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loub
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Posted - 07 Oct 2006 :  11:12:24 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add loub to your friends list Send loub a Private Message
heres some photos from hoys, i know some(most) arn't that brill, but thought as not all could be there, i would share some of what i have, most are stationary shots as i'm learning with my camera and the movement shots mainly weren't good.

also sorry i don't know all the names but will put names on the ones i can remember who they are, have posted them as links as photos are big and don't want to take up too much forum space, will resize when i have chance and replace links with photos.

any advice on how to take photos better, gratefully received. also advice on what lens to use with my canon eos 300d also gratefully received. (have asked for a monopod for my birthday)

think this was geldings class:








this maybe mares, but again not sure:


shamila amira:


aramisa bint sapphire:






think this is shamzarah:


toman:


aja ben rajah:


championship line-up:


toman receiving his championship(i know it's slightly out of focus sorry):


aja ben rajah receiving his reserve:


hope you like them.

Edited by - NPA Arabians on 08 Oct 2006 09:02:12 AM
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LastSerenade
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Posted - 07 Oct 2006 :  11:37:22 PM  Show Profile  Click to see LastSerenade's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add LastSerenade to your friends list Send LastSerenade a Private Message
I must've been stood right next to you for the gelding class... those pics are from the exact same angle as mine! (I went and got a seat for the mares and stallions)
I've got a couple of pics but they're not very clear and a little video of laps of honour, I@ll try and get them on tomorrow.
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loub
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Posted - 07 Oct 2006 :  11:40:06 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add loub to your friends list Send loub a Private Message
we were standing under the caldene banner on the curtains between caldene area and warm up area for main ring, may have been slightly further along towards champagne bar, as was trying to get best view point. i was the one with the little boy stood on the chair, so he could see.
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Micky
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Posted - 08 Oct 2006 :  10:11:52 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Micky to your friends list Send Micky a Private Message
Lovely to see the photos, and well done everyone.

Is that a mounting block in the ring?
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loub
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Posted - 08 Oct 2006 :  10:19:53 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add loub to your friends list Send loub a Private Message
yes, that was so the ridden judge could get on them, one of the stallions didn't like it first time though so she went on to the next then came back to him and he stood still for her.
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Micky
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Posted - 08 Oct 2006 :  11:45:39 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Micky to your friends list Send Micky a Private Message
Is a mounting block needed, and if so why?
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Zan
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Posted - 08 Oct 2006 :  12:00:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit Zan's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Zan to your friends list Send Zan a Private Message
Originally posted by Micky

Is a mounting block needed, and if so why?


Speaking from completely outside the world of showing ---it is better for the horse's back and the saddle to mount from a mounting block. The saddle can shift on the back when mounting otherwise, and, although it is possible to mount correctly with one hand in the mane and one hand on the poll of the saddle (which is how I remount when out hacking as I have so many un horse friendly gates to go through ) which causes no damage to the back or saddle, the way many people haul themselves up hanging on to the saddle can twist the tree, and misplace the sadddle on the back.

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Micky
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Posted - 08 Oct 2006 :  12:25:26 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Micky to your friends list Send Micky a Private Message
Whats wrong with a leg up?
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geegee
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Posted - 08 Oct 2006 :  12:49:19 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add geegee to your friends list Send geegee a Private Message
Probably health and safety reason.....
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Micky
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Posted - 08 Oct 2006 :  2:54:14 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Micky to your friends list Send Micky a Private Message
Dont think so otherwise all HOYS ridden classes would do the same. Is there a rule about mounting blocks for arabs only?
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loub
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Posted - 08 Oct 2006 :  3:03:36 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add loub to your friends list Send loub a Private Message
can i just ask what difference it makes whether the judge had a mounting block to mount, or had a leg up or got on from the ground?

surely it's up to the individual judges how the get on to the horses.

i think when having to ride 45 horses the judge is intitled to mount however they feel most comfortable!
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GHALEEM
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Posted - 08 Oct 2006 :  3:17:12 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GHALEEM to your friends list Send GHALEEM a Private Message
I think i am going to have to go and watch next year the atmosphere looks fantastic.
Michelle
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SueN
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Posted - 08 Oct 2006 :  3:19:12 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SueN to your friends list Send SueN a Private Message
Fantastic news that Toman got the championship, he's a cracking horse.

