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Arachnid
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 England
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 Posted - 06 Dec 2006 : 12:42:33 PM
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Spider has a cluster of little lumps under his saddle just where my left seat bone would be. He has always had lumps from time to time and last year I changed the saddle. They dont seem to hurt him (if they are pushed) but they seem to be more raised recently and I am worried about them. I took this up with the vet last time she came and she seem to think that he just had sensitive skin. He has seen a physio within the last month and she was happy with his back generally. He seems to be going very nicely although he does grumble when I do up the girth (but this is since he has been clipped and I think it is cold and spikey!) He wears a sheepskin (Bartl) numnah and someone suggested that maybe this was the problem and I should use a plain saddlecloth. Any suggestions?
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Moosie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Dec 2006 : 4:10:18 PM
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| Hi, I have had two chestnut mares with something similar to this - the lumps came and went according to the time of year and were totally painless. Never discovered what caused them and I used a plain cotton nummnah and always wash the saddle area if its sweaty at all. In fact one mare got them when she was off work for a while! When I mentioned it to the vet he said nothing to worry about but try rubbing in some dermobian - this did bring them down. You can still get it (dermobian!) but not in UK. |
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Tahir
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Dec 2006 : 11:27:54 PM
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Hiya Arachnid, I hate to say it (and really no offence meant), but maybe you sit harder on your left seat bone than your right (we all ride more on one side than the other!!). You will probably know if you do. If yes, I would also say that Spider has very sensitive skin, resulting in a "reaction", which could be very minute pieces of mud at the hair follicles being "ridden" in. A natural saddlecloth IMHO would be the best for him, so sheepskin or cotton would be great.
I found that my boy, who had an ultra-sensitive back, really benefitted from a gel pad with a pure cotton numnah underneath.
Sorry to go on, but are the lumps seasonal or just after you've ridden, or just when he's clipped? |
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Arachnid
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England
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Posted - 08 Dec 2006 : 09:21:28 AM
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| Thanks Tahir and Moosie. I will have a look on the internet for dermobian. Yes Tahir I think I do put more weight on the left seat bone (on account of having broken my right leg in January) in fact it is always slightly uncomfortable on that side. I think I'll have a look for a gel pad too. He has the lumps all year round, but sometimes they are more pronounced than others. He is not clipped under his saddle just on his neck and tummy. |
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Moosie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Dec 2006 : 10:55:25 AM
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| Dermobian is marketed as Dermapred ointment. If you need some and have no joy on the internet you can e mail me and I can send you a link (get mine from Belgium!)Such a pain - even the vets are moaning that they cant get it any more! |
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Tahir
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Dec 2006 : 12:14:19 AM
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Sorry to hear you broke your leg, ouch!!!
I don't think that there is anyone alive that rides evenly, so a gel pad will help even out the pressure on your horses back. I have one that had been tested on pilot's that have been ejected from aircraft!!! The suppliers sold it to me when they put it on the floor and said "Just drop your knees onto the pad, it won't hurt", I laughed and said "You first". They did, and I copied, I couldn't believe it - I didn't "ground out" at all. I bought one, it has been such a bonus. BUT you do need a cotton numnah between the saddle and horse, as the gel pad isn't breathable.
I did buy mine about 10 years ago, so I am sure there is something better on the market now.
Carla, xx. |
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Rozy Rider
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Dec 2006 : 1:27:30 PM
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Going back a few years (just bought the horse) my arab had lumps in the saddle and girth region, quite a few scattered about and they were very hard and about as big as a thumb nail, they felt deep seated and I almost felt like they could be picked off/out. They never causes a problem while riding and I thought the horse should have been a little fatter..so I wormed & for Botts and sure enough out came the little devils (Grubs), I told the vet they had all disapeared after worming for Botts. I collected the grubs out of the dropping.. and the vet was keen to see them.(still in the jar),lumps have all gone and not returned..so in my arab's case I'm almost sure it was botts... and not to be confused with a sweat rash...Just add. he was not the easiest of horses to take the wormer,some went on the wall & ceiling so for good measure he had the whole dose, a little more that was needed, I'm sure this also helped move these grubs....and I think its about worming at the correct time of the year..for these, same as Tapes...
