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Zenitha
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England
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 Posted - 22 Dec 2007 : 11:49:27 AM
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Hi Bia,
This is really fascinating - you could make a living at this.! At the very least you need your own website ! Hats off to you it takes an awful lot of knowledge and work to do what you are doing... go on - write us all a book about it or something.......if you ever get time ! |
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angelarab
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Wales
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Posted - 22 Dec 2007 : 5:41:45 PM
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I have just read all of this thread WOW, so much to learn! any way would someone be kind enough to fill me in on what is the difference between all the types Vicki M did try to explain but my brain cells hurt after a while!
P.s this is my chap
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/bahcardi  , whats he % |
 "Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened."
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Barabia
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Sweden
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Posted - 26 Dec 2007 : 8:53:15 PM
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| Originally posted by LOU
Hi Bia,
Sorry to be a apin bet you wished you hadnt contributed to this thread.
Only if you have time could you tell me about my two 1st Fferzan,by Ffatal Attraction/Fazleta the 2nd is Ffaria by Ffatal Attraction/ASS Windi
Many thanks if it poss
Louisa
Hi Louisa, your bet was wrong.. I love this kind of work!
Fferzan is 60,87% Crabbet/Old English, 15,3% Egyptian/Old Eg. and 12,5% Spanish, with a total of 60,1% Crabbet included (mostly from his dam) who is 91,5% Crabbet/Old English.
His sireline (Saklawi I Or.Ar.) and tail-female (Selma I Or.Ar. trough Sobha) goes to Sheykh Obeyd, Egypt. Strain: Hamdani Simri.
Ffaria is 35,53% Crabbet/Old English, 30,78% Polish, 21,19% Egypt/Old Eg. and 12,5% Spanish, with a total of 35,1% Crabbet included (mostly from her dam) who is 40,23% Crabbet. Ffaria is considered to be 37,5% Russian etc.. but behind the Russians is Polish, Egyptian, Crabbet etc bloodlines. Also.. many of the Crabbets is straight Egyptians, but I count them as Crabbet/Old English as many other people does.
Her sireline is the same as Fferzans' and her tail-female is Sahara Or.Ar, the founder of family no.3 in Poland. Strain: Kohejlah-Moradieh (sp?).
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Barabia
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Sweden
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Posted - 26 Dec 2007 : 9:10:09 PM
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Hi Fee,
I had a lot of time over the weekend (holiday)! Polianka was quite easy to research.. thank you! She is considered as straight Russian, though the bloodlines are as follows:
59,77% Polish, 40,23% Egyptian.. with a total of 25% Crabbet included. The Polish lines do have some French- Babolna (Hungary)- and German blood far way back, but I didn't count them as such!
Her sireline is Koheilan Adjuze 1876 (imp. to Babolna) and tail-female is Milordka 1816, Slawuta - Poland). Strain is given as 'a Seglawieh'.
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Barabia
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jaj
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 Dec 2007 : 10:28:24 PM
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Oh Bia, thank you so much that's fantastic  !
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Kuraishiya (Maleik el Kheil/Kazra el Saghira) and Sahara Bey (Kuraishiya/WSA Charismma) |
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Fee
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Posted - 27 Dec 2007 : 10:56:26 AM
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Hi Bia,
Thank you so much for that  I'm well pleased 
I always thought she was considered straight Russian, but now I know for sure, thanks! Can I ask, what determines 'straight' Russian? Also, does her 25% Crabbet come through her Egyptian line or both? How many generations do you go back?
Sorry for so many questions It's just so interesting!
Thanks again Bia. I told Po this morning she was 60% Polish and 40% Egyptian, but she just wanted her apple 
Fee
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alix liddle
Silver Member
England
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Posted - 27 Dec 2007 : 6:42:52 PM
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Hi Bia, if you are not too fed up with this or too busy would you be able to tell me about my horse? please. Her name is Jemaliaa and she is entered on that www.allbreedspedigree.com not sure how to make the link. I went onto someone else's link and typed her name in the search box and it went to it. Sorry, I'm rubbish with IT.
