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| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 17 Nov 2011 : 11:04:47 PM
to warn you all of a conman so copied what was put on my FB page;
MARC PALMER; MAY BE USING A DIFFRENT NAME HES GETTING CLEVER CHECK THIS OUT, BIT OF DIFFRENT WORDING BUT ITS DEFINATELY HIS TALK LOOKING FOR ARABS NOW WE WERE RIGHT! http://www.arabianlines.com/for_sale/wanted.htm 2 minutes ago · ý(http://www.facebook.com/pages/Horse-Community-Scams-uncoverdconmen-exposed/182385158505335)about a minute ago · |
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| Rui |
Posted - 18 Nov 2011 : 2:25:50 PM
The ad has been removed.
Paula asked me to inform that she takes notice of previous information regarding dubious ads / advertisers, so contacting us about this is always the way to go.
Regarding this, as I said before, we prefer to play safe. |
| Rui |
Posted - 18 Nov 2011 : 1:25:58 PM
My take on posts is pretty clear - you should not need to read through I don't know how many comments to get essential information about the post itself.
It's a good question, on whether we can remove an ad on a strangers say so. The wanted ads are free, they are a service we provide without any further requirements, so we may as well do what we perceive is the best or the safest, for each case. |
| Nut |
Posted - 18 Nov 2011 : 1:16:50 PM
If you follow the link and read some of the other comments there is a post telling you they have found this person now using another email address, that email address is on the ad in the wanted section and yes its the one saying they do film and tv work and dont mind badly behaved horses.
It seems to be a page sharing stories of people that have used a particular trainer and had poor stories of whats happened to their horses and they want to spread the word. If they had contacted the site, what would you have done? Can you remove an ad on a strangers say so?
I dont think it brought any other add under suspicion. |
| Rui |
Posted - 18 Nov 2011 : 1:01:08 PM
Delyth,
Yes, I absolutely understand about the issues with law enforcement and the difficult in such cases.
My point was, however, related to the ad in question, which seemed to be the point of the warning. I didn't know this involved a circus until you mentioned that yourself (I actually didn't know anything about it). Reading the facebook post I learned nothing that allowed me to act, regarding AL. I am sure horse owners who didn't know the issue beforehand, couldn't use the facebook post to know what they should be looking for either.
The ad is still there for a reason - I am not sure about it still, though your reference to a circus makes me think I know which ad is under suspicion. Anyway, it's still an inference and I can only make it, because YOU, not the facebook post or the person(s) who wrote it, mentioned it.
I will contact Paula to remove it, it's better to err on the safe side. |
| Goldenmane |
Posted - 18 Nov 2011 : 12:42:13 PM
Having been taken in by a 'natural partnership' trainer in Kent, although I paid, I think the more people able to have access to information, the better. Then they can make up their own minds. |
| Delyth |
Posted - 18 Nov 2011 : 10:21:09 AM
Can you think of a reason why the obvious course of action to eliminate this specific threat was not taken?
Sadly we read these things more and more and would be naive to think the law has the resources to deal with such people. As I understand it many horses are sent with their owners knowledge thinking how wonderful their unruly horse will be given a free education and will then be able to perform circus tricks and stunts. This is far from the truth. I do agree that it'd would have been easier to contact A/Lines to remove the advert, which is still there isn't it ?? I hope alarm bells rang with owners wanting to re-home that this was not the norm.
So, the obvious course of action is unobtainable as is any result on welfare cases that we read of on here so often and indeed I was caught up in last year with no assistance from the authorities. |
| Rui |
Posted - 18 Nov 2011 : 08:46:40 AM
Delyth,
Instead of making an overreaching accusation, the person who posted that only needed (needs) to do one thing - contact AL and inform about her concerns. Otherwise the forewarning given on the post is almost useless, as no concrete information is provided on the identity of the person who posted the ad in question, neither on the text of the ad.
A legitimate concern does not justify an irresponsible behavior. Can you think of a reason why the obvious course of action to eliminate this specific threat was not taken? |
| Delyth |
Posted - 18 Nov 2011 : 02:02:52 AM
I don't agree that it tarnishes everyone looking for a horse in the wanted section. This guy professes to be of circus training but with no qualifications and dubious methods. Not many advertise on A/L's for circus, film horses !!! There is also an amber light flashing that he doesn't mind badly behaved horses......people are desperate to get rid in this climate and surely it is better to be forewarned that this is not an option. This guy has left a trail of devastation. |
| Rui |
Posted - 18 Nov 2011 : 12:48:37 AM
Thanks  . |
| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 18 Nov 2011 : 12:20:28 AM
I will pass the message on to them Rui , thanks |
| Rui |
Posted - 17 Nov 2011 : 11:23:13 PM
Lynda, whoever posted that on facebook is being irresponsible as it it tarnishing every person who currently has a wanted ad here with the suspicion of being a con person. If there is anything suspicious about any ad posted on AL, the person who posted that on facebook should contact me or Paula, and explain which ad is suspicious and why.
If there is any substance to the claim, the ad will be removed. |
