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Adara_Arabians
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 England
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 Posted - 24 Apr 2007 : 10:46:34 PM
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I have a 14h cob type gelding, he is nine years old and was cut around three weeks ago. For obvious reasons i am concernd about turning him out so he is in a small paddock at the moment away from other horses. Later in the summer he can be put in a better field with more grass but next door to a gelding. My yard owner (has done breeding courses) said that it would take around nine weeks for him to settle down to be a gelding but i have always been a firm beliver/told that although it will quieten them down it may not necessarily mean he can be treated like a gelding and may never be able to be turned out with company.
In other peoples experinces what is correct, i guess every horse is different but this is the first time i have had something cut at such a late age?
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tamila
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England
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Posted - 25 Apr 2007 : 06:36:58 AM
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| I had my stallion cut at 8 and altjhough it took longer than 9 weeks for him to settle he was quite alright to go out with geldings and mares. In fact he went out with his yearling son. The only horse he could not run with for some time was my other gelding as they were fighting for supremacy. |
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jaybird
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Posted - 25 Apr 2007 : 06:51:43 AM
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Lauren
You are right, my stallion was gelded at 7 years, and although he had never covered I could not put him with another gelding as the stallion trait still arises, he is Ok with his shetland mare companion but I'm not sure about another male, he has been gelded now for 7 years. I do know of many stallions that have gelding companions so I think this is an individual situation which you will have to try out little by little, but watch him for a while because it's when the playing gets out of hand that dangerous situations occur.
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Adara_Arabians
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England
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Posted - 25 Apr 2007 : 07:42:39 AM
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Its very hard to evaluate the situation with him, he is so quiet to handle and not at all nippy or have many other stallion trates, only that when he is close to another horse he can turn.
Like yesterday, i was walking him past a field down the lane which had three horses in it, they come to the fence, he refused to move as i assume he wanted to meet them. He then arches his neck, roars and kicks out his front feet (which just miss me). The problem is this poor fella is a traditional cob coloured with a lot of weight behind him although he is very light weight he is head strong. He come from Pikey's and has lived on a stump chain all his life and been driven so very possible they used him for coverings at some point. He is a stunning boy and lovely natured I would love to see him settle so he can live a normal happy life as a gelding. |
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Sarahw
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England
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Posted - 25 Apr 2007 : 08:12:45 AM
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We had a stallion gelded at 9 - I think we left him about 3 months but he is fine with other geldings.
I think alot depends on temperament and how they were before. A more dominant stallion will take longer to settle as a gelding and will probably continue to be the more dominant one. |
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Jilly
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England
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Posted - 25 Apr 2007 : 11:07:35 AM
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Hi, this is a bit like how longs a piece of string, my cob, now 15, was cut at 4, and I am still very cautious, he can be a right sod in mixed company and if he's not top dog he becomes very depressed. I am very lucky to be on a private yard now, where the owner and I discuss and Analise everything we do, so Warrior is very happy not having to fight for supremacy, but at 15 he would still fight to keep his harem together.
I think all mares or all geldings is safer initially, and then see how he goes, good luck. |
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jaybird
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France
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Posted - 25 Apr 2007 : 12:11:57 PM
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Lauren
Is it possible to put him in a field next to say single sexed horses, to see how he behaves, it may take a little time but at least if they are not in bodily contact no harm can be done it also gives him time to learn how to socialise which is what he has been deprived of on a chain, same as being boxed up I suppose but they need to learn all over again, I am also suprised that you managed to get a travellers horse as they do pride themselves in horse ownership and value a breeding stallion.
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tamila
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England
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Posted - 25 Apr 2007 : 2:02:51 PM
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| My boy had covered and run with his mares. He has quite a few offspring. |
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madmare
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England
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Posted - 25 Apr 2007 : 6:15:15 PM
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My YO's show hnter gelding wasn't cut until he was 7..but had never covered. He now has his 'harem' of the girls, but was turned out with YO's elderly gelding, Jim, who died a few years ago, quite happily. he does show off, but nothing major.
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barbie
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England
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Posted - 25 Apr 2007 : 6:43:41 PM
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| Arimis was cut at 9,he had covered but only ever kept with other males, he turned out with other males a few weeks after being cut and was never a problem. |
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egzotyka
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England
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Posted - 25 Apr 2007 : 11:22:46 PM
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| i no of two that were cut late and within 3 months fine to go out with mares and gelding just not each other! |
   
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Adara_Arabians
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England
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Posted - 26 Apr 2007 : 08:04:23 AM
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What I am going to do is let him stay at another yard for a few weeks. Its my friends yard and has the right fencing and also good mud pens he can stand in next to other horses but without being able to jump in with them. Then i will go slowly from there. The reason i didnt want to do this at my yard is because the field they intended to put him in next to a gelding and two larmas have got Barbwire fencing so need i say any more.
Jay - yes im not sure how long the travellers had him and knew nothing about him. He wasnt in bad condition when i got him but he has clear marks and a huge indent on his face where a headcollare was on to tight as a foal. That will never come right. I have just bought him back in and back into work now with a view of ride/driving him this summer while my mare is out foaling and Tamina is away.
Thanks all for advice i will update you on how he goes in a few weeks time. |
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 26 Apr 2007 : 1:41:31 PM
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I lost my old gelding at almost 31 a few years ago. He was a stallion until he was 8 and covered mares right up until he was cut. I wanted to buy a gelding and the people who had Lanta wanted a good permanent home for him so he was cut and then came to me a week later.
He went out with my other gelding a couple of months after I had him (I didn't have any other horses then) but later went out with the gelding plus my mares and foals. we called him "Uncle Lanta" as he was so good and patient with the foals who leapt all over him. The other gelding was cut before two (I bought him then but don't know when he was cut) and he was the dominant one and the other horses give him a wide berth. He nearly killed my colt when he was 18 months old, he must have cornered him the field and kicked the living daylights out of him; broken jaw, teeth gone, three legs kicked in, it was touch and go whether he survived. They had been together since the colt was born. The ex-stallion would never have done anything like that, totally different temperament.
I also had a 5 year old stallion cut and he has gone as a riding horse and is out in a field of geldings at the DIY livery yard and he is fine.
Good luck with your boy, just be careful and keep a close eye on them for a while.
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leezee26
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England
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Posted - 26 Apr 2007 : 11:36:48 PM
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| Hi I had a Cobx cut at 9 years and he had served several mares. He was a rescue and no-one wanted him as he was a stallion and as I didnt own my own land no-one would then let me keep an entire so I had to have him gelded. He was in a dreadful state when I first took him on so I left it till he regained good health but he came through it well and after a couple of months he was turned out with my other geldings then after 6 months I turned him out with my mare. He was always a gent, although a friend brought her Welshy up to me after a good year of having him as a gelding and he did actually mount her! Fortunately nothing came of it!! Best of luck with your boy. Lx |
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