : 4:36:16 PM
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I agree with rosyw, and others, if you take on a horse you look after it regardless, it is not a car. If you can indulge yourself to compete on a horse, you bl..dy well should care for it when it is sick. Makes my blood boil these competitive types, they want all the glory but not the care when it goes wrong. Get your horse back asap.
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Red Rum
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Posted - 11 Sep 2008 : 4:40:46 PM
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Thanks for all the replies
She has a date see the vet next week, and is well fed and not wanting for anything at present. I will have to wait for the vets report to see what the next step will be. I don't feel at this stage it would be appropriate to ask for her return. Please keep fingers crossed she will be ok. Mandy |
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