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Qui Gon Jinn
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Posted - 18 Apr 2007 :  5:58:20 PM  Show Profile  Visit Qui Gon Jinn's Homepage Bookmark this topic Add Qui Gon Jinn to your friends list Send Qui Gon Jinn a Private Message
Hi guys,

Are any of you qualified as equine aromatherapists? I am a human therapist and just wanted to pick the brain of someone with a bit more experience in the equine field for something I am trying to treat!!

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ella
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Posted - 18 Apr 2007 :  6:56:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ella to your friends list Send ella a Private Message
How does one become an equine aromatherapist?

I understood aromatherapy in animals was classed as an "invasive" treatment, along with homeopathy & acupuncture, and hence can only be performed by a qualified Veterinary Surgeon.



"If an 'alternative treatment' has reliable effect it becomes classified simply as MEDICINE" D.B.
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Qui Gon Jinn
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Posted - 18 Apr 2007 :  9:49:07 PM  Show Profile  Visit Qui Gon Jinn's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Qui Gon Jinn to your friends list Send Qui Gon Jinn a Private Message
I think you progress on from being qualified to treat humans!! I know that Caroline Ingraham in Hereford used to run courses on Aromatherapy for animals but I'm not sure if she still does or indeed if the vets recognised it as a qualification?!

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ella
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Posted - 19 Apr 2007 :  09:05:38 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ella to your friends list Send ella a Private Message
See paragraph 17


http://www.rcvs.org.uk/Templates/Internal.asp?NodeID=92572&int2ndParentNodeID=89737&int1stParentNodeID=89642#complementary



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Qui Gon Jinn
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Posted - 19 Apr 2007 :  09:56:25 AM  Show Profile  Visit Qui Gon Jinn's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Qui Gon Jinn to your friends list Send Qui Gon Jinn a Private Message
Understood, and yet there are lots of alternative therapists out there treating animals!! I spoke to my own vet about this and he said it was a very grey area, since alternative therapists are not administering any drugs or stitching wounds etc. My Insurance company has an add on (which I've paid for), for Alternative therapy - if recommended by a vet. So at that, it would appear that there are vets that agree with Alternative treatment? My vet, when he was based in England did recommend shiatsu to an Equine Client of his, and a practitioner was found for this purpose.

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Edited by - Qui Gon Jinn on 19 Apr 2007 09:57:28 AM
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anne
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Posted - 19 Apr 2007 :  12:19:13 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add anne to your friends list Send anne a Private Message
Just had a women in doing Bowan therapy on Tara with the full knowledge and consent from my vet.



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ella
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Posted - 19 Apr 2007 :  1:48:01 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ella to your friends list Send ella a Private Message
Paragraphs 15 & 16 above allow for Bowen therapy etc (manipulative therapies), but any Aromatherapy administered to an animal other than by a vet is illegal. Aromatics is legal if the animal simply smells the essential oil, as to some extent he has choice about this, but the administering of toxic oils topically or in food is not.

Your insurance will not cover illegal activites!
Alternative treatments commonly covered included physiotherapy, ultrasound/laser for wound healing, massage, acupuncture/homeopathy/aromatherapy by an MRCVS etc.



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Qui Gon Jinn
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Posted - 19 Apr 2007 :  4:20:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit Qui Gon Jinn's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Qui Gon Jinn to your friends list Send Qui Gon Jinn a Private Message
I'm not getting quite why you seem upset about this topic. I am quite within my right to treat my own horses with aromatherapy and have done so very successfully for years. I started this topic only asked for the advice and opinions from someone else who, perhaps has more years experience in treating their own horses than I do. I do not wish to get into a debate as to the legalities of horses being treated by any alternative therapy!

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Pauline
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Posted - 19 Apr 2007 :  5:14:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit Pauline's Homepage  Click to see Pauline's MSN Messenger address  Send Pauline a Yahoo! Message Bookmark this reply Add Pauline to your friends list Send Pauline a Private Message
I am an equine Holistic therapist and as part of my work I will use Aromatherapy oils.

I work with the permission of vets,often being asked by them to go and see a client.

As a human complementary therapist you are not allowed to work on animals. Theer are course that you can take and insurance companies that will insure you.

Pauline Higgs
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ella
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Posted - 19 Apr 2007 :  5:38:44 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ella to your friends list Send ella a Private Message
I'm not "upset" Qui Gon Jinn, simply curious as to how people go about training & setting themselves up to carry out a practice currently illegal!
Many people are perhaps being scammed to pay for "training" that they can't legally use as part of their business and don't know the dangers of?
I'm sure most readers would rather know so they can stay within the law.

As an aside though, aromatherapy has resulted in the death of 2 cats under my care, administered by their owners. Unfortunately, many mistakenly believe alternative therapies to be harmless and do not research thoroughly.



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Qui Gon Jinn
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Posted - 19 Apr 2007 :  5:52:29 PM  Show Profile  Visit Qui Gon Jinn's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Qui Gon Jinn to your friends list Send Qui Gon Jinn a Private Message
Aromatherpy is VERY dangerous and I have never given oils orally to my horses, merely allowing them to smell the oils and choose what they prefer themselves. Even at that I will offer the oil to them to smell for a further 3 or 4 days before I would use it on them. I've found that most of the time they respond in a positive way purely by inhaliation. If not then I always dilute the oils well in either aloe gel or a carrier oil before use.

I would agree with you Ella on your comment:

Many people are perhaps being scammed to pay for "training" that they can't legally use as part of their business and don't know the dangers of?
I'm sure most readers would rather know so they can stay within the law.


As I was concerned about this when I did consider paying rather a large amount of money to Caroline Ingraham for a training course of hers a few years ago. It was a worry that you didn't seem to have any recognised qualification at the end of it! OR indeed one that was legal!

I have been a qualified human aromtherapist for 5 years now, but have been playing with the emotional treatment of my own horses for about 8 years. I would certainly never use aromatherapy to try and treat anything that I wasn't sure of!

I assume Ella you are either a vet or work at a vets practice, which is why you obviously feel strongly about this. Please be assured that I am not planning to start up a practice and endanger the lives of any animals!

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