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moldequine
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Posted - 06 Dec 2007 :  11:16:59 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add moldequine to your friends list Send moldequine a Private Message
Could someone please tell me what my mare is, im guessing egyptian but havent really got a clue. Her breeding is: dam: Mc Natalie (bru bet seradro/bru bet natalie Sire: Tc jabaskman (gg jabask/karathaza) she is jabask sophie.
Thanks in advance
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Barabia
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Posted - 06 Dec 2007 :  11:41:18 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
Hi, she is mainly Crabbet/Old English/Polish, and there is also a few Egyptians back in the lines. I just took a quick check, now I'm off to bed! I'll check her more properly tomorrow!

Bia

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Rebeckah
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Posted - 07 Dec 2007 :  10:20:23 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rebeckah to your friends list Send Rebeckah a Private Message
Hiya

Pretty please would you tell me what my boy is too? His page on All Breed Pedigree is http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ah+danza+bey

Many thanks in advance!

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Barabia
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Posted - 07 Dec 2007 :  7:08:53 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
Originally posted by moldequine

Could someone please tell me what my mare is, im guessing egyptian but havent really got a clue. Her breeding is: dam: Mc Natalie (bru bet seradro/bru bet natalie Sire: Tc jabaskman (gg jabask/karathaza) she is jabask sophie.
Thanks in advance


Hi Rachel, Sophie is 53,42% Old English, 38,67% Polish and she have also some lines (7,91%) to Egypt, Spain and France.
She is 48,44% Crabbet!

Bia


Edited by - Barabia on 07 Dec 2007 7:12:48 PM
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Barabia
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Posted - 07 Dec 2007 :  7:21:33 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
Originally posted by Rebeckah

Hiya

Pretty please would you tell me what my boy is too? His page on All Breed Pedigree is http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ah+danza+bey

Many thanks in advance!


Hi Rebeckah, your boy is a 100% black American!

Just kidding.. I'll check his bloodlines properly for you! It might take a day or two though!

Bia


Edited by - Barabia on 07 Dec 2007 7:22:50 PM
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Rebeckah
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Posted - 09 Dec 2007 :  3:04:09 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rebeckah to your friends list Send Rebeckah a Private Message
Thanks Bia! I look forward to hearing what you find out!

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Barabia
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Posted - 11 Dec 2007 :  8:10:23 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
Hi Rebeckah, sorry for the delay! It was a very tough pedigree to research, but fun though.. pheew!

He is 54,69% Polish, 32,64% Crabbet/Old English, 9,55% Egyptian/Old Eg. related and 3,12% Russian. Many of the Eg/Old Eg-lines is Davenport foundation & breeding.

Sireline is Straight Egyptian through Ruminaja Ali - to Saklawi I Or.Ar.
Damline is Crabbet through Battla - to Basilisk Or.Ar.
Strain: Saqlawi Jidran.

Now you know what your boy has in his blood!

Bia

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alethea
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Posted - 12 Dec 2007 :  11:48:14 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alethea to your friends list Send alethea a Private Message
Bia,
I dont suppose you could look up my mares bloodline percentages could you? Pretty please
Its fascinating stuff
Alethea
Aristotle Arabians
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Louise17
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Posted - 12 Dec 2007 :  11:54:04 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Louise17 to your friends list Send Louise17 a Private Message
Hi - this is such an interesting post. Great to know where our boys and girls come from.

Barabia - you are so clever - how do you find out?? If possible could you tell me bloodlines for Sonny please (please, please, please) http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/dearnebank+versace

Thanks

Louise
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moldequine
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Posted - 12 Dec 2007 :  2:04:32 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add moldequine to your friends list Send moldequine a Private Message
Thanks Bia
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Rebeckah
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Posted - 12 Dec 2007 :  2:24:14 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rebeckah to your friends list Send Rebeckah a Private Message
Thanks Bia - its so goodto know what he has in his bloodline!

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Crusaders Angel
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Posted - 12 Dec 2007 :  2:31:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Crusaders Angel to your friends list Send Crusaders Angel a Private Message
Hi Bia

Can I be really cheeky and ask you to take a look at Angel's pedigree. I think she is mainly Polish but it would be interesting to see if there is anything else mixed in.

Her pedigree is: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/crusaders+angel2

How to you tell whether they are Egyptian etc? Is it just years of experience, the names or voodoo?

Many many thanks,
Lucy & Angel
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katherineepea
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Posted - 12 Dec 2007 :  8:44:33 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add katherineepea to your friends list Send katherineepea a Private Message
wow how do you do that? id love to do mine- was looking at his pedigree the other day on his dads side it looks quite interesting.
how did u work out the exact %'s?
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Barabia
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Posted - 13 Dec 2007 :  11:14:01 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
Alethea, you forgot to tell me the name of your mare(s)!

