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shah
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 Posted - 16 Apr 2007 : 09:56:09 AM
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Sorry guys but I need to have a moan! I've been trying to sort out our no-transport problem for months but not getting any closer to a solution. This is now getting to me and I'm even thinking about giving up altogether if I can't find a solution soon
I can't have a trailer as I don't have a car that can tow. For a variety of reasons I can't change cars and get a 4x4. So my only option is a lorry. There is a 12tn lorry on the yard but I don't have an HGV licence, it's an old lorry that doesn't go very far and I don't think I'd be able to borrow it anyway. The YO is fed up with taking us places and we don't go to the same rides/events as they do.
So buying a lorry. Well, I don't want to pay too much. I mean, come on, who'd spend tens of thousands of pounds on a lorry for a HOBBY! It's ridiculous. I know we've got an expensive hobby but this is taking things too far in my opinion. In any case, who here is rich enough to just go out and spend 10k on a lorry without thinking twice
So I'm left with the options:
- buy old lorry (I've been to see two, one was rusty everywhere, probably ready to fall to pieces soon, the other one juddered as soon as it got to 40mph and you had to stand on the brakes to stop the lorry, and that's without a horse inside) but I have a real safety concern about putting my buy in an old lorry and then travel an hour or two to a ride on my own...
- hire self-drive lorry, there is only one to hire close to where I am, it's a 7.5tn, which I don't like driving, but I'm trying it out later this week, in any case it's booked on half the dates I need it this year so I'm still left in the lurch...
- book a transporter, well, if you go for an endurance ride you're out most of the day, as they all charge between 15 and 35 pounds an hour waiting time plus mileage plus call out charge, it works out very expensive for just one day out, multiply that with 5 rides and we're back to ridiculous sums!!!
Sorry for having a moan but this is really doing my head in. Maybe I should just face the reality, I can't afford it, I should just give up.
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Cassie
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England
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 : 10:37:04 AM
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Hi
I'am not sure where you live nor if this would help but my friend has a lorry for sale it is really easy to drive she always has it well maintain it is 7.5ton takes 3 15hh comfortably has living and tack area she doesn't really want to sell it as she she so attached to it but she knows she has to sell because she dosen't use it enough it does need some costmetic attention. The problem is it is in Norfolk and she would like £8500.
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shah
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England
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 : 12:52:11 PM
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| Thanks Cassie for letting me know. Bit too far as I'm down in Sussex, also a bit too expensive... |
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sazzlepants71
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 : 1:49:50 PM
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hiya shah , firstly i know how frustrating it is getting transport!
okay i have a lorry - its a bedford a wrkhorse! goes on like the duracell bunny!
the good points are it take 2 horses its non -hgv its also...tax exempt!
yup, its nearly as old as me! BUT it does have living cooker ,heater etc sleeping and a cut-through cab ! this lorry cost me £2000 4 years ago - a bargain really
so they are out there, the bad thing is its only 4 cylinder which means its slower especially on hills bless it and to be honest now we have another addition we really need a bigger lorry
anyway i have no idea what your budget is but you can pick a reasonable lorry up for under £4,000 perhaps even less
dont give up bedfords are usually a good buy,  they are reliable but do go for a 6 cylinder , ford cargo's are good & iveco's as well
dodge 50 diesals with the smiths engine are good un's as well ( i used to have one )
but i am now on my 3rd bedford so there you go!
have you tried looking on horsemart? there are lots on there..also horse & hound..one thing though dont get a transit! they are a bit too wobbly for the bigger horse rather than a pony occupent!
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tt
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England
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 : 4:43:33 PM
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Hiya Shah,If it makes you feel any better what so ever im the same dont worry and dont give up!!!Pick the dates/events youd really like to go to then hire,ive only picked two events as its sooo expensive to hire a 7.5 wagon then i walk 3 miles each month to the local riding club show.The rest of the shows i just go and spectate and whinge at no longer being able to participate, and hopefully eventually will be able to buy another horsebox.(although me and horsey vehicles i really shouldnt)
Here's my story (sorry for pinching your thread and im not after sympathy honest, now at the point that i know nothing else can go wrong..its laughable)
Took a loan and went with my dad to buy a horsebox 3.5t i said when looking the horse wont fit but listened to my dad (men Supposedly being better at measuring..NOT)the horse didnt fit so part exed it with a 7.5t horsebox taking out another loan to fund it all brilliant until 1 yr after buying it it breaks down needing a new chassis sent it off to the mechanics to fix but...7 wks after being at his place it is stolen to cut a very very long story shorter because im honest i tell insurance company everything 8 months later after being investigated twice insurance pay out but only pay out as much as i paid for the 3.5t.Then decided cant afford another horsebox so bought a discovery then hire a trailer when needed,guess what horses wont travel in a trailer tried to go over the breast bar.So try to sell 4x4 but two weeks ago the reverse gear goes and its an automatic which is going to cost more to fix than what ill get for it so now its going on ebay for parts.
The moral of my story 1.Dont take out a loan for a horsebox 2.Dont rush into buying something that wont be suitable in the long run 3.IM definately no good with vehicles.
Dont give up theres always something else you can do instead,in the meantime just keep looking and dont let it get you down i wont.
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alkarif
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 : 4:57:39 PM
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Good Luck on your quest for a lorry! I Agree with Sazzlepants about Transits, bit too much Rock'n'Roll for me, not bad for shettie's or dinkies, but sure my babes would get motion sickness and an aversion to travelling!
There are lorries out and about, reasonably priced, try ads at your local tack shop they tend to be cheaper when not advertised in the press. Also walk round the lorries at shows, sale notices are often posted in the window. Horse & Hound usually have top of the budget types, even if they are not always top of the budget condition. Travelled the country and seen some right wrecks - believe me! Real scrappers, 'Mein horsey not goin' in that type of wreck! lorry. Strange how regular the telephone description has no resemblance to the actual lorry they show you, or the pictures they send, usually taken when it was new 100+ years ago.
Horseboxes occasionally go through Commercial Vehicle Auctions, for all sorts of reasons, and you can really get a bargain if you know what to check before bidding. A good buy is ex-police horseboxes, well maintained and obviously legal to weight confinements, usually HGV though.
I'm a believer that if it is meant to be it will find you. So don't give up. Don't worry about the age as long as it is sound, and a lick of paint works wonders. It would be very nice to have one of those posher than posh lorries but the quality you are carrying inside is worth far more.
Keep us informed on your search, I'll bet you will have lots of tales to tell, most of all Good Luck.
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Moira
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Scotland
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 : 5:52:11 PM
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I bought a lorry years ago and got it converted. It cost £2000 for the lorry - an 11 year old cargo and £1500 to have it converted. It was cheaper than buying a horsebox and had the added bonus of the ramp & partitions all being brand new and not 11 year old like the lorry. I sold it after 2 years and got £3200 for it. I now have a Fourtrak & trailer but I miss my lorry and would love another one.
Just had another thought. Why not just buy a trailer & 4x4 and keep your existing car. It probably costs more to plate/tax a lorry than a 4x4 anyway so it might work our cheaper and solve your transport problems.
Moira
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