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KittyB
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 19 Feb 2007 : 1:44:56 PM
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Can anyone tell me why people that don't own or ride Arabs get such a smug, knowing look on their faces when they talk about "typical" Arabs, often accompanied by rolling eyes and a tut-tut?
My opinion of a "typical" Arab would be a horse that is beautiful, spirited, hard-working, loyal, loving, reliable, generous, enthusiastic, exuberant and one that is an absolute joy to own. 
Makes me wonder just what type of horses they've been led to believe are "typical" Arabs. Certainly not any that I've known!
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Adara_Arabians
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England
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Posted - 19 Feb 2007 : 1:54:00 PM
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uh tell me about it, coming from a livery yard.
I cannot get any services down my yard, even rug changes and everyone refuses to go in the stables with mine.
Both mares are 100% in the stable and very well behaved but people would rather stay clear and say to me, oh i dont no how you put up with those arabs"
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NatH
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England
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Posted - 19 Feb 2007 : 2:25:34 PM
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Silly s*ds aren't they?
They have no idea what they are missing |
Natalie
Chapel Lane Arabians
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Ady
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England
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Posted - 19 Feb 2007 : 2:29:07 PM
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Kitty
Your opinion of a typical arab is spot on and as you say an absolute joy to own. Having done the livery yard thing in the past I can tell you that the problem horses I have encountered have very much been non arabs. Why people come out with that typical arab, tut tut stuff I don’t know. |
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Pauline
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England
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Pasha
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 19 Feb 2007 : 3:39:31 PM
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| I don't know where people get their ideas from I really don't! It infuriates me! |
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anne
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England
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Posted - 19 Feb 2007 : 4:37:15 PM
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I tend to say not a lot and wait for there non Arab to play up  and in most cases mine have been good and you can look back at them with smuggness and point out that is why you have a typical arab that just gets on and does the job required
Just slighty of thread when riding my 13 2hh New Forest I have often been asked would I not rather be riding a proper sized horse. 
Many have had to eat their words when they have needed me to give them a lead past something scary, over a jump or into water  |
    
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KittyB
Silver Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Feb 2007 : 5:12:04 PM
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| I just don't understand the snobbery that goes on amongst certain factions of the horsey world. I love ALL horses, particularly Arabs, but would never even dream of scoffing or looking down at someone just because of what they're riding (or any other reason for that matter!). |
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Kelly
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England
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Posted - 19 Feb 2007 : 5:16:36 PM
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I took my rising 5 year old who hasn't done very much at all, on a ride yesterday. I did get off and lead him at one point, but that's because we were passing the clay pigeon shooting area for the first time.
The ones 20m from the path saw us and stopped (until we'd gone past - just), but the ones 60m away carried right on pulling and yelling and shooting.
Jack was scared and wanted to run, but we took our time and he followed me right past, then stood and watched and listened and calmed down back to normal.
Is that a 'typical arab'? |
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Grey Girl
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England
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Posted - 19 Feb 2007 : 6:09:41 PM
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Everyone at our place thinks Amelia is gorgeous and LOVE the way she zooms about gracefully with her head and tail in the air. Even the farmer is getting a little fond of her (from his initial opionion of: 'Humph! Well, it's pretty enough' I think it was her rearing over him when she took offence at me walking away from her that did it! I can still see his stunned expression now as Amelia shot into the air, then came back to earth and stood there as calm as could be. Especially as he knows what a cowardly rider I am!)
Yes, people think arabs can be bats, but I think it might be cos when they are enjoying life they're all head up and tail up and snorty abd look like an explosion waiting to happen. But it doesn't...
