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dinkidoo
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Posted - 31 Oct 2007 :  9:47:42 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add dinkidoo to your friends list Send dinkidoo a Private Message
Hello

I have always wondered what percentage Crabbet my mare Kerry is but have absolutely no idea where to start working it out! The thread on the main page directs me here (to Barabia) I hope you don't mind me asking? If you could help me i would be so very grateful!

She is called Kerridwen - Sire - Atashah - Dam - Kalis (think thats right i don't have her papers in front of me! She was foaled 1991.

Also and now im being really cheeky! I don't think he has much Crabbet but now ive started typing this i wondered about my boy Dinki.
He is registered MG Fasha (1998) Sire - Taj el Nil - Dam - Bint Farida.

I hope you don't mind me asking but i would really appreciate your help and knowledge on this!

Carol

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Barabia
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Posted - 31 Oct 2007 :  11:37:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
I'm on to it Carol.

Bia

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Jumanji
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Posted - 01 Nov 2007 :  09:45:59 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jumanji to your friends list Send Jumanji a Private Message
Hi Bia,I have owned my boy for 14 years and often wondered this too,i always meant to ask someone.Please,please could you work the % out for me.Hes on all breed pedigree,Wrightfield Omar.
Many ,many thanks ,i hope you dont mind me asking either,i think this thread is fasinating.
Cheryl.

Edited by - Jumanji on 01 Nov 2007 09:47:10 AM
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dinkidoo
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Posted - 01 Nov 2007 :  10:21:08 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dinkidoo to your friends list Send dinkidoo a Private Message
Thanks very much!
She looks typical Crabbet she is the mare in my sig in the line up at a show. 4 white socks to her knees/hocks and rich chestnut with a platinum mane in the summer. She is a lovely mare to do but has been poorly for a few weeks with an infection that has travelled up her leg

Its very interesting to see how the lines travel and if she is eligable for the shows as it would be something extra for us to do with her

Carol x

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Barabia
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Posted - 01 Nov 2007 :  10:47:04 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
Hi Carol, make her ready for the Shows next year!!

'Kerry' is 87,77% Crabbet (87,76855) & 100% OE (Old English)! A lovely pedigree with 3 x Nuhra Or.Ar. (Bahraini mare), 2 x Dafina Or.Ar. close up in the middle of the ped. Also the Courthouse stallion Rheoboam in the 5th generation. I've put her up on Allbreed, go have a look. I will fill in some missing info later. She looks beautiful on your sig-pic, would love to see it in a big size!!

Sireline: Mesaoud (Zobeyni Or.Ar) http://www.arieana.com/nbmesaou.html#mesaoud
Damline: Nefisa (Dajania Or.Ar) http://www.arieana.com/nbnefisa.html#nefisa
Strain: Kuhaylah Dajanieh (a Kuhailah-Adjuz)

'Dinki' is (hold your hat!)34,54% Crabbet (34,539793) with lines to Egypt/Spain/Poland.. and of course UK (Crabbet/OE!
He is also on Allbreed!

Sireline: Nazeer (Saklawi I Or.Ar) http://www.horses-etc.com/Arabians/Nazeer.shtml
Damline: Bint Helwa (Ghazieh Or.Ar) http://www.arieana.com/nbbinthe.html
Strain: Seglawi Jedran

Bia


Edited by - Barabia on 01 Nov 2007 10:48:32 PM
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Barabia
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Posted - 01 Nov 2007 :  10:50:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
Hi Cheryl, I'll check him up!

Edit:
And it's done. Woowee.. such a lovely pedigree he has. Many, many 'oldies and goodies' close-up!!

He is 95,17% Crabbet (95,165515) & 100% OE (Old English).

Sireline: Mahruss (Zobeyni Or.Ar) http://www.arieana.com/nborigst.html#ma1
http://www.arieana.com/nborigst.html#zob

Damline: Rose Of Sharon (Rodania Or.Ar) http://www.arieana.com/nbrose3.html#sharon
http://www.arieana.com/nborigma.html#rod

Strain: Kuhaylan-Ajuz of Ibn Rodan (Rodania)

Pictures please!!

