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honey
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 Posted - 12 May 2008 : 07:14:51 AM
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heres a video of ros attempting his first course of jumps, they are only small as their ain't much room in the paddock, but he coped well with the sharp turns and had pretty good control, he got a little excited and we jumped a different jump than i intended a few times but we managed it. put a slightly bigger one up at the end about 75cms just. This is his only third time jumping under saddle too. Planning to take him upto my instructors to have a proper lesson with him and then get him out show jumping, he really is enjoying it now.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=D3ShTrkkQU0
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Zan
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Scotland
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Posted - 12 May 2008 : 09:22:17 AM
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| I'm sorry but I found that painful to watch. That horse can't be fit because he is only just started under saddle as I understand from previous posts and flinging him at these jumps like that, in such a small space is asking for leg injuries and is far from a sympathetic way to start his education. |
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Cryapakah
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Zan
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Posted - 12 May 2008 : 11:25:10 AM
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Nothing to do with being an Arab and everything to do with too many jumps in too small a space with very tight turns for a totally inexperienced horse.
There is fit and there is fit to work. To be fit to work the work must be built up gradually. No horse should be expected to jump like that at the very beginning of his ridden work .
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Crusaders Angel
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Posted - 12 May 2008 : 11:35:41 AM
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On the one hand - well done Honey for having a go and sharing with us. Its natural to be pleased with your horse for trying hard and he looked as though he was enjoying himself.
On the other - I was concerned by the size of the area you were jumping in and that it looked as though you have cars parked in the area. I know not everyone (me included  ) has access to a huge all weather area and a full set of show jumps but in order to help a your horse it would probably be better if you used a bigger space. It is hard enough for a youngster or inexperienced horse to sort their legs out and get a good rhythm going in a large space, I just think a small space is unsafe.
If you are serious about competing in jumping classes then you should bear in mind that if the horse is balanced and calm and has a good rhythmical canter going then the jumping comes becomes much more fluently. This has a knock on effect of helping the natural cushioning in the limbs work more efficiently.
Sorry didn't mean to write a sermon - genuinely pleased for your progress, just wanted to give some friendly advice 
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rosyw
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Posted - 12 May 2008 : 12:25:35 PM
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| Please don't take this the wrong way but I have seen far too many promising youngsters ruined but doing too much too soon - take it slowly - it will pay off in the end. Whether the horse is fit enough or otherwise - is he mentally ready for this yet? |
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Tahir
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Posted - 12 May 2008 : 12:47:34 PM
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I just have to add to this too honey.
You obviously have a very talented horse, and you are a talented rider too. BUT (not shouting, just stressing) the area you were using wasn't really suitable for a round of jumps, albeit small ones. He is only 4, he is having to cope with his balance and the added weight of a rider on his back, and trying also to negotiate jumps at the same time - IMO, an awful lot for a youngster at this point in time. My opinion (for what it's worth) would be to use the arena you have and put in a few trotting poles, then concentrate on balance, transitons and direction. Some lungeing and some ridden would keep his mind active. I think that once he is balanced and happy in his work, he will take those jumps in his stride, instead of running out or knocking them down.
Good luck honey, he is an amazing horse and deserves to be given the best chance to prove your combined talent!!!
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honey
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N. Ireland
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Posted - 12 May 2008 : 9:40:42 PM
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| hi thanks for your concerns. ros is not four hes actually NINE so yes he should be mentally and physically able to cope with all i ask of him. I might only have been riding him for three weeks, but i have been spending months doing ground work with him, jumping him inhand, lunging, walking him up the roads and hes out about 2-3 hours aday where he constantly running about or walking, . I know the paddock is small, but i needed to see how he coped with more than one jump in the padddock at one time, so thats why the fences are only max 40cms if even that he could easliy trot over them and this is part of the reason he was knocking them down at times, he didn't think he needed to jump them. I only normally put one jump up and only jump him once a week in between we mainly plod about hacking and doing a little schooling. |
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Evie
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Posted - 13 May 2008 : 12:14:17 AM
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| He is a gorgeous horse and it's nice to see video and picture of him. Like someone else said we don't all have access to big arenas and sets of show jumps although when you go for a lesson with your instructor I would presume this will be in a bigger area. Do let us know how you get on when you go for your lesson :) |
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x_Kath_x
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Posted - 13 May 2008 : 03:41:44 AM
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I don't often comment and it'll probably be deleted anyway but I had to say something...
you obviously look after your horse well, he looks great, BUT he really does not look happy in that video, far too small for him to get in any rhythm he just looks confused. not the best way to start him in a jumping career having to point him in to them instead of developing a rhythm and coming into them on a natural curve or finding a line, and then pulling him up short after each jump as there's no space to turn.
I don't have any facilities to jump my horse so I don't do it. If I really wanted to jump him I'd at least take him out somewhere so he has some space to learn properly, regardless of his age his needs should come before your desire to jump him. |
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Nashiba
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Posted - 13 May 2008 : 12:23:09 PM
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| Totally agree,whether he is 4 or 9 and such a willing horse to thrown around such a small space will still put a lot of strain on his joints as he cannot balance himself properly in such an enclosed area.Lovely horse though. |
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ang678
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Posted - 13 May 2008 : 2:48:35 PM
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Sorry had to stop watching when he looked like he nearly hit the car parked in the arena !
Lovely horse though, please be careful.
Ang X
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Goldenmane
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Posted - 13 May 2008 : 3:55:54 PM
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| Gorgeous horse. Just my type! I'd leave jumping till you're with your instructor, less stressful for both of you. |
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annas
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Posted - 14 May 2008 : 11:53:17 AM
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I had to stop the video too for all of the above reasons. This is unfortunately a sure fire way of putting a horse off jumping (however game they are). Not to mention the stress it is putting on his body, whatever age he is. No horse should jump multiple (or even one) fence in a space that small.
He looks gorgeous, you are very lucky. |
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baxter
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England
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Posted - 14 May 2008 : 12:04:58 PM
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Hiya felt i had to comment too, he's blimmin gorgeous for one, defo my type, and i'm not a jumper anymore, WAY to scaredy cat for that, but jumping be him 4 or 9 (from what i gather he's inexperienced) is 90% flatwork and just 10% jumping (I used to jump an awful lot as a kid on my little array of ponies) So i would say forget trying to put up courses, do all your schooling first (establish this) introduce a jump and you can make a course from one jump, just by figure of eighting it etc.... make one jump count, not a whole bunch a bit of a mess. And could you school in a paddock? Somewhere to allow at least a 20 metre circle before you direct him in a straight line to the jump.
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pascoe
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Posted - 14 May 2008 : 12:15:49 PM
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| hello, to start he looks a lovley horse, and very willing to please but you are working him in a space that is far to small for him, be carful that you dont put him off for life :-( |
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