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| annas |
Posted - 12 Apr 2012 : 10:14:42 AM
Hi all. I am trying to find out more about a gelding I saw advertised. Apparently 6 years old, 14.3 with no registration docs being provided when he was sold, although they existed, allegedly, his name could be something like 'Silver Sonati or Sonata', stable name Sam. Apparently, he was originally bought from two men in Derby and he's now in Herts/London? Any ideas? He is on another site for sale.. but I don't want to get in trouble by posting more details here...Thanks. |
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| annas |
Posted - 13 May 2013 : 08:58:21 AM
Thanks for our advice, much appreciated. I hadn't registered him as I thought that a new owner may want to name him...maybe I could throw that in!
His work has been sporadic so we're definitely not in a position to go to a show and to be honest I think he needs restarting 'Richard Maxwell' style or to have someone ride him every day and ignore his silliness on mounting.
Really appreciate your time an suggestions, thank you.
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| Esther |
Posted - 13 May 2013 : 08:42:36 AM
Don't worry too much about the lack of facilities. When we tried Spud out we went to a local indoor - it proved to us that he loaded and travelled well, and that he was sensible away from home. Use your lack of facilities to your advantage.
Your boy is a lovely chap and I hope that he finds 'his' person soon.
As an unregistered green horse, I think you've got him priced about right, but a couple of things jump out at me:
1) The fact that he is unregistered. Do you have a price for getting that done? Is there anything you can do from your end now to make it easier/cheaper for the purchaser to register him?
2) The way you've worded the ad it sounds like you haven't done an awful lot with him at all and that he's mostly been out of work, whereas if you read this thread it's clear that, although life has got in the way at times, you have put a lot of work into him. You need to sell what he has done, not what he hasn't. Is there anything you can do to just bump his experience levels up a bit? Maybe get him to a small low key pleasure ride or a walk/trot dressage test? |
| annas |
Posted - 13 May 2013 : 07:23:01 AM
I do hope so, thanks Jo. Our current yard has just been sold so we have to move out on Thursday. We're going to our summer grazing. I'm looking forward to not mucking out! However there are no facilities to show Sam to potential purchasers, which is a pain.
As far as mounting is concerned, I think that he would benefit from spending some time with someone like Richard Maxwell. At the moment he still will not stand still to mount and needs a quick and agile rider to just hop on. |
| joanna_piana |
Posted - 12 May 2013 : 8:54:22 PM
Think the market is just pants at the moment. Don't think you're asking too much just not enough buyers for the horses. How is he at mounting now? I'm sure the right person will come along if you hang on in there. |
| annas |
Posted - 12 May 2013 : 7:04:42 PM
I haven't found anyone lovely for Sam...so frustrating. We've had lots of enquiries but without it going further than that on the most part as I have put people off.
Lots of young inexperienced girls or dodgy sounding people...
Am I asking too much for him? |
| Callisto |
Posted - 27 Apr 2013 : 5:43:55 PM
Anna, it's been a very long winter, so maybe that's been putting off potential buyers? As the weather gets warmer then maybe more people will start looking.
I have pm'd you |
| annas |
Posted - 27 Apr 2013 : 5:39:28 PM
Thank you, that's so kind of you. He's much happier now.
I'm wondering if I'm asking too much for him in his advert as I have had very little response. Not entirely sure of the best way to proceed. The summers coming and he is so wasted, someone could be having such fun with him...
Any suggestions much appreciated, although I really can't loan him, I must sell. |
| TanyanChewy |
Posted - 05 Apr 2013 : 12:34:43 PM
Anna you've done an amazing job on him and I'm sure you'll find him a lovely home now he's on AL. He's a gorgeous boy with a very honest face. |
| annas |
Posted - 04 Apr 2013 : 3:20:49 PM
Thank you for all of your suggestions, he is now advertised on the gelding section of arabianlines.com
Sadly, I haven't found anyone locally (only totally 'unsuitables')! |
| Callisto |
Posted - 05 Feb 2013 : 5:06:41 PM
Anna have you thought of advertising him on the Endurance GB South East Group classifieds? That would be localish and pro-arab. |
| Etoile |
Posted - 05 Feb 2013 : 4:56:54 PM
Even if you would like to see if you can get someone local it's probably worth advertising on here, when we were looking we checked sites like this or the big online ones where you can specify by breed as we were specifically looking for an arab. We were looking for horses that were for sale as near to us as possible, so we didn't have to drive as far to view them, but don't think that we really checked local places where people might advertise because arabs are a less popular breed and the chances of us finding an arab advertised very locally were probably quite low. |
| annas |
Posted - 04 Feb 2013 : 10:42:57 PM
Alison, thank you, that may be my next move...was hoping for someone local but not looking hopeful so far... |
| alison |
Posted - 04 Feb 2013 : 1:02:54 PM
Best place to advertise him would be on this site, I'm sure lots of Arab lovers would be interested. |
| unicorn122 |
Posted - 04 Feb 2013 : 12:03:39 PM
Ah Anna Im sure you'll have no problem finding a nice home for him. I wish I could have him as think he looks georgous! I cant afford two unfortunately :( I'm in Surrey so If I hear of any potential nice owners I will let you know. |
| Callisto |
Posted - 31 Jan 2013 : 2:48:15 PM
Wish I had room Anna, but only just sneaked the yellow pony back from loan past my OH, he would flip if I acquired another, plus I couldn't give him the time he needs - I'm stretched with the thought of fittening and competing the two I have. I totally understand your decision, and I am sure you will find him the special home he deserves. Hopefully will be able to catch up with you after the 11th (Currently offshore, then Mother-in-law's 80th birthday in Elgin on the 9th). |
| annas |
Posted - 31 Jan 2013 : 12:27:32 PM
Thank you so much, if I am honest I am annoyed at myself for not realising how little time I have had to spare...
