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susan p
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Posted - 02 Jun 2007 :  7:54:04 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add susan p to your friends list Send susan p a Private Message
I have just got back from the yard and they have been spreading lime in the field with our horses in it,Stazi is covered in it!
Can anyone tell me anything about lime?
Thanks Susan


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Judith S
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Posted - 02 Jun 2007 :  7:59:19 PM  Show Profile  Visit Judith S's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Judith S to your friends list Send Judith S a Private Message
Susan - OH says they shouldn't lime a field with horses still in it - lime is caustic & can burn the skin - so please wash your horse off & remove your horse from the field until the lime has been washed in with rain!!!!

All horses should be removed from the limed field ASAP !!!!!





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Zan
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Posted - 02 Jun 2007 :  8:02:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit Zan's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Zan to your friends list Send Zan a Private Message
Oh no---this is bad news. Liming should never be done near horses---everything Judith says plus inhaled lime can cause respiratory problems---it is very irritant.
I would hose your horse down asap and definitely no horses in there till it is WELL rained in.

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Judith S
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Posted - 02 Jun 2007 :  8:08:29 PM  Show Profile  Visit Judith S's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Judith S to your friends list Send Judith S a Private Message
Heather - agree about the irritation to lungs also.

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susan p
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Posted - 02 Jun 2007 :  8:13:14 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add susan p to your friends list Send susan p a Private Message
Oh no
This is the new yard after all the problems with the last one I didnt want to say too much when I came up and saw tractor marks through the paddock I thought what now!Why do YOs not have the decency to let you know when they are doing things affecting your horses
She came into the shop and apparently told my daughter they had spread lime and not to worry that it is perfectly safe,just thought I would ask,now Im worried about him and have had wine so cant drive,do you think it would be okay to wash him tomorrow and will he need to be moved??


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Judith S
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Posted - 02 Jun 2007 :  8:31:39 PM  Show Profile  Visit Judith S's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Judith S to your friends list Send Judith S a Private Message
Susan - if he was mine - I would be moving him right now - OH says horses should NOT be on a freshly limed field!!!! Can you get someone to take you to the yard to move him onto an unlimed field??? Thats if there are any unlimed fields at your new yard...or have they limed them all??? & also to wash him off thoroughly!!!!



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Posted - 02 Jun 2007 :  8:37:23 PM  Show Profile  Visit Judith S's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Judith S to your friends list Send Judith S a Private Message
OH has just said to check what they have limed with - he's not sure if there might be types that are OK to do with stock in the fields???Can you check with the yard owner?


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susan p
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Posted - 02 Jun 2007 :  8:54:45 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add susan p to your friends list Send susan p a Private Message
Judith
Thanks for that,I have just phoned YO and she says its horse friendly,she has limed all the fields,so there would be nowhere to put them any way!
I just hope that my house sells soon so I can have my own ground,very fed up with livery yards!
Will be up early to wash him tomorrow and its raining,so I suppose that will help!


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Zan
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Posted - 03 Jun 2007 :  08:53:32 AM  Show Profile  Visit Zan's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Zan to your friends list Send Zan a Private Message
Just got back to this. I hope I am wrong, but I can't imagine there is such a thing as horse friendly lime. Lime is lime---it's not like other things that might have a recipe, it is a sole ingredient if you know what I mean. Your YO may be making that assumption because she has done it before and got away with it---maybe it has always rained just after. If it has been raining heavily there is less likely to be any damage,so I hope it has. Horses grazing on newly limed grass in a hot sunny day inhaling all that very fine dust just doesn't bear thinking about

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Judith S
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Posted - 03 Jun 2007 :  09:28:12 AM  Show Profile  Visit Judith S's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Judith S to your friends list Send Judith S a Private Message
Originally posted by Zan

Just got back to this. I hope I am wrong, but I can't imagine there is such a thing as horse friendly lime. Lime is lime---it's not like other things that might have a recipe, it is a sole ingredient if you know what I mean. Your YO may be making that assumption because she has done it before and got away with it---maybe it has always rained just after. If it has been raining heavily there is less likely to be any damage,so I hope it has. Horses grazing on newly limed grass in a hot sunny day inhaling all that very fine dust just doesn't bear thinking about


Quite Zan.....OH was being cautious...as perhaps there is an animal friendly product now....but doubtful as as you say lime is lime!!

