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Vera
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Posted - 27 Apr 2007 :  9:53:02 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Vera to your friends list Send Vera a Private Message
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8Ojqw35zsw&mode=related&search=



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Judith S
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Posted - 27 Apr 2007 :  10:02:37 PM  Show Profile  Visit Judith S's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Judith S to your friends list Send Judith S a Private Message
Oh Vera....I have just watched that and am totally sickened......poor bloody horses suffering - all in the name of entertainment for humans

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Lori
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Posted - 27 Apr 2007 :  10:36:48 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lori to your friends list Send Lori a Private Message
Absolutely disgusting. Doesn't it just get you so mad to see this kind of abuse to these beautiful animals.


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rhoni
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Posted - 27 Apr 2007 :  11:08:18 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rhoni to your friends list Send rhoni a Private Message
Oops, have I missed something here? That looked like a well-trained horse doing what it was trained to do. There are lots of people who think that anyone who "owns" or "rides" a horse is, by definition, cruel. Judge not lest ye be judged.

Edited by - rhoni on 27 Apr 2007 11:25:57 PM
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jaj
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Posted - 27 Apr 2007 :  11:33:47 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaj to your friends list Send jaj a Private Message
They looked like two very miserable horses to me

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rhoni
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Posted - 28 Apr 2007 :  12:26:09 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rhoni to your friends list Send rhoni a Private Message
Jen, so do most dressage horses to most people, especially if they're tail- swishing. Depends who's watching. We got 2 pups last year - they were miserable too, cos someone chopped their tail off. I'm still hating that one
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rhoni
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Posted - 28 Apr 2007 :  12:39:57 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rhoni to your friends list Send rhoni a Private Message
And, by the way, I would love to do Endurance, especially because people say that our horses are good at Endurance - I say my horses are really really pretty and really really well-bred and they can endure you - if you have a problem with that you can do the proverbial!
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rhoni
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Posted - 28 Apr 2007 :  01:07:24 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rhoni to your friends list Send rhoni a Private Message
Sorry, rant over
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rhoni
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Posted - 28 Apr 2007 :  01:22:51 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rhoni to your friends list Send rhoni a Private Message
Actually, no, rant will never be over, I tell my farrier and my dentist, they don't care about their cobs and their standardbreds but they do sometimes worry about their Ayrabs.....those beautiful, standstill girls...
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rhoni
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Posted - 28 Apr 2007 :  01:25:47 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rhoni to your friends list Send rhoni a Private Message
Too much gin, my apologies...
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Vera
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Posted - 28 Apr 2007 :  09:10:15 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vera to your friends list Send Vera a Private Message
You must be really on the Gin if you think those horses are well trained


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Zan
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Posted - 28 Apr 2007 :  09:15:02 AM  Show Profile  Visit Zan's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Zan to your friends list Send Zan a Private Message
I don't know how anyone could defend this. The poor horse shaking its head with the line round its front leg looked like it was being tortured and they all looked thoroughly miserable. Disgusting.

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Vera
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Posted - 28 Apr 2007 :  09:19:21 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vera to your friends list Send Vera a Private Message
I found this on another site

"The horse is fitted with fringies and boots that have straps on them, these straps are tightened very very tight, this starts a pins and needles effect, the straps are losened and this starts the pain that you feel after the pins and needles, when the horse starts to move properly the process starts again."



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alethea
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Posted - 28 Apr 2007 :  09:27:12 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alethea to your friends list Send alethea a Private Message
Ive just watched that and to be honest im totally disgusted
Anyone with half a brain can see those horses are miserable, probably in alot of pain and have probably lost the will to live!
That cannot be justified as entertainment in any way, shape or form. Its abuse!
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Judith S
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Posted - 28 Apr 2007 :  09:35:42 AM  Show Profile  Visit Judith S's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Judith S to your friends list Send Judith S a Private Message
http://ZebraTalk.com/video/dancing_horses.wmv

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Vera
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Posted - 28 Apr 2007 :  10:00:30 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vera to your friends list Send Vera a Private Message
Well trained - MY ARSE!!!!!!!!


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rhoni
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Posted - 28 Apr 2007 :  11:29:21 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rhoni to your friends list Send rhoni a Private Message
Yes indeed Vera, point taken! Sorry, I had to endure a couple of stories about starved mange-riddled horses and puppies last night and when I saw the vid I couldn't see any sores or ribs. No justification for anything like this. Sorry again, I looked back at my posts and none of them make any sense at all, I was upset about other things. Best, Rhoni xx
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jaj
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Posted - 28 Apr 2007 :  11:29:22 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaj to your friends list Send jaj a Private Message
Rhoni, I totally agree re some dressage horses and a multitude of other very unhappy animals, but those 'dancing' horses really look like they would rather be dead than doing those 'dances'. I spent years travelling in India, Africa etc and saw many animals being asked to perform degrading acts ~ one of the worst being 'dancing' bears unhappiness oozed from every pore of their being and I felt ashamed to the pit of my stomach to be human and in a sense part of their torment . I felt the same when I looked at this sickening horse abuse, Vera is spot on with her thread title because abuse is what it is.

Jen




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jaj
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Posted - 28 Apr 2007 :  11:34:00 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaj to your friends list Send jaj a Private Message
Rhoni, we crossed posts ! There are so many upsetting things it is true and sorry that you were feeling down when you posted last night. I think some of the worst cruelty is mental torture though, it didn't escape my attention that the Pakistani horses looked fed well enough, but god only knows how they trained them to do what they are doing and their eyes and ears, general body language tell you everything about the sheer misery of what they are enduring .

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rhoni
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Posted - 28 Apr 2007 :  11:34:02 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rhoni to your friends list Send rhoni a Private Message
Hi Jen,

I remember seeing a bear chained to a pavement in Romania and the look in its eyes will haunt me forever. And the little mongrel puppies with no hair at all hanging out at the railway station broke my heart too. I've got 6 rescued dogs at the farm too. I actually haven't had the bottle to look at the vid again to see what I missed last night. Sorry, I'm a bit miserable at the mo xx
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rhoni
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Posted - 28 Apr 2007 :  11:35:14 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rhoni to your friends list Send rhoni a Private Message
Crossed posts again!
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jaj
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Posted - 28 Apr 2007 :  11:35:32 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaj to your friends list Send jaj a Private Message
Don't watch it again Rhoni, it will only deepen your melancholy. Sorry that you are feeling low, hope you soon feel a bit more cheery .

Jen




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jaj
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Posted - 28 Apr 2007 :  11:36:49 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaj to your friends list Send jaj a Private Message
and again

Jen




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leezee26
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Posted - 28 Apr 2007 :  12:08:41 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add leezee26 to your friends list Send leezee26 a Private Message
I think I managed 20 seconds of it! Yes the horse I saw looked healthy enough, but I dread to think what the owner tied where to train it! It reminded me of the bear dances..But we could have it completely wrong and it could be trained kindly....but I doubt it...Leigh
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Nikkisian89
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Posted - 28 Apr 2007 :  6:00:45 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Nikkisian89 to your friends list Send Nikkisian89 a Private Message
I think its sick and unnatural, especially the video Judith posted. Couldn't stand to watch it, it's just sick, those horses must get worked down to the ground
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Big Mover
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Posted - 28 Apr 2007 :  7:31:08 PM  Show Profile  Click to see Big Mover's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add Big Mover to your friends list Send Big Mover a Private Message
Ive just posted my comments on Youtube about this VIDEO - I would like to make the little swine handling the horse dance.....with a bloody cattle prod firmly fixed where the sun dosent shine. Poor horses, it makes me sick

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