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Emagetic
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 England
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 Posted - 26 Jul 2008 : 4:55:18 PM
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My sister has just been to look at an arab in wales and his full brother was for sale for only £600! This is a registered broken 12 yr old pure bred arab gelding with Shahpoor, Nareena, Melchior and Silver Salila breeding. Is the market really that bad or what? 
This particular horse does require a tie back operation if he was more than a hacker as he has broken wind, but moves lovely and is v well put together. Am just shocked that some breeds of dog cost more than this and got impression the owner may lower her price. Is that creeping towards meat money or what?
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rosie
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England
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Posted - 26 Jul 2008 : 5:24:00 PM
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A friend of mine went to a horse sale last month & said that the prices of horses was terribly low.
Those horses that had to be sold due to owners emigrating etc were virtually given away.
I personally think that the breeders should really look hard as to whether there is a market for future youngstock due to the economic climate at present?
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 26 Jul 2008 : 5:24:20 PM
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Yes this IS what the Arabians have been reduced to, due to over breeding unfortunatley, there being a very small % of people wanting them, I have paid more for my puppies than some beautiful arabians are going for ! |
   
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ashabarab
Gold Member
England
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Posted - 26 Jul 2008 : 5:28:55 PM
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but how much is the op and recovery? 2 thou?
there are a lot of cheap horses around yes....and as costs soar l expect there will be more, a lot of people are finding it very differcult at the moment...every time l go to buy food it has gone up.. my haynan tells me my big bales of haylege are now going to cost me 20 instead of 15.....the rising costs of fuel affect everything...the only thing not going up is my income!
on the other hand l feel sorry for the poor horse being sold on for a small price because he needs an op...he does sound nice but please get a second opinion from another vet so your sister dosen't get a nasty surprise when she gets the vet bill
good luck and please keep us informed
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jaybird
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France
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Posted - 26 Jul 2008 : 5:30:50 PM
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Hi all
Oh yes! and it will probably get worse, consider how much dog food you can get for the price of 1 horse on even D.I.Y basis, I also think that is why dogs and cats are so expensive nowadays people do not breed like they used to, I have just gone & picked up the two most beautiful part bred Siameses kittens you have ever seen FREE to a good home, how much would these be in the UK??? Why? because people are sensible they neuter/castrate cats no kittens there now Voila!! here it's going to take alot longer although all the English people do, our French Forums are full of well bred animals very cheap or free (definately not horses though) these are very expensive.
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Emagetic
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England
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Posted - 26 Jul 2008 : 6:00:59 PM
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this is a picture of the horse discussed and it doesn't do him justice acording to my sister. I'm showing this pic so you can see the horse isn't a moose and is a good type for riding.
Estimated price for op costs around £600 -£700 so isn't cheap and the horse is going to auction on thursday. Such a shame. Agree prices are going up all around for food and keep, shame the horse owner's are put in a position like this. |
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jaybird
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France
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Posted - 26 Jul 2008 : 7:40:57 PM
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Ok! I have an issue here, I suspect there will be few takers for this horse!! I hope I am wrong but WHY WOULD YOU!! buy a horse that needs an operation (which could go wrong) then the after care, common sense says no so why do these people do this?? I hate it when people cannot do right by thier own animals, instead wanting somebody else to take the responsibilty, caring owners would have the operation done then try to sell. Hmm!!
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nicolanapper
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Posted - 26 Jul 2008 : 8:05:47 PM
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Here, here Beryl, wholeheartedly agree with you. What on earth are the owners thinking of.
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Emagetic
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England
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Posted - 26 Jul 2008 : 8:14:00 PM
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Hi Beryl
I'm not sure about the owners circumstances and so don't want to speculate. Each horse has a story whether it has fallen on bad times or whatever it is and there are horses in situations like this. May be the owner knows they need to sell and the operation is only needed if someone wants to work or show the horse i.e as far as i understand it is not life threatening and just makes a noise when worked hard but is suitable in it's current condition for hacking or companion and this is my point it is a healthy, well put together fab moving horse and it is at such a low price. I understand what you're saying in that the horse would probably sell better and be less of a risk (if that's the right word) to the new owner if it had had the op. When I posted this link I didn't realise how much the op could cost. I suppose the new owner would take on the risk of the op plus the cost. Think it is such a shame all round. Bring down the cost of living to make it easier for everyone. |
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navaho621
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Wales
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Posted - 26 Jul 2008 : 8:27:51 PM
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I guess he is entered for LLanybydder on thursday then?? Ive had a horse with this condition before, although i appreciate it can vary in its severity. Id love to offer a home to this boy, i know you probably all think im barking, but i hate the thought of anything go through that sale, especially arabs, its cob country here & arabs just dont sell there, especially arabs with problems.