At at competitive ride we run, the vet did write on someone's horses sheet..modules under the saddle area...so others have the problem..
hope this helps... |
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Edited by - Rozy Rider on 18 Dec 2006 9:38:20 PM |
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arabic
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Posted - 10 Dec 2006 : 2:45:13 PM
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Freddie had some back in the summer and I wasn't sure what they were so I am taking note should they appear again next year.
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Arachnid
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England
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Posted - 11 Dec 2006 : 09:28:43 AM
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Thats interesting Rozy Rider. Spiders nearly due to have flu and tet jabs so I will bother the vet about this too.
Sandie, its so nice to know that someone else is just as anxious about their one cossetted horse as me! (I think I had Spiders teeth rasped a bit too late last time too) I think I'll do 'all of the above' ie gel pad, dermaped and report back in a few months time 
(i dont know what this smilie means but he's cute) |
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Rach1
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England
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Posted - 11 Dec 2006 : 8:24:12 PM
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I think the lumps are called GRANULOMA (sp) they come and go usually with the changing coats etc. also they could be little ingrowing hairs. My horse gets them all the time with or with out a gell pad but they dont hurt and actually he likes them being scratched!! |
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Grey Girl
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England
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Posted - 19 Dec 2006 : 7:32:45 PM
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Amelia had a little lump on her back in the saddle area and I duly called the vet out (I am REALLY touchy about lumps as my old mare died of cancer) and apparently they're terribly common, come and go for no apparent reason, and are harmless. She did say what they were but I can't remember now, sorry.
But one should always keep an eye on them for soreness, rubbing, or growing Just In Case.
Rach1: Amelia had two fungal granulomas on her face and they had to be operated on as they can kill - but they're VERY RARE unless you live within three miles of me, in which case they are getting common. Someoneround here must be growing something peculiar.
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Jumanji
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Posted - 19 Dec 2006 : 11:31:57 PM
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My boy has an old established granuloma on his back close to his spine and about 2 inches in from the back of the saddle.It appeared around 1999 about the size of a pin head,and is now almost as big as a penny.When not ridden for 3 months of the year it rises slightly and once ridden work commences it flattens down.I only ride in wool numnahs and sometimes it becomes rubbed and bleeds slightly.My vet told me it was a damaged hair folicle,and would cause more trouble to remove.It does not bother him at all.
I compete with him in endurance and i do write old established granuloma on my vet sheet,and while a lot of vets like to prod it ,some dont even look at it.
Its a shame ,cos it spoils his good looks,but we just live with it. |
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Arachnid
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England
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Posted - 02 Jan 2007 : 4:20:07 PM
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| I have just made a discovery re the lumps. They are not under the saddle at all but under the overhanging part of the numnah!(Honestly I am not being as stupid as it sounds, Spider is very short backed) The hair is starting to wear away over the lumps and I decided yesterday to stop riding until the vet arrives on Friday. Anyway the really expensive sheepskin numnah is going straight on ebay (still going to ask the vet tho) Anyway thanks for all your advice everyone [( |
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Tonim
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Jan 2007 : 6:35:07 PM
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I had a horse quite a few years ago who had small raised lumps appear under her saddle area. From what I remember, the vet advised me that after riding I should just loosen the girth and not remove the saddle straight away, to give the horse a chance to cool first.
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Arachnid
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Posted - 05 Jan 2007 : 6:38:42 PM
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and the vet said...
granulomas
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buy a gel pad instead of a conventional numnah
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there wasnt much to worry about
so you are all correct (apart from Rozy Rider and her bott worm although I was hoping that it would be that cos its easier to treat)
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Tahir
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Posted - 08 Jan 2007 : 01:03:03 AM
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This thread is so full of useful information, thanks all for sharing and especially arachnid for starting it. Something to look out for in the future.
Just for interest, my (sadly deceased) stallion used to be "allergic" to his own sweat. If he got hot whilst being ridden, and I didn't "clean" him properly after our ride, he would lose the hair where the sweat had gathered.
If this makes any sense, has anyone else had this problem??
Carla, xx. |
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