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| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 15 Jun 2011 : 1:19:55 PM
let lose this morning when Charismma broke down his door and got out to the other horses! 2 year old colt was out with the mares and filly , charismma bounced the gate open ( if you lean on it from the outside it opens but not from the inside ) and proceeded to chase the horses around they all got out and ran off into my neighbours fields full of sheep 50in plus acres! followed by me having a mini heart attack !
two hours later and with the help of several neighbours I managed to catch a very exhausted crimbo who came off worse bitten and kicked by the mares , but the colt was unscathed ! they were all dripping with sweat but none the worse for their adventure. but as for the stallion ( who did get out once before ) I am going to have to get a better door and lock for his stable.
he is feeling very sore and sorry for himself. the vet is coming up later to check them.
had he been younger the outcome could have been a lot worse. luckily my colt is very submissive still and just turned tail and ran , but two stallions would have fought to to death ! ( I am getting too old for this  |
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| barbara.gregory |
Posted - 19 Jun 2011 : 4:39:26 PM
'He never let anyone forget that he was a stallion, but he never forgot that he was a gentleman'
Lovely quote and so true. Someeone who had come with his tractor to do some work for me had to go through the stallion's field and I had always told the farmer that he needed to let me know the night before that he was coming and I would keep the stallion in. He sent one of the farm hands, didn't tell me he would be coming and didn't tell the bloke that there was a stallion loose in the field. Farmhand openes the gate, climbed back in his tractor only to see 16 hands of Arab stallion streak out and across the raod into the field with the mares. It was bedlam. I was rung at work but there was no way I could have gone into the middle of the melee of flying hooves even if I had been there. By the time I got home a few hours later all was peace and tranquility with everyone grazing happily side by side and only a few cuts and scrapes fortunately.
In that situation no stallion is a gentleman and anyone that gets in the way risks being killed. however, once things have settled the stallion can be caught and brought in although as the mares were "boss" he had to wait his turn at the gate!
Barbara |
| lisa rachel |
Posted - 19 Jun 2011 : 4:14:47 PM
Originally posted by Jamana
Lisa Rachel and Lyndilou,reading your responses I can't help but think both of you have missed my point,but as the old saying goes 'there is none so blind as those who will not see'.The stallions behaviour that day is just what anyone who understands stallions could expect,it does not in anyway reflect badly on him it just shows that when it comes down to it his instinct will take over regardless of how much 'trust' you have in him.
Oh Jamama! please read my post, I made EXACTLY that point, his behaviour was not 'out of character' or 'unpredictable'.... these are YOUR words which I quoted, his behaviour was totally in character and normal for a stallion. I just felt that you were implying that this PROVED stallions cannot be trusted. Well...they can be trusted to behave like stallions, of course. However Lynda's point has always been that she trusts her stallion with people. I don't see why this episode should change that. This is why I said it did not reflect badly on him... we are talking about two entirely different things. I agree with you and always have that stallions can be dangerous and need competent handling but it will take more than repeated posts from you for me to change my view, based on long experience, that Arab stallions, in particular, when they respect and trust their owners can be very easy and pleasant horses to handle. I remember years ago reading an obituary for a stallion ... I think that it was Cranleigh Red Shadow (?)it said (paraphrasing)...'He never let anyone forget that he was a stallion, but he never forgot that he was a gentleman' Well put I think the two are not mutually exclusive!!! |
| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 19 Jun 2011 : 4:05:48 PM
Thanks Jamana I think you are/were stating the obvious though, and we havent missed the point, we already know this ( I still trust him not to hurt people though ) |
| Jamana |
Posted - 19 Jun 2011 : 12:16:49 PM
Lisa Rachel and Lyndilou,reading your responses I can't help but think both of you have missed my point,but as the old saying goes 'there is none so blind as those who will not see'.The stallions behaviour that day is just what anyone who understands stallions could expect,it does not in anyway reflect badly on him it just shows that when it comes down to it his instinct will take over regardless of how much 'trust' you have in him. |
| Patriot |
Posted - 19 Jun 2011 : 03:24:21 AM
LOL wow you had a busy day! So did Crimbo! Im happy no one - human or horse- was inured and all ended well!!
