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| sycorider |
Posted - 04 Aug 2011 : 08:19:48 AM
Hi Guys I have just brought an arab who is very thin, his hip bones are purtruding and the bone across the top of his back, very badly at the point of the croup.
I was wondering what you all suggest is the best feed that will improve his condition with out stressing him or blowing his brains. He is a 14.2 6 year old polish x crabbet Thanks. |
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| Callisto |
Posted - 14 Aug 2011 : 10:21:00 PM
I must admit I am also a fan of Bailey's Outshine - moved on to it after the Calm and Condition, when Lily's workload increased - just a mug a day added to her ration |
| barbara.gregory |
Posted - 14 Aug 2011 : 10:12:36 PM
Congratulations on your new boy. I am surprised with all the "Baileys" fans that no one has suggested Outshine. It is quite expensive but a bag goes a long way and it is great for putting on weight and giving the coat a real shine; you just add a bit to his feed. He doesn't look poor to me, just lacks muscle and and a little weight but don't get him fat!
Have a great time together.
Barbara |
| Pheebs |
Posted - 14 Aug 2011 : 3:06:10 PM
One more vote for Allen & Page calm and condition her  |
| basbob |
Posted - 12 Aug 2011 : 11:37:24 PM
Alpha Oil and a bit of work to build on the muscle always has worked for me - he's not so bad just out of condition.... |
| sycorider |
Posted - 12 Aug 2011 : 6:21:31 PM
Thanks guys for all ur kinds words and advice he is now over the road from my yard on loads of grass and is starting to florish already x
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| phoenixbruka |
Posted - 06 Aug 2011 : 3:21:51 PM
I honestly don't think his WEIGHT looks that bad
I think its more about muscle tone and good old grass tbh, I'd be VERY careful about feeding lots of hard feed at this time of year.. laminitis is rife and its not just the tubby ones that get it
as has been said, its a lot easier to get it on then off! lol
best of luck ,he'll look great in no time, lots off slow work and hills to build up that bum
susie |
| Callisto |
Posted - 06 Aug 2011 : 2:59:20 PM
Another vote for Calm and Condition, and slow fittening work (plenty of walking up hills), I'm sure he will look much better in a relatively short time, and he is a good looking boy, I'm sure you'll be very happy together. |
| natntaz |
Posted - 06 Aug 2011 : 1:59:47 PM
I used calm and condition when i got my boy a few years ago. It really helped. He didnt get fizzy with it either |
| debs |
Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 11:54:04 PM
Oh god, sound's just like mine!!!!
Originally posted by proctorclaire
His hind quarters seem to be exactly how my Arab's mares are. No matter how much weight she puts on her hind quarters always stay the same. People have had some harsh things to say to me about her "image" however I've tried everything. She only ever gains weight and looses weight off her belly. Her belly is like a beer barrel just now cause of all the grass and with work she'll loose it and look really good but rest of her stays the same.
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| Pasch |
Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 11:24:29 PM
He's lovely and looks very sweet.Is he Russian?They seem to be much more angular than other arabs and have that kind of croup...I would give him good grass,ad lib good quality hay,and don't overdo with feed as that may heat him up and be hard on his stomach and feet.Second the oil.As for work,considering the poor muscle condition,I would first do lunge and long rein work,and start to slowly riding him when his back muscles get stronger,or you may risk some back pain and stiffness.All in all,just a matter of taking it slowly,I don't see a big problem here!
Of course,post some more pics of him when he's a bit filled up,and enjoy! |
| Nichole Waller |
Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 7:07:59 PM
If my vet looked at your pictures he would say "just increase the muscle but not the weight"
I've been told both mine are obese and need to loose loads of weight .
I'm finding it so hard to get weight off them. They live out 24/7 and are currently on half an acre each of really short grass and a few thistles and a tiny feed of hi fi light with Naff Slimline !! And they are ridden at least 6 times a week...!
Some good advice on here, but be careful you don't end up in my situation. Once the weight is on it's much harder to get off (bit like me and my diet really )
I'm getting paranoid about EMS or Insulin Resistance and laminitis... .
