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pascoe
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 Posted - 09 Jul 2008 : 1:20:56 PM
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I Have been offerd a really lovley horse to buy, he is a excellent dressarge horse, grade A show jumper, and enjoys hacking. Now i am only intrested in the Dressage and hacking bit. He is an older horse, (14) They have asked around £2000.00 ish for him, do you think that this is a fair price? The only thing i am a little concerned about is his age...
Look forward to your advice..
Thanks
Pasoce
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Kash
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 : 1:26:45 PM
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Hi Pascoe,
Obviously depending upon his temperament/vices/safety in traffic etc, I would say he sounds rather cheap.
A friend bought an aged (20) Grade A showjumper years ago and he was then £5000 but was a totally super ride, completely honest and still capable of doing decent sized tracks.
Best of luck with whatever you decide though.
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pascoe
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 : 1:30:41 PM
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He is a start to ride, gets a little excited when jumping large tracks, but im not reall up to that right now. He is a dream to ride, real push button ride, fab to ride out and did everything i asked of him... I dont think he has any hang ups about about anything. I supose its just his age that worrys me a little, has any one els bought a horse of this age??
Oh how rude, Kash thanks for your reply, has helped with the price bit.. :-) |
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NUTTER
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 : 1:32:57 PM
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A friend of mine worked with showjumpers and riders until just recently travelling europe etc also for a couple in the under 16s england team..
People pay incredible amounts for some..
Do you know the horse well.. if not pm me |
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Geena
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 : 1:34:55 PM
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| I think that is quite a good price for his experience. I would't worry about his age. As long as he was well looked after in his younger years and not caned the nuts off you would be fine. My old boss sold a grade A mare 12 yo for £11,000 and that was 10years ago. She said she had at least another 6years of proffesional competing in her as she was well looked after. She still competes now but not as much as she used to. |
  
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Pixie
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 : 1:35:52 PM
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I did - we are still together. I would say though if I were to buy another of this age I may well have x-rays and scans done before I actually buy.
I think £2000 is a lot of money for a horse that age but having said that its also NOT a lot of money for his capabilities.
Does the price matter if he is everything you want.
Oh what do I know. I can't even find a sound horse to look at. So ignore any advice I give you. |
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Jenni5
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 : 1:47:59 PM
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I think it would be different if the horse hadn't done anything in its life time, been in the field for two years, not at all schooled until recently and still green, then the price would defiantly be too much.
But seeing as the horse is a Grade A showjumper and has been places, as well as being good at dressage, the price put forward is a resonable price. At the age 14, the horse still has years left to do things, look at the 37yro arab who is still competing at endurance, now im not saying that this horse will reach that, but don't be put off just because of the age.
Also it would be different if the horse had injuries or problems that couldn't be treated. |
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baxter
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England
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 : 1:49:08 PM
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| I think that's a reasonable price, but in todays market you could barter him down to about £1500 i reckon. |
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Merlot
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 : 1:50:20 PM
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| Do you know his background at all ? Has he been "well used" as it were ? Don't think it's a bad price for his experience and capabilities but I think X-rays/scans would be a good idea. 14 isn't too old I don't think but depends on the life he's had previously. They only have so many miles in their legs but saying that, they're all different. It's a lottery - all you can do is try and reduce the risk for yourself. Good luck whatever you decide. |
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pascoe
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 : 1:53:15 PM
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Hi, thanks for all your advice, its is just his age that bothers me, if he was 10 then i dont think i would mind so much.. He was competed a lot when he was younger, but since then has been very low milage.. I really dont know what to do.. It was not exaclty love at 1st sight, but i loved riding him? Cant really afford to keep another horse, but then again not sure if i could afford to turn down this oppertunrty to compete again...
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Pixie
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 : 1:55:16 PM
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| My mum used to say if you want something you know you want it - if you not sure then you don't really want it. Not sure you can apply this rule to a horse as horses are not ITS. |
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Geena
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 : 2:10:16 PM
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Bearing in mind at 14 it means you would be hard pressed to find an insurance company that would do loss of use so I would strongly recommend that he was fully vetted.
Can you take a friend who knows you well along with you as they can sometimes gauge your reaction the best? |
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Pixie
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 : 2:22:09 PM
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| If he has been insured with Pet Plan for the last 5 years they will probably continue to cover him for LoU. |
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Roseanne
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 : 2:26:17 PM
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My neighbour bought a 13-y-o mare that is push button; been there, done it and got the tee-shirt. After a particularly scatty TB mare that was bordering on dangerous, it was great to see her being able to go off to riding club camp, go to shows and competitions and quite safely do everything, and win rosettes.
She had the mare vetted and was told it was on Cortaflex so they were fairly honest but clearly they were selling her because she had been 'well used' and done lots of jumping competition. The mare hasn't the best hoof conformation and unfortunately within a year of getting her, just as all looked fine, she started getting tendon tenderness, swelling etc and had to have most of six - nine months off, with plenty of box rest along the way and steroid injections into the tendon sheath etc. So the future of easy riding on a beautifully behaved horse has turned into a life of being very careful with her; she's now doing a little ridden showing but has to be extremely careful and doesn't dare turn the horse out 24/7 in case she strains or sprains herself again.
I'd try to find out its medical history and exactly how much competition it's done. People just do sell horses that have limited active life left, while there's a bit left in the tank so-to-speak.
I really hope that's not the case here. Good luck whatever you do. |
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pascoe
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 : 2:43:58 PM
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| Thanks, i did not fall in love with him like i fell in love with my arab, or my other horse, but in saying that the two i did fall in love with i should have never have bought!!! One i cant and dont ride and the other is a long slow battle, one that i am only just starting to ejoy (after 3 years). Thanks all for your advice, i will look into how much he was actually show jumped!!!! |
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Geena
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 : 3:09:59 PM
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| Don't forget there is actual and nominal money in his prize fund so don't go by prize fund just enteries. |
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TC
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 : 5:19:15 PM
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I spent £2000 on beau two months ago hes 13 and I think if you really like the horse as I did with him then theyre worth it.My mum paid £750 in 1982 for my last horse and she lived with us til she died at 32.Hope this helps  |
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 : 5:27:36 PM
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I dont think he is too old or to expensive, You cant even buy some types of dogs for that money these days, peanuts, if he he a good sort , and he could live another 20 years yet! The only way he would be expensive is if you plan to sell him on again later, you wont get your money back, but I am sure thats not what you are thinking  |
   
