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| carrob |
Posted - 11 May 2013 : 7:48:41 PM
Hello everyone, I am new to this forum :-)
I am thinking about buying an Arab in the next couple of years and would like to know about the different types.
Having not owned an Arab before (I have a 5yo haflinger and a little welsh youngster) it would probably be best not to get too thrown in at the deep end! I would also need something pretty chunky as I currently weigh about 14st (I am tall, would hopefully get down to 13 by the time I buy). I know that Arabs can often be very wide but would also be interested in Arab Xs and Anglo Arabs. I just read a thread that mentioned a Highland x Arab which sounds just amazing! I have seen some Haflinger x Arabs which also sound great.
I have minimal experience of arabs other than one used at a riding school I worked at (very chestnut mare!) and an anglo I shared who was pretty high energy! I have fair experience of TBs though.
Anyway would love to hear of and see pictures of your Arabs to compare the finer with the chunky, and the showy with the more 'performance' if that is the right term!
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| Gemma |
Posted - 18 May 2013 : 10:28:42 AM
I would whole-heartedly agree with those who say forget looking at strains and look at the horse in front of you. If he/she has the right build, conformation and temperament for you then their breeding won't matter.
And as for pure-bred versus part-bred, that's again for you to decide. I own both a pure and a part-bred. The PBA is pictured below. She's by a welshxarab stallion out of an anglo-arab mare and is just brilliant. 14.3, well-built and has a temperament die for!
My pure-bred is high % crabbet (89% I think) and a very different character. She is not as heavy set as some crabbets but still very typey. She's 14.2, beautifully put together and can be either very loving or a total diva!!!! |
| abcoboy |
Posted - 16 May 2013 : 10:09:42 AM
Ahh – small world! Well Crystali is now in Prage and in foal I believe (may have had it by now) – she was recently sold on by Rikke who originally had her in Denmark … think there’s a stallion for sale on here by her too (my mares full brother) at the moment. x |
| Esther |
Posted - 15 May 2013 : 1:16:09 PM
Originally posted by AnnaMaisy25
they do seem to realise when they are being complimented don't they?!
Definitely. Getting through the village with Spud can be quite time consuming as he has a lot of adoring public to pose in front of. One daddy of a little girl said that she always ran up the road to see Spud and called him her 'unicorn horse'. |
| alan |
Posted - 15 May 2013 : 11:33:04 AM
I have S A Eternal Spirit (Crystal Magic - 97% Crabbet/100% Old English) x Nahema (38% Crabbet, the rest is Spanish Egyptian Russian & Polish). He stands 15hh & can carry 15 stones with no problem. (Have tried to load a picture of him but I'm unless!!) Gina |
| Cate |
Posted - 14 May 2013 : 11:28:04 PM
Same dam as my mare Soneva so same breeder. I knew there was some connection she is so similar in looks. Evie's pedigree is http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/soneva |
| Pasha |
Posted - 14 May 2013 : 4:45:17 PM
Originally posted by Judith SJust a thought.... don't be blinded by Crabbet, Spanish, Russian etc... at the end of the day its the horse infront of you that matters regardless of its type/bloodlines,breeding etc..... Whats the old saying... "A good horse is never a bad colour" or words to that effect... Buy the Arabian that you feel comfortable with & enjoy it  Judith 
I agree with this!
I have the Camel Type Arab! "Officially" he is Egyptian x Crabbet, but he is 16hh of snake-face, Loreal head-tossing, grumpy Camel
And I absolutely adore him from the tips of those long ears to the base of his shiny little feet! |
| abcoboy |
Posted - 14 May 2013 : 1:52:13 PM
Hi ladies and yes, she knows exactly when she's being talked about ...
This is her pedigree: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sophia+ali
Has that link worked?  |
| Cate |
Posted - 14 May 2013 : 1:06:16 PM
Abcoboy....is she by Muhajjal? (sp) Something rings a bell that she is related to my sE mare by the same stallion.
The mare in my photos is Crabbet/Old English |
| barbara.gregory |
Posted - 14 May 2013 : 11:58:03 AM
Abcoboy, she is lovely, who is she and how is she bred?
Barbara |
| AnnaMaisy25 |
Posted - 14 May 2013 : 11:25:01 AM
Sorry - she!!
Yes, they do seem to realise when they are being complimented don't they?!
Anna x |
| abcoboy |
Posted - 14 May 2013 : 11:17:44 AM
@annamaisy25 - ahh thank you I will pass on your comments tonight when I get home - Im sure she will get an even bigger head ha x |
| AnnaMaisy25 |
Posted - 14 May 2013 : 10:58:07 AM
Oh my goodness ^^^^^^^ DROOL!!! 
Abcoboy, how stunning is he?!
So jealous |
| abcoboy |
Posted - 14 May 2013 : 09:08:54 AM
My straight egyptian
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| MinHe |
Posted - 13 May 2013 : 11:15:23 PM
Originally posted by barbara.gregory
Actually, the early Crabbets were straight Egyptian which is why some Crabbets are "straight Egyptian" as well as being 100% Crabbet not the other way around. Many of the later Crabbets were not mainly Egyptian and would not classify as SE.