He looks a lovely boy though  |
| proctorclaire |
Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 3:28:04 PM
His hind quarters seem to be exactly how my Arab's mares are. No matter how much weight she puts on her hind quarters always stay the same. People have had some harsh things to say to me about her "image" however I've tried everything. She only ever gains weight and looses weight off her belly. Her belly is like a beer barrel just now cause of all the grass and with work she'll loose it and look really good but rest of her stays the same. |
| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 11:29:41 AM
I am looking forward to seeing in in a couple of months when he will have filled out, with your tender loving care he will be fine and you have had some good advice here , I agree with Arachnid , he is a lovely looking boy !
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| Arachnid |
Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 08:30:22 AM
I dont think he looks that bad either(think mine looks like that in Feb but not this time of the year, and mine's hip bones always stick out regardless of his weight!)
Like you I also feed Baileys no 4 but add micronised linseed to help with condition and weight maintenance as Spider burns off weight very easily. I agree with all the others, its probably the stressing that is burning off all your good feed. I have used calmers before but they dont seem to have any effect
Does he weave?
Hes a lovely looking horse by the way. |
| herts_babeuk |
Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 08:10:13 AM
I found that Dobson and Horrel's Build Up mix worked wonders on my TB who was very thin when we got him |
| Roseanne |
Posted - 04 Aug 2011 : 8:57:45 PM
Has he been given a decent worming programme in recent months? You may want to give him a Panacur Guard and tape treatment if he hasn't been wormed well. Are the paddocks cleared of droppings every day?
It's surprising he's quite so thin at this time of year if he's had some decent grass available.
Sure he's going to be a lovely boy when you've got him right! |
| Honeyb060674 |
Posted - 04 Aug 2011 : 8:15:52 PM
Poor boy, but that weight should come back quite easily as he doesn't look too bad. I'd second Judith for the wonders of Dr Green, I'm ready to bet that once he's settled into a routine you'll have problem keeping the weight OFF!
ETA I found Calm & Condition works wonders for condition |
| Quarabian |
Posted - 04 Aug 2011 : 7:35:43 PM
Seconding MinHe's reply, he isn't as bad ads i thought he would be. And he is lovely. Another pink powder fan here. Let him come on slowly. he certainly has had a bit of a rough time before you bought him. |
| Judith S |
Posted - 04 Aug 2011 : 6:37:29 PM
You can't beat grass this time of year, be careful not to give hard feed with too much cereal content as this may fizz him up.
Is there any reason why he needs to be brought in during the day - there is nothing worse than stress for removing condition and his grazing would most likely be giving him more than the hay.
Would also agree with the others that he does not look in too bad condition. |
| vanishtrik |
Posted - 04 Aug 2011 : 5:58:42 PM
have to agree with MinHe he does'nt look that bad he's just lacking a little top line, I have found pink powder works a treat for getting them looking good.
good luck with him he looks a nice sort
karen |
| MinHe |
Posted - 04 Aug 2011 : 5:26:46 PM
Hi - he doesn't look as bad as he sounded from your first email, and I think you are right when you say your think part of his lack of topline is lack of muscle condition. It sounds as if you are on the right track, but agree with the suggestions of rapeseed oil (veg oil) from the supermarket as a way of improving weight without fizz.
Best of luck with him - you sound committed and sensible!
Keren |
| TanyanChewy |
Posted - 04 Aug 2011 : 5:01:12 PM
Lots of good advice from everyone, just wanted to say he looks like a sweetie and hope he starts to flourish very soon. Enjoy your new boy! |
| complete novice |
Posted - 04 Aug 2011 : 4:57:21 PM
He's very pretty and I would guess he has already started to put on a bit of weight, it's good to hear he has a trusting nature. My mare was a a bit spooky when I got her though she's not a nervous horse it did take a while to get her to trust me and I have found a calmer helped, though not sure who it helped most lol. I put her on magnitude which seems to be more effective and a lot cheaper than Global Herbs calmer, she's very laid back now if fact I am more likely to jump at a strange noise than her. |
| sycorider |
Posted - 04 Aug 2011 : 4:45:33 PM
Thanks mate he will get unlimited love and attention thats for sure bless him he is so kind and gentle considering and I know he will come right in time x
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| Pasha |
Posted - 04 Aug 2011 : 4:43:56 PM
Oh bless him, no wonder he has dropped a bit to go from sale to new home to new mum in only a couple of months!
What you are doing sounds very sensible to me and I would just give him lots of TLC and time - not too much work until he's put on a bit of weight! Good luck with him, he looks a real sweetie x |
