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spirit
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 Posted - 27 Jul 2008 : 12:17:08 AM
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Hi, i have decided on a Sufix/Prefix (such as LVA, ADH, AV Arabians) for my home bred foals due in 2009 and i wanted to know how to check to see if the letters ive chosen are available or already taken. Do i have to pay to hold/register my prefix? Any help is much appreciated as not sure where to start. Thanks.
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spirit
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 27 Jul 2008 : 10:47:16 AM
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Yes Nat, you need to register your prifix. with the AHS. all My horses are allowed to carry my prefix Dreamfeild or shortened to DF. although I dont always use it. just get in touch with AHS and tell them you want to register your prifix, tell them the name and spelling, they will do the rest, good luck talking of which, how is DF Ballerina ? |
   
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shfwarrior
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Posted - 27 Jul 2008 : 10:52:45 AM
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| if you look up central prefix register, there is a search page to see if what you want is available. good luck. sue , comptons arabians |
   
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spirit
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England
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Posted - 27 Jul 2008 : 3:58:07 PM
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Hi, I have found out a little information. But, when i went on The Cental Prefix register it says you have to use at least 3 letters and mine was only 2 ???
Lynda, yours is only 2 letters ( 'DF' Arabians), how did you do yours?
Also lots of other people only have 2 letters and not 3, do they just not register their prefix and hope that nobody else uses it, or have i missed something.
I will ring the Arab horse society, but it will have to be tomorrow as they are closed now.
Thanks alot. 
Lynda - 'DF'Ballerina is fine, enjoying the sunshine we have had this week and being a good girl. Ps. i will send you those pics i promised as i have them on the PC now! x |
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 27 Jul 2008 : 5:41:16 PM
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My prefix is Dreamfield Arabians , but I can register DF , so can you ! just as Lilliveiw Arabians can register LVA I could even register my foals DFA if I wanted to |
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spirit
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England
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Posted - 28 Jul 2008 : 11:35:58 AM
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Thanks Lynda, Ive ran the AHS and they are sending me an application form. They said that its now the law to use at least 2 letters for your prefix.
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LYNDILOU
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weirton
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Posted - 28 Jul 2008 : 6:26:59 PM
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Sorry to alter the subject a little but can someone tell me why it is that some people (me included) have been told when trying to register more than one name with the same 'prefix' that the name must be registered and I note that others have used the same'prefix' time and time again without registering.
As it happens I have registered with the Central Prefix Register and several other breed societies to keep the prefix for my own breeding. Also just to add when I did my prefix it was cheaper to do it through the CPR than through the AHS direct. |
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pat day
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Posted - 29 Jul 2008 : 08:39:22 AM
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I wanted Temple Wood Arabians, the same as the farm, but had to have Templewood Arabians, but I am happy with that.
Good Luck Nat.
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Jamana
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Posted - 02 Aug 2008 : 8:15:13 PM
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Glad this has come up as the prefix thing has been nagging at me for a while but I never seem to think to ask, so here goes...
I thought that arabs were 'not allowed' a prefix/suffix, just a name (like my filly, just plain Jamana not xxxx Jamana) is this right or did I dream it??! if it was when did it change and why?
also why do people go for letters rather than a name like the welshies for example (LLanarth, Parc etc.) Letters are much more confusing for us newcomers! |
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shfwarrior
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Posted - 03 Aug 2008 : 09:58:52 AM
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| I dont know about the whole "just A name thing" cos im fairly new to arabs, but the letters this is mbecause you are only allowed a certain number of letters in the name, so if you have a long pre/suffix it limits the lenght of the horses actual name. i e Comptons bint bint shirara would be to long, but say CSA bint bint shirara would be shorter. I think Sue |
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Cage Alma Arabians
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Posted - 25 Aug 2008 : 10:03:16 PM
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Our stud is called Cage Alma Arabians- which is a combination of the first two letters of the christian names of the four members of our family- a name created by my Dad a long time ago. To use this as a prefix would limit us in our choice of names as you can only have a maximum of 27 letters including spaces but..
We do have CageAlma registered as a prefix. We also have the abbreviated version of CA as in Cage Alma. this means we can use either for any given foal registration.
Apart from telling everyone who bred the horse, it also opens up the doors for names- if you want a certain name and there is already another horse of that breed registered with that name, a prefix makes it different enough to enable you to use it. (Hope that makes sense!! Couple of glasses of wine!)
You have to put in three choices on the registration form and using a prefix means you are more likely to be able to use you favourite name. i.e the name becomes unique to that particular horse.
Prefixes and suffixes can be applied for and paid for via a form from the AHS who send it to Gina Dent at the central prefix registry. It costs about £60 through the AHS, and if you are in partnership you designate 1 person to be the main holder- so that in the event of a partnership dissolving everybody knows who can continue to use said prefix.
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MinHe
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Posted - 27 Aug 2008 : 12:59:42 PM
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| Originally posted by Jamana
Glad this has come up as the prefix thing has been nagging at me for a while but I never seem to think to ask, so here goes...
I thought that arabs were 'not allowed' a prefix/suffix, just a name (like my filly, just plain Jamana not xxxx Jamana) is this right or did I dream it??! if it was when did it change and why?
also why do people go for letters rather than a name like the welshies for example (LLanarth, Parc etc.) Letters are much more confusing for us newcomers!
It's not actually a rule - rather, it's mainly down to the traditions in the different breeds. It was never a tradition for Arabs to have prefixes: however, with the increasing numbers in the breed internationally and people wanting to use the same (relatively few) Arabic names, prefixes have become an inevitability.
The limitation on number of letters is a comparatively recent thing, due to computerisation: database systems have been set up with only a limited number of input spaces, which means that you can't have names that are greater than the number of spaces available (my surname almost always gets cut off short, LOL!!).
However, this is a fairly arbitrary limitation, as anyone who looks at the names of Welshes and Highlands (which almost always have the suffix 'of Somethingingaelic' )
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