Joining in re the pros and cons of the mounting block, do you not think that it looks slightly amateurish that a judge has to use this. We are not talking about 17.3h.h. heavyweight hunters. Of course its up to the judge, but HOYS is the premier showing event of the year and a leg up looks so much more elegant. I dont believe that any panel judge would find riding 45 show animals in a day at all daunting.
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Qui Gon Jinn
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Posted - 08 Oct 2006 :  3:30:34 PM  Show Profile  Visit Qui Gon Jinn's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Qui Gon Jinn to your friends list Send Qui Gon Jinn a Private Message
Hi Loub,

Well done on taking the time to share all your shots with us. With regards to photography, we use Canon cameras and lens for our business. In particular the 20D, soon to be updated to the new 30D, which has a bigger memory. Your 300D is a good camera and I'm sure will serve you well. It is important to be shooting in TV (time value) rather than any of the other settings on the camera (such as sport, landscape or portrait). The speed of the shutter release is paramount to capturing crisp clean shots. Certainly a monopod or tripod will help with camera shake, but a lens with IS (Image Stabalizing) and f2.8 or less is desirable for indoor photography, that way you will still get a good clear shot without the need for flash. Also indoors at equestrian competitions, quality of the shots will increase by positioning yourself as low to the ground as you can with the lens pointing upwards of horizontal, allowing as much light from skylights and/or indoor lighting to enter the lens. The more light entering the lens, the faster the shutter speed can be. A shutter speed of 1/250sec or higher is preferable which equals sharper, brighter pictures! However, be aware photographing horses indoors should NEVER be used with camera flash, as this not only distracts the horse, but seriously upsets the competitor!!

Good luck with your photography and we look forward to seeing more of your shots very soon!

Jayne


The Soul would have no Rainbow....If the Eyes had shed no Tears.
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suneagle
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Posted - 08 Oct 2006 :  3:43:21 PM  Show Profile  Click to see suneagle's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add suneagle to your friends list Send suneagle a Private Message
nice photos! they are great, well done to everyone who was there.

clare xxxx
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loub
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Posted - 08 Oct 2006 :  4:34:07 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add loub to your friends list Send loub a Private Message
Hi Jayne,

thanks for your comments, i will copy them off here and keep them for future refrence. i had my camera resting on the barrier at the edge of the arena to add stability, it was my first real time of using the bigger lens and my first time of indoor photography. i had my flash turned off, but it was on automatic for the rest bar focusing which i had on manual and was focusing on objects near where i was taking the photos, except when the horses were stationary, then i manual focused on them.

i took my camera along for practice, and was very glad i did.

will be doing much more practice.

thanks

Lou x
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Lami
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Posted - 08 Oct 2006 :  6:09:04 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lami to your friends list Send Lami a Private Message
Loub
These pictures are great. The first picture of the geldings is fab the first chestnut is the Gelding winner Dahab Ameer and Caroline Georgiou the second chestnut in the picture is mine and he was 4th Atel El Shaklan. I was too busy jumping up and down trying to see from the collecting ring to take any photo's. What a fab day and I have never laughed as much as trying to help the geldings into the main ring from the collecting ring as it was raining heavily and the water ran very fast between the two rings making a river and you all know Arabs and water most of them entered the ring from a standing leap to walk round once and then have to leap back into the collecting ring but I still think everyone enjoyed themselves. It was my 40th birthday on friday and I spent the rest of the day "celebrating".
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Roseanne
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Posted - 08 Oct 2006 :  6:52:33 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roseanne to your friends list Send Roseanne a Private Message
Great Lou. I took a work camera - vast Nikon with a massive lens but haven't had a chance to get them taken off yet. If I do someone will have to tell me how to post them. I've never got the hang of it.

Re the mounting block, the male judges do get a leg up. It's much better for the horse's back to have a mounting block used, the strain of having to rebalance as a heavyish weight pulls on the left side can be damaging. It also stretches stirrup leathers.
I always start horses by mounting from a block, though I teach them to be mounted from the ground from each side and try to alternate it.
Joanna Lowe, the judge at HOYS, is certainly capable of mounting from the floor. She's a very capable rider and I'm sure far higher horses wouldn't be a problem for her, only like anyone, she'd use a mounting block if possible to save herself, and the horse, any undue strain. Riding isn't a physical test, it's all about protecting your horse's physique while you produce it.

Roseanne
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linda
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Posted - 08 Oct 2006 :  7:17:04 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add linda to your friends list Send linda a Private Message
Well done to Toman, and of course everyone involved, great result!

And well done to Aja Ben Rajah and Clare on his reserve champion position

What a versatile young man, he is already a champion inhand, we are Looking forward to seeing him inhand at the Europeans,

congratulations to his new owner Tracey and of course Andrea, who I hear were in tears at HOYS,

Andrea tell Vervaldee Kt's waiting for him to return to the UK

Lx

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