Barbara, you have this the wrong way round. The very first Arabs at Crabbet came directly from the desert and had NO Egyptian blood. Later imports by the Blunts did come from Egypt, but they bred both groups together so that the number of Crabbets that could be classed as 'straight Egyptian' (a term not invented until the 1950s/60s) were pretty much limited to their original imports from Egypt.
I have high percentage Egyptians, and they are NOT wide - my highest percentage Egyptian stallion is currently going very nicely in a saddle that was previously on a 13.2h show pony!
I would agree though that after a Haflinger, a high-percentage Crabbet is more likely to give you the sort of "horse" the original poster wants - substantial and correct with plenty of power from a good back end!
Keren |
| Avonbrook |
Posted - 13 May 2013 : 5:08:49 PM
Originally posted by moonlightOoh yes, sorry Callisto! Anyway -great idea - Convention and stud visiting in the week or two afterwards!
Definitely! From memory it is the Monday and Tuesday after Malvern that sees some stud visits in South Wales - 29th and 30th July. |
| rpk2006 |
Posted - 13 May 2013 : 5:01:05 PM
Hi Carrob and welcome to the forum!
My boy Nadem (Nikkodemus x Roxalah) is 75.1% Crabbet and is standing at 16hh and takes a wide saddle! He is a big lad!!
My novice gelding is predominately egyptian / polish and he is also a big lad @ 15.2!!!
I agree with what everyone has said! Dont be stuck on certain types i.e crabbet/russian polish!
There are some seriously outstanding horses out there!
Good luck and enjoy your new best friend when the time comes!
Ive had my best friend for nearly 9 years now
K xx |
| moonlight |
Posted - 13 May 2013 : 2:27:35 PM
Ooh yes, sorry Callisto! Anyway -great idea - Convention and stud visiting in the week or two afterwards! |
| Kes |
Posted - 13 May 2013 : 12:34:40 PM
I can't take credit for that Moonlight I just agreed it was a very good idea. |
| moonlight |
Posted - 13 May 2013 : 12:15:27 PM
Good idea of Kes's -to go to the Crabbet Convention - there is also a countrywide stud tour afterwards - an ideal opportunity to feast your eyes and search for a new bf |
| abcoboy |
Posted - 13 May 2013 : 12:12:59 PM
Another SE lover here - my girl is a very tall 15.3/16 - all leg and very fine
Good luck x |
| TAE |
Posted - 13 May 2013 : 10:37:39 AM
Also don't think that because an arab is of show lines that it will be fine and scatty.
My boy has wonderful show lines and apart from normal youngsters excitement when going out to play is a dream to handle.
Although it looks as if he will only make 15.1 I think his dad is 15.3, one granddad is 16.0 and his mum 15.2 or 15.3 so all quite substantial.
I would agree about looking at studs, Its nice to see several family members and get a feel for their personalities, as some personality traits seem to run in families and it sounds as if your looking for a friend for life. |
| Esther |
Posted - 13 May 2013 : 08:17:08 AM
Originally posted by Judith SJust a thought.... don't be blinded by Crabbet, Spanish, Russian etc... at the end of the day its the horse infront of you that matters regardless of its type/bloodlines,breeding etc..... Whats the old saying... "A good horse is never a bad colour" or words to that effect... Buy the Arabian that you feel comfortable with & enjoy it Judith
This, absolutely. Unless you're interesting in preservation breeding, you're ruling yourself out of enormous numbers of beautiful arabs who would quite easily do the job you want of them if you restrict yourself to one strain. They are all (in theory at least) purebreds. I used to think that all straight Egyptians were too tall and leggy for my taste but then I met a friend's little very old fashioned straight Egyptian who I have a very big soft spot for - small, stocky, and wide.
Think more in terms of the height and build and character you want and see where you go from there. |
| alan |
Posted - 12 May 2013 : 9:50:24 PM
Hi Carrob. Welcome to AL. Whereabouts in the country are you? There are a few breeders that have high percentage Crabbet and performance Arabs. I'm sure if you contacted them they would be happy to help. |
| pinkvboots |
Posted - 12 May 2013 : 9:31:27 PM
I have a Polish Russian gelding he will have a very small percentage crabbet, he is 15h and very well built with a very good front and takes an x wide saddle, he is so comfortable to ride can be bouncy though but I quite like that, I would say there are finer types about but not just the high percentage crabbets have a larger more substancial build. |
| joanna_piana |
Posted - 12 May 2013 : 8:29:46 PM
Hi Welcome, agree just go and look as not all the more substantial arabs are necessarily Crabbet and not all Crabbets are laid back!
This is my 100% mare, she is only 14.2 and i'm just over 5'6 so you can see how she takes up my leg. My gelding is Crabbet/Polish and also 14.2 but a completely different shape.
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