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zoew37
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 Posted - 21 Jan 2004 : 9:07:54 PM
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Hi im needing some advice on a horse. Hes a 15.1hh 9 y o tbx. He works lovely on the flat, nice jump but bucks and has been known on more than the odd occassion to rear. I was wondering what price you would put on him? Hes nice in the stable, from what i know he doesnt hack out great, and jumps about outdoors. He also wouldnt be suited to say the show ring as his conformation isnt brillant, and has a ugly head. Any advice would be great. thankyou
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Lisa
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Posted - 21 Jan 2004 : 9:39:33 PM
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| A good home and a chance in life preferably but deffinately less than £500. |
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zoew37
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Scotland
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Posted - 22 Jan 2004 : 7:45:02 PM
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Think the owner wanted about £4000, the problem is we both know he isnt worth it but as hes at a riding stable they have to get something to replace him. I know he would be super one to one
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Lisa
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Jan 2004 : 8:35:35 PM
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| Thats some expensive riding school if their horses cost £4000! |
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zoew37
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Scotland
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Posted - 22 Jan 2004 : 8:45:42 PM
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Thinks they are worth things they are not. Just this horse wasnt bought by him but the manager they had then. Hes a performance horse and its blowing his brains out there. He would have made a super jnr eventer something like that. But i think he cost a bit when they bought him. so i think he has to re coup the money he spent. Nothing to do with the gact the poor beast has a 3-4 hour work load every day
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Wyllow
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Jan 2004 : 12:04:46 AM
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This price issue never fails to amaze me.
I don't begrudge paying good money for a good horse.
BUT having said that...
I was given a King of Diamonds IDx TB, possibly I'll never see his likes again in terms of sheer majesty in a horse. The only reason I never kept him was that he was ENORMOUS and I'm only 5'2". I gave him away for a song as I wanted a specific home for him and had only accepted him to school on and rehome.
I paid £100 for Milly when she was still quite sick...bless her ~ A token payment for the dearest and the best because her owner wanted her to come to me and I insisted on paying after the one before!
I could go on about bargain horses and at least one "rip off" I suffered, but I think the point is made.
As I said, I don't begrudge a fair price for a nice horse...but every now and then something unbelievable comes along for a penny or two...but NOT as often as something is sold for an over inflated price!
Most are fair, a few are out for the most they can get...and some, well some just find it hard to put a price on a friend.
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Vygoda
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United Arab Emirates
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Posted - 23 Jan 2004 : 07:54:45 AM
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Don't you also all think that the market dictates the price?
And what in the end a buyer will pay sets the price benchmark?
Too, not so much about dealers as about breeders, and as said in another thread, it costs a lot of money to get a foal on the ground. Breeders should ask themselves what they think the horse will sell for but if it doesn't sell at the asking price, are they prepared to keep it?
And for breeders, why breed if you don't sell, as you then just become a collector and don't move forward? IMO, surely serious breeders have to go through a continual selection process on what they decide to keep and what they sell to try to improve on every generation? That's the hope anyway  .
And .......... I can never understand why anyone buys from dealers. Surely you need to see, if possible - sire and dam and brothers and sisters, aunts and uncles when you're buying. And often, dealers don't have the paperwork for the horse and you are then left in a big mess trying to register the horse, and that's only if you ever can ever find out who your horse really is and isn't 'Lord of Flight' or whatever name he's sold under?   .
Jane
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suneanarab
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Jan 2004 : 10:40:25 AM
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sounds to me that, unless you are willing to risk yourself, and spend many months/years dealing with this horses phsyc probs, this horse is probably best left alone.
he is a give away horse, yes pay a token price for him, but no-one in their right mind would pay £4000 for him. the market is weak as it is, concider what you could spend your money on, and then relate it to this horse. i'm sure he needs a good home, but be realistic about what you can offer him, and you need to make your mind up as to what you will do with him if you can't help him. we usually end up with these horses coming as a last stop on the way to the knaker man. they are hard work and often a danger to themselves and the people around them. i see from your siganture that you have a child, can you afford for this horse to put you out of action.
if he's not to bad, and you have the experience, you could take the risk, but also can you risk any money on him?
suzanne walsh
 
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joe
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Posted - 23 Jan 2004 : 10:44:30 AM
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| i think a horse is only worth what a buyer is willing to pay for it. Someone might be willing to put up with the occasional buck or rear if the horse has other qualities that they are looking for. Sadly these type of horses are passed from one home to another and their problems often being made worse than better. If you are considering buying the horse for yourself you have to consider the implications of such an animal, ie, do i have the experience, knowledge, time and money and then of course there is a safety issue. I know i would be very reluctant to pay good money for such a horse but i suppose it depends upon how severe his problems are. The riding school could get a good school type horse for half that price. Ugly, bucks, rears, bad comformation- why did someone pay £4000 for it in the first place i wonder? (another thread maybe- "overpriced horses!") |
Edited by - joe on 23 Jan 2004 11:44:33 AM |
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Wyllow
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Jan 2004 : 1:08:25 PM
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Some very wise words here, indeed.
Remember that old adage "buyer beware"!
It's not a phrase coined for nothing!
~Nicci
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bridie
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zoew37
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Scotland
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Posted - 23 Jan 2004 : 8:09:42 PM
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suzanne hes not my child, he is my friends son, who was the one that went to olympis last year for the veteran finals, had a pic up to show sumone thought i would just leave it.
Joe, i know the horse and yes his next stop probably is the knacker, but i have ridden this animal on numerous occassions and i know hes a talented lad but not in a riding school environment. He was bought by the yard manager at the time unseen by the riding school owner. Hes used for the more advanced lesson but the work hes doing is blowing his head. I know i have the experience to ride this horse the time etc other wise i wouldnt realistically think about buying him. Also when the horse was bought about 2 years ago he was bought for the more advanced rider in mind, and possibly eventing. But the manager left and hes stuck there. I believe this horse isnt worth more than £700 and i wouldnt pay more for him.
Thankyou for all of the advice everyone
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