Louise, Sonny is roughly 28% Egyptian and 72% Old English with a dash of Polish trough Nitez (by Witez II PL). Sonny is 72,45% Crabbet, and he also has some lines to Babson & Davenport among others.
Strain: Hamdani Simri (Selma I Or.Ar.)

Lucy, yes.. Angel is mainly Polish - 68,75% (with a little dash from France) and 31,25% Old English, all in all including 32,61% Crabbet.
Strain: Kehailet El Krush (Dafina Or.Ar.).

Katherine, I have a lot of books and also access to a database in US which help me very much. I have also owned horses of various bloodlines and learned to 'read' their pedigrees. It's fascinating and very addicted! I checked your boy up and filled in info on allbreed for you. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/howl+an+lor+kemysk

No woodooo.. just workooo!

Bia

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pathannay
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Posted - 14 Dec 2007 :  12:11:34 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pathannay to your friends list Send pathannay a Private Message
Hi,

Wondered if you could check the pedigree of my deceased mare Woodlay Angelika - both her parents were imported from Canada and I would love to know her percentages. Many thanks.

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/woodlay+angelika

www.azizaarabians.co.uk
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Crusaders Angel
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Posted - 14 Dec 2007 :  09:53:16 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Crusaders Angel to your friends list Send Crusaders Angel a Private Message
Thanks Bia - thats great to know! I think the "T" must be silent on the Crabbet .

At the risk of seeming really dumb - what does the strain part mean?

Thanks again,
Lucy & Angel
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alethea
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Posted - 14 Dec 2007 :  10:13:05 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alethea to your friends list Send alethea a Private Message
Bia
Her name is Ssweet Fantasy
Alethea
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katherineepea
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Posted - 14 Dec 2007 :  12:24:42 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add katherineepea to your friends list Send katherineepea a Private Message
thanks so much for doing mine! its ever so interesting and i never would have thought he would have so much english in him!
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arabic
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Posted - 14 Dec 2007 :  12:54:26 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add arabic to your friends list Send arabic a Private Message
Hi Bia,

I have wanted to ask you for ages if you would mind following up Freddie's for me? He is Birat, Sire Tarib and Dam Blue Farasheh. Dont think there is anything on allpedigree to help - sorry and a BIG thank you.
Sandie
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GemS
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Posted - 14 Dec 2007 :  12:57:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GemS to your friends list Send GemS a Private Message
Hi

Im facinated reading this thread.

Bia would you mind looking into my mares pedigree MO Beulahs Gold, she is on the all breed pedigree website. I have been told she is mainly Russian but would be interested in learning more.

Like Lucy im not so sure on what the strain part is either.

Many thanks in advance.

Gem

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Louise17
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England
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Posted - 15 Dec 2007 :  5:36:10 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Louise17 to your friends list Send Louise17 a Private Message
Many many thanks Bia - that is excellent - I dont know how you find out but I am really grateful - thanks again x

Louise
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Louise17
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Posted - 15 Dec 2007 :  6:43:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Louise17 to your friends list Send Louise17 a Private Message
Hi Bia

Sorry to be a nuisance but I wonder if you could help with another one please? My friend would be really interested to know about her mare. All breed pedigree link is http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/silver+zeyrha

Thank you so much
Louise


Louise
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LOU
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Posted - 15 Dec 2007 :  7:17:00 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LOU to your friends list Send LOU a Private Message
Hi Bia,

Sorry to be a apin bet you wished you hadnt contributed to this thread.

Only if you have time could you tell me about my two 1st Fferzan,by Ffatal Attraction/Fazleta the 2nd is Ffaria by Ffatal Attraction/ASS Windi

Many thanks if it poss

Louisa
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Barabia
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Posted - 15 Dec 2007 :  7:36:58 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
Hi All, there's no nuisance by asking me to look up bloodlines.. I LOVE to do it for you!

I've you all 'lined up', but it will take a while with the results.

Edit.. Read about the strains:http://members.aol.com/NadaraDefs/WebPage/strain.html

Bia


Edited by - Barabia on 15 Dec 2007 8:18:06 PM
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Fee
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Posted - 15 Dec 2007 :  8:28:25 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Fee to your friends list Send Fee a Private Message
Hi Bia,

When you find the time can you please look at Po's bloodlines. Thanks!

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/polianka


Fee



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jaj
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Posted - 15 Dec 2007 :  8:42:25 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaj to your friends list Send jaj a Private Message
Bia I hate to ask because you must be snowed under but any chance of looking up my mare when you get a chance? Don't mind if it isn't until next summer

Thanks so much !

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/kuraishiya

Jen




Kuraishiya (Maleik el Kheil/Kazra el Saghira) and Sahara Bey (Kuraishiya/WSA Charismma)
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