I have PM'd you Emagetic. |
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jaybird
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France
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Posted - 26 Jul 2008 : 8:34:39 PM
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I do not wish to sound harsh, but the advert is wrong a) it will attract the wrong king of people that think cheap!!Heh Ho! I'll make a profit and will not have the horse operated on (loads of Bute) etc! etc! if the person cannot afford the money for the operation then perhaps look at putting the horse on some grass livery until another solution arises, but advertising at such a low price could end up with one miserable life for the poor horse.
I would say one thing though some are so overpriced that I think they will remaim unsold aswell.
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Zan
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jaybird
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France
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Posted - 26 Jul 2008 : 8:42:14 PM
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Great!!! seems like he may have a new home, please keep us posted, I do hope you buy him.
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Gerri
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England
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Posted - 26 Jul 2008 : 11:18:03 PM
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| Hi I really hope you buy him, as he may be a very special boy and just needs someone to take the chance on him, he may have a very special personality, the reason I say this is that I have bought so many horses that have had something wrong with them, even ones that have needed operations and they have gone on to be really really loving and perfect in every way, so go with your gut feeling I know it costs as much to keep a healthy horse as a sick one but after you have got them right they are worth their weight in gold emotionally. |
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navaho621
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Wales
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Posted - 26 Jul 2008 : 11:35:12 PM
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| Well i dont believe it! I know the lady selling him!! Im going to contact her first thing tomorrow & take it from there. Will keep you all posted! |
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ange1234
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Posted - 28 Jul 2008 : 10:09:42 AM
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I hope this boy gets a loving new home... I'm Em's sister and while I was with him he was cleaning his owner's knee. I only wish we had had the space for both of them but just don't... believe me we tried shuffling things...
Please let us know if anything gets sorted for him. |
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precious
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England
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Posted - 28 Jul 2008 : 10:20:43 AM
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good luck Navaho!!!, wishing you all the best and well done for helping him. Yes it sounds alot of money with the op but at least he can be ridden now as a hack without the op. I have had to spend £1500 to resuce a crippled/ripped to shreads horses from nasty dealers and appleby and 8weeks on treatment etc still isnt able to be ridden and is lame.
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vjc
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Posted - 28 Jul 2008 : 10:28:57 AM
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| Hi gem, sorry to hear your boy is still lame, it certainly looks like a long job with him! it is such a shame because when i met him he seems such a sweet boy. are you still going to malvern??? |
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precious
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Posted - 28 Jul 2008 : 10:35:34 AM
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Hope the boy gets a great home
Hi VJC :) Hopefully Rebel will get better eventally vet will be back out after my showjumping comp. In the field yest he was trying to canter but was all over the place with back end trotting bless him.
Still going to malvern with Precious :)
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Offira
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England
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Posted - 28 Jul 2008 : 12:28:32 PM
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I was only thinking about Rebel and that other rescued boy (Blu) this morning. Poor Rebel still suffering, god knows what happened to him in that lorry .
Re: Llanbydder - why have I only ever seen 2 horses marked in the catalogue N.F.S. (not for slaughter)? I don't understand - if horses have to end up in the market would you not, at the very very least, mark them NFS??
Sorry Emagetic, gone off on the topic. The Welsh horse is lovely, hopefully flagging him up as you have done will secure him a good home.
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navaho621
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Wales
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Posted - 28 Jul 2008 : 1:27:00 PM
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Offira to be honest if you cared enough to mark your horse NFS you wouldnt be entering them in the first place would you?? I know people do end up in bad situations & what have you, but there are ALWAYS alternatives. I actually would rather PTS than send mine to a fate unknown, sorry if that sounds a little harsh, but i couldnt stand the thought of mine ending up somewhere like that Gray chaps place or worse still desitined for the continent & someones dinner plate.
Regarding this little arab at the moment ive not been able to contact the owner, i will keep trying, but worse comes to worse i will be at the sales on Thursday! |
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precious
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Posted - 28 Jul 2008 : 2:07:25 PM
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Navaho, such a big heart! All the best and i agree i couldnt send any horse to a sale as you dont know where they will go i have seen too much bad things from meat dealers that buy at sales and pretend they will be pets.
Hope you can get in contact before the sale! |
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navaho621
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Posted - 28 Jul 2008 : 4:25:11 PM
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Just a quick line to let you know we a probably going to see him tonight or possibly tomorrow!!
Will keep you all posted! |
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ashabarab
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England
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Posted - 28 Jul 2008 : 4:29:17 PM
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good luck.. l so hope there is a good end to this
you have my good wishes anyway
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Offira
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Posted - 29 Jul 2008 : 8:38:55 PM
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Just seen the Llanbydder catalogue 
Re my earlier comment about NFS 
Can't trust myself to say anymore |
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navaho621
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Posted - 29 Jul 2008 : 8:44:35 PM
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Just to let you all know i went to see him tonight!! He really is lovely & its such a shame that no one ever bothered to spend the money on him having the op done, or for that matter even tried to get him riding as he is. There are other people interested in him as well, so we shall just have to wait & see what happens. Whatever happens though i can assure you all he is NOT going to the sales on Thursday!!
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