Bia


Edited by - Barabia on 02 Nov 2007 8:17:21 PM
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dinkidoo
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Posted - 02 Nov 2007 :  9:39:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dinkidoo to your friends list Send dinkidoo a Private Message
Hi Bia

Thank you so much for working out % for me!
What a lovely suprise too that she comes from such good lines.
We are hoping to put her in foal next year before she gets too old. She had a foal when she was younger but she will be 17 in the spring although she is still a very fit mare. We have done quite alot of showing with her and she has done us proud - she was 3rd at the Nationals as an open mare a few years ago but has had a break for last 2 years.
Will be looking for some advice and recommendations of stallions to suit her bloodlines and produce the type we are after but i will put that as a separate thread with some pics to give everyone a better idea of what would suit her.

Many thanks again its really kind of you

Carol x

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Jumanji
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Posted - 03 Nov 2007 :  6:38:01 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jumanji to your friends list Send Jumanji a Private Message

Bia,THANK YOU VERY MUCH.It was so very kind of you to work that out for me.The links you have given are just fasinating,to see pics of his ancestors from all that time ago is truely amazing.
Photos,will get the OH onto asap.Omar is the typical bright chestnut with 3 socks and a full blaze.

Thanks Bia,youve made my day.

Edited by - Jumanji on 03 Nov 2007 6:44:51 PM
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Barabia
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Posted - 03 Nov 2007 :  9:55:25 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
You're welcome, Carol & Cheryl. I love to do these kind of work!

Carol, I suggest you to ask Egbert (Gari) in the 'Tail female line' thread about advice re stallions. Have you read that thread? It's lovely to read all the answers in there!!

Bia

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kofihorse
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Posted - 15 Nov 2007 :  09:39:02 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kofihorse to your friends list Send kofihorse a Private Message
Bia, this thread has the potential to run and run, I think! Lots of people will be asking you the same thing - so here goes, would you have the time to work out my two?

My first horse was Alpha Laval(known to me as Kofi and sadly now at Rainbow Bridge), and my present boy is MAS Khan El Ajuz, both of them are on allbreeds and I would love to know their respective Crabbet percentages.Khan's strain is Kuheilan Ajuz and Kofi was a Seglawi Jedrani, I believe.

BTW, Khan's tail female line only goes back to Mahawiliyah and, apart from being owned by JC Spence and Mr Sword, I can't find out anything about her yet.

Thank you in advance!
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Barabia
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Posted - 17 Nov 2007 :  6:26:58 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
Hi 'kofihorse', I'll check your boys percentages.

Bia

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Barabia
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Posted - 17 Nov 2007 :  11:50:55 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
Originally posted by kofihorse

Bia, this thread has the potential to run and run, I think! Lots of people will be asking you the same thing - so here goes, would you have the time to work out my two?

My first horse was Alpha Laval(known to me as Kofi and sadly now at Rainbow Bridge), and my present boy is MAS Khan El Ajuz, both of them are on allbreeds and I would love to know their respective Crabbet percentages.Khan's strain is Kuheilan Ajuz and Kofi was a Seglawi Jedrani, I believe.

BTW, Khan's tail female line only goes back to Mahawiliyah and, apart from being owned by JC Spence and Mr Sword, I can't find out anything about her yet.

Thank you in advance!


Hi again!

Alpha Laval is (was) 86,23% Crabbet, 87,5% Old Eng. & 12,5% Polish (from Grojec). You're correct about his strain: Seglawi Jedran. His damline is Bint Helwa to Ghazieh Or.Ar, see a link above somewere.

'Khan' is 92,88% Crabbet and there is some lines to Russia/Poland & Egypt.. I guess you already knew that.

I know that Mahawiliyah is a Kehilah (Kuhaylah) can be spelled in many various ways.. but I don't know more than what's written at allbreed. I've tried to search about her, but no one seams to know more either!! She had 7 foals, but only 2 is bred on.. Sharaya and Rixiliyah.

Bia

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kofihorse
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Posted - 18 Nov 2007 :  12:13:31 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kofihorse to your friends list Send kofihorse a Private Message
Bia, thank you very much! I had been told that Kofi was Old English and Polish but I never knew how much of the OE was Crabbet until you worked it out.
And it's great to know that Khan's Crabbet %age is so high.
Now I want to find out more about Mahawiliyah, I might put up a thread asking for info about Messrs Spence and Sword.
Thanks again
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Barabia
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Posted - 19 Nov 2007 :  12:18:10 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
You're welcome!
Good luck with your boy.. and the research about Mahawiliyah!

Bia

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