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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 25 Dec 2007 :  11:39:04 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message
Hi Lynda,Is it possible to identify the TB blood and also interested in the name changes. Thanks Sue

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Melynda
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Posted - 04 Mar 2008 :  11:59:12 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Melynda to your friends list Send Melynda a Private Message
Carmen IV
Hi Sue,
Have now aquired H.S.B Vol. XIV and found this on page 52;

8469-Carmen IV
Black, small star on forehead, four white socks. Foaled April 22 1935.
Owner, Henry Wynmalen, Kingswood House, Hare Hatch, Twyford, Berkshire.
Breeder, Oliver Dixon, Crescent Road, Reading, Berkshire.
Sire, Kindred (VOL. XXVI., p. 439) by Son-in-Law
Dam, 8461 Dôna Clara
PRIZE:- 1st Tring.
Also awarded a third in 1935 at non-affiliated Show.

page 71;
8461-Dôna Clara
Black, white forehead and line down to nose, both fore and near hind socks white. Foaled 1928. Height 16.3.
Owner, Henry Wynmalen, Kingswood House, Hare Hatch, Twyford, Berkshire.
PRIZE:-1935. 3rd Princes Risborough
Produce in 1935, Black, Filly, Breeder Oliver Dixon, Carmen IV Sire Kindred.



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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 04 Mar 2008 :  2:25:53 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message
Great Stuff Melynda, Glad to see your sorting it. Do you think this confirms another Spanish connection with Carmen & Dona Clara....& Espagnola. Don't know if there are any Spanish Hunter Stud books in existance. Did Henry's Daughter get a mention somewhere, wonder if she's still about ??.

Princes Risborough Horse Show, Laurel Farm, Longwick. The event starts at 9am and a crew from Princes Risborough Fire Station will attend with a fire engine from 10.30am to 2pm. Found this wonder if they attended in 1935.


and I've just bought the NPS stud books for 1934 - 1939 & the HIS Vol. IX for 1900 - 1901, wonder who has the years between Dona Clara & IX.. Regards & Thanks Sue..

Sue

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Melynda
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Posted - 05 Mar 2008 :  10:46:25 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Melynda to your friends list Send Melynda a Private Message
Oliver Dixon the breeder of Carmen IV is also the owner of 2 registered geldings in the same H.S.B. XIV.
Grand Slam foaled 1928, no breeding details.
Toome Bridge also foaled 1928 by Vigneron (T.B.) out of Lady Kathleen (H.S.B. reg no. 6858) by Sir Patrick. This one won at Royal Dublin.
Mr Oliver Dixon appears in Vol VII (1914/1915) as a seller of Mare no 5051 - Jessica III foaled 1898 no breeding details so he seems to have been selling a few mares etc for quite a number of years.
Don't think any of the above have anything to do with Carmen though.
I am missing H.S.B. XV otherwise I got nos VII and XVI - XX. Would love to get hold of the last three XXI -XIII if anyone got them. My mares great dam is registered in no XXIII but I have only seen a photocopy of the entry so far.


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Melynda
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Posted - 28 Mar 2008 :  10:21:21 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Melynda to your friends list Send Melynda a Private Message
Photo of Ladybird by Basa out of June XI. Owner Miss de Beaumont, Rider Miss Jennifer Skelton at White City 1955. Also won Part-bred Arab ridden at the Arab Horse Show, Roehampton, July 1955.
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 29 Mar 2008 :  1:13:23 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message
Great Stuff.Is this June XI ,http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/june+xi Thanks Sue

Sue

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Melynda
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Posted - 30 Mar 2008 :  10:40:18 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Melynda to your friends list Send Melynda a Private Message
Yes.
Ladybird is here http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ladybird+xxviii she is the dam of Shalbourne Flyaway (by Cliveden Boy (TB) by Ujiji).
She is in the H.s.b. Vol XVIII.

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