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alix liddle
Silver Member
England
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Posted - 27 Dec 2007 : 6:44:58 PM
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| Arggh sorry link doesn't work. I hate computers, they don't like you if you're over 40!! |
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LOU
Gold Member
England
637 Posts |
Posted - 27 Dec 2007 : 10:29:05 PM
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Thanks so much Bia for Fferzan and Ffaria break down, ive owned faz 9 years I didnt know he had that much crabbet?
If it isnt to much of a pain would you be so kind to do my friends gelding Muscodin his sire Muscabar his dam Rosalba, I just added him to allbreeds didnt know he related to my mums old mare who was the last foal of Lady Nasam, she died foaling her.
Thankyou in advance, for your help and knowledge
Happy New Year
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s.jade
Platinum Member
United Kingdom
2401 Posts |
Posted - 27 Dec 2007 : 10:38:57 PM
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Hi Bia,
If you have chance I'd love to know more about these horses lines:
Rohara Faberge
Judals Tres Chic
Illumintata
Aanyarah and her sire
Many thanks
Hi gemma, lovely to see you've got into Aprils pedigree, hope she's being a ood girl  |
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taranstorm
Gold Member
Wales
952 Posts |
Posted - 28 Dec 2007 : 5:19:47 PM
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Hi Bia,
If you have chance I'd love to know more about these horses lines:
Mirage taran 1999
Cumbria kaiser 2006 (was told he is full straight eygptian?)
Tashah 2003
Graceful spirit 2000
Bint il bint 1988 (was told she is full straight eygptian?)
Shah hannah 1999
Black lady sahira 1998
Shimmering czar 1990
Icickle 2005 ( 75% arab)
Spellbound hidden colour 2004 (50% arab)
I know its lot to ask....i would love to know for sure as always get mixed answers about % for them!  |
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Barabia
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Sweden
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Fee
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Posted - 29 Dec 2007 : 10:14:45 PM
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Wow! Thank you again Bia for answering my questions and doing all that work!
I meant to say previous, I like your avatar, I think it's you at work and you do look happy! 
Fee
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Barabia
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Sweden
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Posted - 29 Dec 2007 : 10:25:09 PM
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Originally posted by beauHi Bia, Pls pretty pls could you look at beau's for me, only when you have the spare time, you are snowed under with requests so dont worry if you dont have time for months, just find it very interesting. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/tas+baroque
Hi 'beau', now it's your turn!
'Tas' bloodlines is 40,35% Old English, 39% Spanish, 12,5% Polish, 8,15% Egypt. Including 37,45% Crabbet, most from his dam who is 55,91% and her sire 76,39% Crabbet. But there are many other lines to Crabbet, in the 4'th generation there is only the Spanish stallions Galero & Jacio who are without Crabbet bloodlines.
Sireline is Dahman-Amir 1887, (from Poland - to Spain)
Tail-female is Arabka (bred by Pompadour, France - to Poland)
I can't find any more info of them, so no strain for Tas!
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Barabia
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Sweden
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Posted - 29 Dec 2007 : 10:31:41 PM
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My pleasure Fee, thanks!
Yes, my avatar shows me lying on the floor counting percentages! It's a perfect avatar for me, I do love it!!!
Bia
Edit: Ooups, almost forgot to tell ALL of you in the thread.. You are 'lined up', I have printed out all pedigrees... pheeew!
Next in turn is Ssharakit WH and then 'Ziggy' & 'Fred'
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Barabia
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Sweden
1059 Posts |
Posted - 30 Dec 2007 : 11:37:54 PM
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Hi again...
Meg, 'Ronnie' has Polish from both his parents, though a little bit more from his sire who also has Spanish in him.
Here is the total percentages for 'Ronnie':
52,5% Old English, 27% Polish, 13,3% Spanish, 7,2% Egyptian/Old Egyptian, with a total of 49,72% Crabbet included.