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rosyw
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 : 6:34:47 PM
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These days I don't consider 14 to be old for a horse! and if he is a nice as you say then it's a very fair price. Look at the ages of horses of that age and older still competing at very high levels, for example in eventing, see if you can get hold of a list of entries for Burghley, and check the ages of the horses, the greater majority are in their mid to late teens I doubt you could buy and of those for £2000 |
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 : 6:49:13 PM
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| You also said you wouldnt mind if he was 10 ! but I bet he would have been a lot more money at 10, so I think he is a good buy (providing he passes the vetting) |
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pat ww
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 : 11:29:23 PM
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| If he passed a thorough vetting and was insurable then his age should not be a problem, the only query, why has he been low mileage as he got older, is it because he does not stay sound with harder work? |
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vjc
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 : 11:47:32 PM
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| sounds a fair price to me, but as others have already said get his limbs checked out in case he has been pushed to hard, if he has then his joints could deteriate in few years time. best of luck. Verena. |
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s.jade
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Posted - 10 Jul 2008 : 11:09:34 AM
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There horses going round Baminton at 20...14 is no age!
He sounds absolutely fab...hey if you dont go for it pleeaase send me the woners number hehe |
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Cakes
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Posted - 10 Jul 2008 : 11:31:44 AM
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| I don't think you should consider that old - like others said I think I would look more into the history and whether he was safe to hack out on the road. Think the price sounds reasonable. |
       
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white bryony
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Posted - 10 Jul 2008 : 12:31:22 PM
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| Sounds a reasonable age and price, we have a 25 and 35 still going strong! so you may have many yrs riding for a bargain |
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georgiauk
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Posted - 10 Jul 2008 : 1:33:29 PM
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At 14 and a push button ride, he should be snapped up. I'd consider him a bargain. There are lots of people who have low mileage horses out there is doesn't mean they're unsound or can't stand hard work maybe they haven't had the opportunity to further them or the owner has other horses to bring on...jmo
Imagine what it has cost to breed him, rear him to ridable age, kit him out with equipment, schooling +/- lessons, your 2 grand would be quickly swallowed up |
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