Still, he now long reins, I know he loves hacking and is very sensible and he's very very happy...bordering on obnoxious some days...so we have certainly bought his personality out!
He will make a great all round horse for someone, he has an amazing walk that matches my tb ex racer, he rides big, and is still bouncing when we get home, I've had a few endurance riders enquiring. He's so pretty though I have several little girls wanting him!! Just need to find the right person...hopefully someone that one of us knows...x |
| erica giles |
Posted - 31 Jan 2013 : 12:07:02 PM
Oh Anna you have done so well with him, someone will jump at the chance of him. Feel proud of what you have done for him xx |
| annas |
Posted - 31 Jan 2013 : 09:29:54 AM
Just life really Paula, my grandmother had been very ill and then passed away and it has really made me re evaluate everything. |
| gossy |
Posted - 31 Jan 2013 : 09:25:37 AM
what happened ?? :(:( |
| annas |
Posted - 30 Jan 2013 : 10:00:36 PM
Hi, just a quick update, Sam is looking absolutely fantastic and my mother is totally smitten. I have sadly made the decision to rehome him, I console myself with the knowledge that I did my best with the time constraints I have had and the fact that I saved him from going to a dealers (and he's much happier now)! He has been hacked out a few times and loves it, he is still a fidget with mounting...if anyone knows of a lovely, permanent home please do let me know. I have begun to advertise locally and felt I should update you all. |
| debs |
Posted - 12 Jan 2013 : 01:48:51 AM
Ah lovely |
| martha615 |
Posted - 11 Jan 2013 : 7:12:27 PM
He looks lovely!
I can't recall what exactly the problem(s) were with him in his old home, so if you feel like summarising where he was and where he's gotten to, you'll definitely have a ready listener here!
Congratulations! |
| annas |
Posted - 10 Jan 2013 : 10:17:54 PM
Here is Sam from the other day. It's actually easier for me to post a video than images...I think I must be doing something wrong!
The rider is 5ft 8" and I am on my big thoroughbred which makes Sam look minuscule. He is actually about 15hh.
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| annas |
Posted - 04 Jan 2013 : 12:59:50 PM
I think it really comes down to common sense and an empathy for the horse that you are working with, whichever methods that you choose to use.
It also helps a lot to know what he has experienced before. With Sam, the less 'faffing' the better...
Sadly, he was sent to someone who did not have the patience and perhaps experience of 'clever, sensitive and quick thinking' horses. |
| martha615 |
Posted - 04 Jan 2013 : 10:59:33 AM
Okay, I have to know who this guy in Herts was....can someone PM me? I have seen atrocious things done in the name of "natural horsemanship" and I've seen wonderful things done. I've never truly understood the idea of sending a horse away for training in any case as it seems that if you are the one who is going to ride it, the smart thing is to get yourself trained with the horse and have these people come to you....but I know it is common practice to send a horse away and that I am unusual in this respect.
The idea of bending a horse's head around is in all the western stuff and I've seen it many, many times on youtube. You hear of "one-reined stops" and that kind of thing for emergencies, of course.
As far as I am aware, the turning of the horse's head practically to your knee when mounted is supposed do be done with a tiny bit of pressure, and the release happens immediately upon the horse giving a centimeter, until the head is all the way around. You are never supposed to force it unless (I think!) it is an emergency to stop them.
Obviously, if you did it mounted and all the horse did was swing around furiously, you probably haven't gotten it right on the ground yet! Idiot people, "natural" or otherwise. I really don't understand..... :(
This move is called "lateral flexion" in Parelli and I don't totally love it anyway, except that if you can get your horse to do this on the ground, and it is done very slowly, it is good for when the chiropractor comes. It is also a good exercise if done correctly in that your horse will show just how much trouble he has with you controlling his head. If it is a lot of trouble, that is something to work on long before you get a bit in his mouth. If he doesn't care, then you are in very nice shape for a number of things, including panics of various sorts (in other words, you get a lot less panic).
So it is an exercise that is useful, as being able to hold their legs is useful. So, just as a horse that doesn't allow you to put their leg between your knees, is probably not going to like it when the farrier does it, so you have to teach that skill -- but slowly!
Before I started working with Esme she had a FIT if she stepped on her own rope. Now she doesn't like it, but copes. She doesn't like her head restrained at all and I have to work on all this, every day, just a little bit. If I don't , I am doing her a disservice, but I only bring the training up to a certain point every day, and no further. It is supposed to get easier, not harder. A horse that is willing to bend his head around and let you totally control them in that way is great -- he is showing a lot of trust and it is a useful skill. But this does not have to happen all at once, in a few weeks, forceably....grrrrrrrrrr!!! Whole point is trust and the horse giving to your control. But the key words there is Trust and Giving.
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