Now waiting to hear from Susan....I do hope her horse is OK!

Judith

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Big Mover
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Posted - 03 Jun 2007 :  1:14:16 PM  Show Profile  Click to see Big Mover's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add Big Mover to your friends list Send Big Mover a Private Message
I no a fair bit about lime - I used to work for RMC Industrial Minerals, now the lime that is used on fields (aggricultural lime)is usually a lime flour which is limestone crushed into a powder - totally safe (but I would never spread it in a field with horses or any other stock in it).The real dangerous stuff is Burnt Limestone thats been through a kiln this called "Quicklime" nasty stuff an irratant and so powerfull it neutralises acid etc. Then theres "Hydrated Lime" this is Quicklime thats been mixed with water (the same stuff you use for white washing)when quicklime is added to water it gets so hot it will boil the water and literally dry its self out (hence why its called Hydrated Lime) this stuff is still fairly powerfull and can irritate skin - but is alot safer then Quicklime.

I have never actually heard or sold - delivered any of the nasty stuff above for spreading onto fields - but depeneding on what kind of ground you graze on depends on what kind of lime the merchant recommends, you can even get Magnesium lime for ground that maybe low in Magnesium.

Just a quick thought - if you have ever fed or bought limestone flour (most feed merchants stock it) this stuff is very very similar to what is spread on grazing land. I hope this helps


Sarah x

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Judith S
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Posted - 03 Jun 2007 :  1:59:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit Judith S's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Judith S to your friends list Send Judith S a Private Message
Thanks Sarah for the info!

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Posted - 03 Jun 2007 :  8:13:23 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add polly to your friends list Send polly a Private Message
I have just spoken to the local contractor-lime-spreader and he said " DON'T PANIC"
the kind of lime used for this kind of spreading is to bring up the Ph in the soil..as Sarah said...and although he would not like to spread it in a field full uf horses, because he knows that ANY fine dust can cause coughing..he wife has horses....he said it is not like the hydrated stuff that is irritant/dangerous. SO....not ideal situation as the horses are already covered in dust but nothing scary, enjoy the rest of your wine, and hope the rain will wash it all in tonight.polly


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Judith S
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Posted - 03 Jun 2007 :  8:18:37 PM  Show Profile  Visit Judith S's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Judith S to your friends list Send Judith S a Private Message
Polly - thats good news....but if I had been in Susans situation I would NOT have been very happy for my neds to remain in the fields while the lime was being spread.(harmless or not)....NOT an ideal situation!


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Zan
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Posted - 04 Jun 2007 :  09:06:10 AM  Show Profile  Visit Zan's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Zan to your friends list Send Zan a Private Message
Polly that is reassuring but I personally would be furious if lime was spread in a field with my horses in it. Horses' respiration systems are vulnerable to any dust---lime is extremely fine dust and anything inhaled is irritant and lime even more so. The horses were covered in it

Hope there is lots of rain to wash it in properly.

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susan p
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Posted - 04 Jun 2007 :  5:49:37 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add susan p to your friends list Send susan p a Private Message
Thanks Judith,Zan,Sarah and Polly
I washed him yesterday,stabled him and then put him out with his turnout rug on,the rain has been non stop untill today,so I guess it all washed away.
All of the fields were spread with the horses in them,must say Im not happy about it but he seems fine and YO was doing that you mad arab owner looking down her nose at me thing when I asked about it


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Judith S
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Posted - 04 Jun 2007 :  6:01:30 PM  Show Profile  Visit Judith S's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Judith S to your friends list Send Judith S a Private Message
Susan - so pleased to hear he's OK!!! Thank goodness you've had lots of rain to wash it in!

Judith

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Zan
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Posted - 04 Jun 2007 :  7:27:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit Zan's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Zan to your friends list Send Zan a Private Message
Glad to have rain for once Glad he is okay. YO could learn a thing or two from you about caring for her horses so she can look down her nose all she wants.Stupid of her to take unneccessary risks.

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Judith S
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Posted - 04 Jun 2007 :  7:35:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit Judith S's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Judith S to your friends list Send Judith S a Private Message
Exactly Zan!!!!

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