Grey Girl
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beau
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Feb 2007 : 6:21:09 PM
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| The problem with a lot of people is that they are scared of horses who are able to engage their brain + think for themselves.,. Arabs can outwit humans + those that say 'typical arab' don;t like it.,. i moved to a yard once where they were anti-arab + proved how great they are, my horse would jump the moon; go past anything scary without a second thort + looked more graceful than anything else there, some on the yard did change their veiw. |
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Honeyb060674
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Feb 2007 : 6:29:32 PM
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| I have discovered much of the problem is people don't realise how clever arabs are. Only a few ever DARED to get on Honey and only 3 ever stayed on her. Ones an arab owner herself and the other 2 were good friends who understood her (and more importantly LISTENED to my instructions on how she 'likes' to be ridden!) I personally wouldn't have anything but an arab, but have never stereotyped other breeds either. |
      
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arabic
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England
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Posted - 19 Feb 2007 : 6:36:02 PM
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I brought up this subject a while ago and of course said that Freddie was all the things we have mentioned and slap my wrists went on to compare him with the other horses on our yard. My post was promptly printed off and slapped around the yard!!! So I have had to be very careful what I say here but thankfully the culprits have finally moved on and everyone is so much happier, including Freddie who now has the attention of all the children and absolutely revells in it. This weekend they were using him as practice for picking up feet and poor chap didnt know which foot to lift next!!! "Typical arab" I would say.
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Judith S
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Posted - 19 Feb 2007 : 6:41:37 PM
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I live in the "heart" of Welsh Cob country.....but the very odd thing round here is when I ride out on my Arabs & PBs - the "local" farmers & folk - all stop & admire my horses - they do seem to like a "nice" - "blood" horse round here & the comments about my Arabs are always favourable! In fact most of the older farmers say they used to do the gathering of the sheep on the open hills on horseback when they were younger & the horses they rode more often than not had a high percentage of Arab blood - if not all Arab! I have been told by many of the hill farmers that the best horse to ride after sheep on open hill & bogs is an Arab or one with Arab blood!
This I find interesting! I ride mine up on the hills, bogs etc - & yes they are sensible in tricky situations & also they can "skip" over bad going - unlike a heavy Welsh cob!
The entire son on my stallion is owned by a hill farmer over in the Elan Valley - apparently hes the most amazing horse to ride for the sheep gathering - over thousands of wild, wild acres.
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arabic
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England
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Posted - 19 Feb 2007 : 6:42:39 PM
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I brought up this subject a while ago and slap my wrists made the mistake of comparing Freddie to other horses on our yard. Well my words were printed off and hung up for all to see and I've had to be very careful what I say here. Thankfully the culprits have moved on and everyone is much happier including Freddie who is now a great hit with the children. This weekend they used him for practice at lifting feet - poor chap literally didnt have a leg to stand on but loved every minute "typical arab" I would say.
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jaj
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Feb 2007 : 6:43:31 PM
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OMG Sandie how awful! How did they know to come on here? Oh what a nightmare  !
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arabic
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England
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Posted - 19 Feb 2007 : 6:43:46 PM
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| ooppss sorry didnt think I had submitted it now its here twice - typical me lol! |
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Tahir
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Posted - 19 Feb 2007 : 9:35:50 PM
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Trouble is, not many so-called "horsepeople" are as intelligent as an Arab horse, so they have to stick to the slower thinking breeds!!! (duck whilst I get shot down in flames!!!)
Personally though, I steer clear of people who start the conversation "I don't like Arabs, they are silly". I always reply with "Just as well, Arabs don't easily suffer fools" then just walk away!!!
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Cassie
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England
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Posted - 19 Feb 2007 : 10:24:55 PM
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Hi
I know what you mean even my friend use to say "I don't normally like arabs but Kaz is different she's not like your typical arab".My mare is so good she stands when I am mounting doesn't work off until I am ready. And when I bought her she was 3 I also had a puppy he use to swing on her tail and she would gallop around the field with him hanging off the tail and she would chase him and he would chase her Is that a typical looney arab no I don't thing so. If she was the so called typical looney arab she wouldn't have been happy to do these things and a another thing is she lets the dogs share her food ie horse head dog head in same bowl.
