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moldequine
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 Posted - 10 Aug 2007 : 9:44:57 PM
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Can a bay arab mare turn to fleabitten grey as she ages?
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Taylor
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Posted - 10 Aug 2007 : 9:58:36 PM
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| Yes, the arab stallion I look after was born chestnut then turned bay then went dappled grey and is now turning fleabitten and still changing colour and getting lighter at 9 yrs old! |
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moldequine
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Posted - 10 Aug 2007 : 10:42:55 PM
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| As my mare is fleabitten grey and i was told that the colour of the specks of a fleabitten is the colour that the horse was born and my mares specks are black and bay which means she could have ben born black or bay but when do they usually start greying out? |
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Barabia
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Posted - 10 Aug 2007 : 10:56:53 PM
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Most of them start to grey out before 3 y/o.. some a bit later but that's very, very unusually! The 'flies' usually comes at the age of 10-15.
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Edited by - Barabia on 10 Aug 2007 10:57:51 PM |
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moldequine
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Posted - 10 Aug 2007 : 11:18:28 PM
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| As im wondering if my mare is mc natalie jabask and has turned grey as she is very fleabitten, and her flies are black and bay and mc natalie jabask was a bay/black mare. |
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Barabia
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 : 12:16:45 AM
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Here is one of my breeding, born dark bay and showed sign of turning grey before 8 month old:
3 y/o
5 y/o
12 y/o
14 y/o (sorry for the quality!)
Bia
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beau
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 : 08:08:59 AM
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I would say yes,
when i bort my boy he was pure grey with just a bay splodge near wither he is now fleabitten and as said before more develop each year,
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Kerry Wilson
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 : 08:15:37 AM
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| A friend of mine had a PBA mare who was a clear proper bay until she was 10 or 12 and then started to go grey, when she died in her 20's she was a dark dapple grey like most greys would be at about 5 or 6. Quite strange. I've never seen another one go grey this late has anyone else? |
       
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Nimlat
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 : 08:24:48 AM
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| Moldequine - does your mare have a grey parent? If not at least one the offspring cannot go grey. (I'm presuming this is connected to the "unknown mares" recently queried ?) |
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bridie
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moldequine
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 : 10:24:38 AM
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| If she is mc natalie jabask then her dam is grey and her sire is bay |
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moldequine
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 : 10:25:40 AM
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| Its also very interesting that, mc natalie jabask is registered as bay and on one of her foals passports she is down as grey, right age for my mare too. |
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moldequine
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 : 10:27:43 AM
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| i have my markings ready to send off to compare with mc natalie. going to send the registered post this time! |
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Tahir
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 : 11:10:25 AM
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My mare as a 7mnth foal
As a "pink" yearling
And heavily fleabitten at 9yrs:
She was almost white at 3 and at 6 had a few fleabites, but at 9 the fleabites have almost taken over. They are mostly red with a few black ones here and there???
Carla, xx.
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Fee
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 : 11:38:08 AM
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Oh this topic is music to my ears! 
I'm so hoping Po turns very fleabitten like your mare Carla, she is gorgeous!!
Here is Po around 7. Sorry I have nothing younger...maybe Delyth does?
...this is her last summer at 10...you can see how lighter she is and she has bites on her head, jaw and a little starting at the top of the neck...and where did that big beauty spot come from??
...this is her a few weeks ago...she is much lighter this year with more fleabites on her face, down her neck and now some on her shoulders...although, sorry you can't see that, but just to show you the change in coat colour this year...
I'll try to get a close up one of her before her summer coat comes out, but what do you guys think? Will she go very fleabitten...please, please, please, please! and if so, how long might this take?
Fee
PS Her dam was grey and sire bay and her fleabites are brown.
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Judith S
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 : 12:16:56 PM
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| Sly (grey in my sig) was very dark - real brown/black for the first few years, then went through all the shades of dapple....he has gradually lightened up & at 14 he is really fleabitten Not sure if he will end up pure white like his sire? |
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Taylor
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 : 1:12:20 PM
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Here are pics of Frazer the stallion I was telling you about he has gone through a major transformation of colours.
and lastly at 9yrs old to show his fleabites, his dad on the right is totally fleabitten and he is 19 now.
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goldenballs
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 : 2:13:08 PM
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I have a 14monthe old colt out of a chestnut mare,flaxen mane and tail by a cremello that was born palomino, was more "dun" throughout winter, and who is gtting flacks of grey trough his coat now! I reckon will be grey at 10y old....
watch this space,,,,!!!!! |
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Barabia
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 : 2:42:06 PM
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He can't turn grey I think!? Chestnut & Cremello gives either Chestnut or Palomino, don't they??
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moldequine
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 : 3:22:17 PM
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| Very interesting that when they go fleabitten, the bites are the same colour as they were born eg. chestnut, bay and my mares bites are bay and black and sian said mc natalie jabask was a bay/black mare. |
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goldenballs
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 : 3:27:21 PM
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Barabia, Thats what I thought!! (Hence my boy,Icon!Same cremello sire out of chestnut arab also flaxon mane/tail)
Wont hijack this thread though...perhaps I should start a new one! |
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Tahir
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 : 4:24:35 PM
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Crikey Taylor, that is one of the most amazing colour transformations I have ever seen - are you sure it's the same horse LOL
Fee, I am sure Po will be a wonderful flea-bitten mare one day (in the not too distant future), and thank you, I love my girlie too. I can't believe her flea bites this year, they are amazing. Apparently they get more fleabites as they get older, she is only 9 and it will be so interesting to see what she'll be like at say 15!!! Perhaps she'll be pink again Incidentally, my mares sire is a lightly flea-bitten grey and her dam is dark bay/almost black???
Carla, xx. |
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Taylor
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 : 4:34:05 PM
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| LOL Carla, yes its hard to beleive isnt it, if it wasnt for his 3 white socks and his blaze you would never know |
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Libby Frost
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alix liddle
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Posted - 13 Aug 2007 : 9:09:47 PM
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My bay mare seems to be getting lots of white hairs mixed in all over the place. Her sire was Orashaan (grey) and dam Jiwana (Bay, still at 10, but I think Jiwana's sire was Maysoun (grey) if I remember rightly. Does anyone know whether greys are more prone to sunburn and melanomas and if so is it all greys or only "real" ones. Also 'scuse my ignorance but can arabs be born grey?
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moldequine
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Posted - 13 Aug 2007 : 9:33:39 PM
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| i KNOW GREY`S ARE MORE PRONE TO MELANOMAS AND ANYTHING WITH PINK SKIN IS PRONED TO SUNBURN AND MUDFEVER. NOT SURE ABOUT AN ARAB BEING BORN GREY, I DONT THINK THEY CAN BE BORN GREY I THINK THEY TURN GREY BUT MAY BE WRONG! |
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