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Kirsty5278
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 Posted - 04 Sep 2008 : 8:11:08 PM
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How do you deal with it??
The pony WILL NOT be apart from Raz, he will never be too far from his side...
The last show was just impossible... small person couldn't warm him up as he wouldn't leave Raz side...
I can't take Raz out alone as Sox goes mental even in the stable...
Sox cannot be taken away from Raz in any shape or form without a massive crisis going on...
Tonight was the worst ever... Small Person was lunging him in the same field, just seperated by white tape (he's normally good for her) so I picked up the poo close by so I could keep an eye on them. I could see he had his eyes on raz the whole time and was prancing and really napping, he then stormed round in canter, pulled the lunge rein from her hands stormed around the school.... he then jumped the white elec tape and ran up to raz and muzzled him as if he'd been apart for months!
Obviously I took over the lunging, he was still very strong and even bucked in my direction(which is very new and never done before!!), so i just told him to get on with it and after a few circles he calmed....
Its so silly, Raz wasn't making a scene, he wasjust grazing about 50 metres away - He could see him!!
So I think something will have to be done...
do i walk raz out starting off for a few minutes and gradually increasing??? or are there any other ways i can try...
I worry that Sox the pony will injure himself in a tizzy if left in the field or his stable???
Any suggestions?
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jaj
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Posted - 04 Sep 2008 : 8:32:35 PM
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Is introducing a third horse or pony out of the question? Just wondered if it might break the total dependancy that they have on each other.
What a pain for you though!
Jen
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kcv1223
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England
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Posted - 04 Sep 2008 : 8:36:38 PM
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Yep I agree, 3 is a good number. Just make sure the companion you get doesn't mind being left!
(Word of warning though, "getting 3 to make life easier" led to my current status of 14. At least no one is ever alone these days!!)
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Roseanne
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Posted - 04 Sep 2008 : 8:40:39 PM
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My thoughts too. I'd try to ease the anxiety with a third.
Too-strong bonds between equines can be dangerous. As kids we had ponies and my sister's gelding bonded with a foal my Mum bought at the same time as him. He would bolt for home to be with her, dodging gateways and corners and offloading whoever was riding. Mum gave up when a guest fell off on on her head as he bolted for the stable yard...
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Suelin
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Posted - 04 Sep 2008 : 8:42:44 PM
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| Ollie is very clingy whenever I have 2 horses, gets in a dreadful state. However when I first had him in a livery yard he never minded anyone going away because there was always someone else about, so getting another might do the trick. |
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geegee
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Posted - 04 Sep 2008 : 9:06:42 PM
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That's why I also have 3  Works really well. |
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gossy
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Posted - 04 Sep 2008 : 9:19:47 PM
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| i had the same thing, i have 4 horses now, the mare and the 2 fillies are fine the welshie a is awful, before i got the mare, the 2 fillies were ok it was the welshie, real separation anxiety, as long as i leave welshie and one or other with her she is fine, it pays to have 3 or more i find. |
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Kirsty5278
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Posted - 04 Sep 2008 : 10:31:16 PM
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I would love another pony / horse / donkey / mule / lama / goat!!! but it really is out of the question... land owner will only allow two horses on the field (even though its too much for just the two of them) and my OH would really not be up for the idea in a big way.... its already "bloody horses" as it is - unfortunately my passion is not shared!
Maybe someone could do me a favour and tie a horse to my gate and I'd HAVE to keep it... what else could you do if a horse was "dumped" on you - poor thing needs a loving home and all!!! |
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gossy
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Posted - 04 Sep 2008 : 10:35:16 PM
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| Llama or sheep then, they look after themselves and are great company, if landowner wants your money they would not worry about one extra!! i have found that, had 1 then 2 now 4!! my OH is non horsey to, i have told him that extra 2 were bogof's. |
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Kizzys Mum
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Posted - 04 Sep 2008 : 10:57:32 PM
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| I would look into a monty roberts recommended associate they can offer great advice and help with the training www.intelligenthorsemanship.co.uk I found with my mares the really short bursts of walking away and coming back helped. The two I have now love each other's company but aren't bothered if one is taken away which is useful |
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Nedds71
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Posted - 04 Sep 2008 : 11:40:25 PM
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My feeling is that alot of seperation anxiety in horses comes from bad experience in weaning - usually instand weaning!
You can deal this situation through build up of trust, and that it is ok to be with a human and away from the equine friend.
You have to start with tiny steps, and you may need the help of another adult. I would take the pony and Raz off for walks in different directions, first around the field no more than 5mins, build up very quietly. You need to work this every day. When the pony is happy - may take days/weeks start going out of sight for a few mins. Also no reason why you can't put electric fence between them for short period getting longer to encourage indapendance.
It is only by giving Sox other things to think about and enjoy you will start to see improvement. Don't leave him alone in stable as it only reinforces his anxiety! If Raz is happy to stay in the stable take Sox off for walks, in hand work, short hack etc. Time and patience will improve the situation. Good luck! |
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NUTTER
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Posted - 05 Sep 2008 : 09:03:07 AM
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Hmmm i have 3 but still get the problem when 2 go out !! so was thinking 4.. but got to draw the line somewhere !!
I do leave mine and let them scream they have all got used to it
although it is upsetting for us to hear it.. |
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susan p
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Posted - 05 Sep 2008 : 09:05:17 AM
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Is the pony a youngster?
I had this with Stazi,when he was a baby,but he grew out of it and now he prefers human company to equine.
It is helpful to have three or more though(thats my excuse anyway!!) |
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