Sireline: Mirage OA
Damline: Rose Of Sharon to Rodania OA
Strain: Kuhailan Ajuz
Anne, oh yes.. 'Ziggy' is 100% Old English, 99,41%+ Crabbet included! It's only in his dams side through Aluf (in the 5'th generation) who has two lines to the non-crabbet stallions Dwarka and Borak.
Sireline: Mahruss to Zobeyni OA
Damline: Rose of Sharon to Rodania OA
Strain: Kuhailan Ajuz
'Fred' is 90,5% Old English, 9,5% Egyptian, 88,95%+ Crabbet included, most from his sire. His dams sireline (Shakhs) is straight Egyptian though there's some Crabbets behind.
Sireline: Skowronek to Ibrahim OA
Damline: Rosemary to Rodania OA
Strain: Kuhailan Ajuz
Sue, Razwin do have some drops of Polish and French bloodlines (total 5,66%), and then there is 16,95% of Davenport/Hingham, W.R Brown & Kellogg- imports/-breeding, and 77,39% Crabbet.
Sireline: Skowronek
Tail-female: Wadduda OA (to US, Davenport)
Strain: Seglawi Al-Abd
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ACGODFREY
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 31 Dec 2007 : 11:40:04 AM
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Hi Bia,
Thanks so much for doing that. Wow, I knew Ziggy was high percentage but I didn't realise 99.4%!!!! and that Fred is 88.95% is a real surprise.
I have added a photo...Ziggy is the chestnut.
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Dot
Gold Member
England
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Posted - 31 Dec 2007 : 11:57:43 AM
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Would you mind looking at
Duiker
Quest Ella Bint Zareen
Warrens Hill Dylan (I know he is 1/4 french and 1/4 Baranian)
Warrens Hill Destiny (I know he is half French)
Many thanks,
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GemS
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Posted - 04 Jan 2008 : 09:47:47 AM
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Thank you so much Bia. Its so interesting
Sam April is a star, im now riding her and we go all over on our own. (not many people ride out at the yard) She is very brave with everything apart from water! Even the smallest of puddles have to be avoided. Im going to splash out this year and get a trailer so that we can get to the shows in summer as she did so well at the one we went to last year and was really chilled about the whole thing. (much more chilled than me!) Hopefully we will see you at some shows, I saw your post about northallerton, might take her just for the experience. Ill take some pictures this weekend and try to post them on here.
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beau
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Jan 2008 : 6:43:25 PM
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Hi Bia,
Thank you for doing that, it really is fascinating have learnt sumthing there,
I really appreciate it thank you so much,.,
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s.jade
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Jan 2008 : 7:54:50 PM
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Fab news Gemma please do take piccies, can't wait to ee her!
I'm taking my novice mare Rohara Faberge, so we might be in April' class at N'alleton! |
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linda
Platinum Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Jan 2008 : 9:39:45 PM
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Hi Bia,
Can I please join your list?
I often get asked about percentages of my horses but am unable to answer,
Antigua El Jamaal
Yazmeena Estopa
Bint Yazmeena
Spring Kantata
Rough Justice
Nadjana Bint Nadir I thought straight Russian?
Estoniah on behalf of Alethea
Naomi on behalf of Julie
There are quite a few so just fit me in when you have time,
Huge thanks
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moatside
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England
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Posted - 06 Jan 2008 : 9:08:28 PM
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Hi,
Would you be able (at some point when you have time) to tell me what % of what my Christmas pressie is? I know that there is a mix of Polish, OE & Egyptian but I am new to this and haven't a clue as to where to start!! She is not on allbreeds but mum (Mont Blanc) & dad (O-Tejo) are.
Thank you very much!!
Kim
Pearl is now on allbreeds:
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/lujayn+lu+lu |
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Anfi
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Posted - 06 Jan 2008 : 9:23:37 PM
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Hi Kim,
If you tell us the name of your xmas pressie, I'll add her to allbreeds for you.
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