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katefox1812
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 : 11:29:21 AM
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I've been on the kind of yards where people say 'typical Arab' in the past, so have been even more amazed by the place I'm at now - Cliveden Stud. It's a totally non-Arab yard, run by a very experienced BHSI and former event rider (Badminton etc.)- not normally the most Arab-friendly people. The senior stallion is an advanced eventer by Jumbo.
And yet they never have a bad word to say about Arabs! The only time they say 'typical Arab' is in a positive sense, when Tobago does something particularly clever, or when they are admiring his movement or balance or agility or something! When he learnt all the transition commands in just 2 ten-minute lunge-sessions, the YO said "Well, I knew Arabs were very intelligent, but I didn't realize they were that smart!"
When he was being particularly soppy and affectionate the other day, the head girl said "Arab stallions usually have really sweet temperaments, don't they? I heard it was because they've been 'domesticated' longer than any other breed - you know, living in the tent and all that..."
I think I must be very lucky to have found a place with such nice, open-minded people. |
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Tahir
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 : 11:38:47 AM
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You are so right Kate, thankfully you have found a yard that has proper "horsepeople".
Carla, xx. |
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white bryony
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 : 11:51:36 AM
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I have never come accross anyone saying 'typical arab' they all love my girl, and if anything it is me who says it!!
I took her out in hand for a walk the other day and she decided to act extremely silly - her head arched,tail over her back,snorting and prancing the whole way back down the track in front of people. It is quite understanding why people say it!he he
I love arabs but to be honest being a horse lover I wouldnt turn any horse down. They are all equally a joy to own and all have their own special ways about them, be it an arab, cob or new forest.
People who dont know arabs and say these comments could be the ones that go to shows and see just how some of these arabs are shown and some do look like complete lunatics which gives people the wrong impression as they arent aware that this is how they are trained!
Im not saying its all like this but how it must come accross to some people.
ps im am not slating arabs or showing just trying to understand why people think this way.
I love the way arabs show themselves off. Even mine when she acts like she did on her ment to be quiet walk! |
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arraby
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Wales
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 : 1:31:07 PM
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I've lost count of the times my "little mare" as she has been called
has led a group of refuseing "hunters" through a river or a boggy area then miles down the track trotted perkily past the group that tore past you a few miles back! giving them a cheery wave as we passed them!! Give me my brave- hardy- elegant- intelligent- gentle
"little mare" anyday.We people owned by arabians know something other
people dont...... the best things come in small packages |
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erica giles
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 : 1:47:53 PM
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I think the trouble is that people dont have the intelligence to understand Arabs, they only have a reputation for being feisty and stubborn because the majority of people see only what they want to see not what is really there.
As I have said before I personally would never have anything else, my little mare is the bravest horse I have ever ridden and she will never say no. If she does I respect her judgement. She is my best friend and a joy and pleaure to own. In her previous home she was branded difficult and dangerous!!!! I dont think so.
I also think that people have a misconception that a thing of beauty is good for nothing but to look at how wrong they are. |
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stella
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 : 2:02:52 PM
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My old Arab gelding (sadly now passed on to greener pastures) was an extremely spirited horse to ride but in the stable he was angelic.
At the yard one day, a friend's daughter wanted to come into my stable and help groom Mak, so I supplied her with a brush and off she went. The little girl was about five years old and tiny and she could stand under Mak's tummy with no problem at all!
Unknown to me whilst I was grooming Mak's head, she had walked under his tummy, brushed that all over and then decided to give his willy a brush too!!
Mak's reaction to this? Well, he looked round (presumably to make sure she was doing it properly) and then carried on eating his hay.
A typical Arab I'd say! |
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sapphire blue
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England
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Posted - 23 Feb 2007 : 12:19:28 PM
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| I know what you mean about 'typical arab' comments, I use to be on a show livery yard and I'd always get a congratulations quickly followed by not bad for a flighty arab! or we had a leaf blower to clean up and it was really noisy again it would be how good, for an Arab he was the coolist character up there never put a foot wrong!! |
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