"secretly I think he had had enough of being a wild stallion for one day)"
^^^ this made me chuckle!  |
| Fee |
Posted - 18 Jun 2011 : 8:31:30 PM
Originally posted by LYNDILOU secretly I think he had had enough of being a wild stallion for one day
LOL |
| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 18 Jun 2011 : 8:25:31 PM
Thanks Lisa , yes for all the wild instinct displayed by Crimbo that day, he still would not have hurt a human being intentionally and in the end he let me walk up to him and put his head collar on then walked back sedately to his stable ( secretly I think he had had enough of being a wild stallion for one day) |
| lisa rachel |
Posted - 18 Jun 2011 : 6:09:29 PM
Originally posted by Jamana
Just goes to show that stallions can be unpredictable and act 'out of character'............
I don't see that this behaviour could be considered 'out of character' for any stallion, and certainly not unpredictable, if he gets a chance to get out of his stable and go after the girls of course he will!
It was just unlucky for Lynda that he broke the bolt of his stable.
What has been discussed before, as far as I am aware, is the behaviour of Arab stallions towards people and how some of us feel that many of them (properly trained) are particularly gentlemanly and pleasanter to be with than stallions of some other breeds... I don't think Crimbo's behaviour reflects badly on him at all... he is after all an entire male!
One more point, regarding bute, please don't give it if any cuts are near a joint , bursa or tendon sheath, it could mask the lameness induced by infection of that structure for a while, delaying treatment and worsening the prognosis, better to get them checked out first.
Cheers
Lisa |
| Foxtrot |
Posted - 18 Jun 2011 : 07:24:57 AM
Accidents happen, hope your boy is feeling better this morning?! My dominant mare jumped a 5 foot post/rail, climbed through a hedge and ditch once to get in with the local liveries on 20 acres of winter grazing, she caused merry hell but luckily no body was seriously injured. But she obviously needed to get out there and sort somebody out!! Fortunately the rest of our gang just stood and watched through the hedge!
The metacam should make him feel alot better, and if you have to give it orally its raspberry flavoured so quite palatable! Take care x |
| pinkvboots |
Posted - 17 Jun 2011 : 3:45:50 PM
Don't get down Lyndi things happen glad he is better today he will be fine. |
| arabianrio |
Posted - 17 Jun 2011 : 12:19:08 PM
So glad your lovely boy is better today
Sandy
East Sussex |
| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 17 Jun 2011 : 12:02:10 PM
thanks , he is fine today and apart from a little edema on his chest from the kick you wouldnt know he had been so poorly all is back to normal here again |
| Jamana |
Posted - 17 Jun 2011 : 10:30:37 AM
You could always drench him with bute if he won't eat any in his food,that way you know he has had the full dose. |
| LadyLuck1 |
Posted - 16 Jun 2011 : 9:05:46 PM
Bless him glad he will be ok, now they are all ok its time for you to open a bottle of wine.
mary |
| sab2 |
Posted - 16 Jun 2011 : 6:10:18 PM
Bless him i am so pleased that he is tucking into his tea and hopefully he will be back to his normal self in a few days time |
| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 16 Jun 2011 : 5:33:32 PM
No I didnt give him bute because he wasnt really eating much and he certainly wouldnt eat anything with bute in it , but the vet checked his heart today ( I was more worried he would have a heart attack ) that was fine , then he gave him a metacam injection , I have just left him tucking into his supper , so he is ok. just still very stiff and sore , thank you all for your kind concerns for him. |
| barbara.gregory |
Posted - 16 Jun 2011 : 5:04:30 PM
Did you give Crimbo any bute; that helps with the pain and inflammation overnight if it isn't urgent enough for a vet visit straight away. I am sure he will be feeling sorry for himself and a bit down for a few days but if there are no serious injuries he will be a lot better soon.
Hope he recovers soon (and you).
Regards
Barbara |
| avanti |
Posted - 16 Jun 2011 : 1:09:00 PM
Lynda, Sue is right accidents can happen even with the best laid plans,don't be down, I am sending healing wishes to Crimbo and hope he is better soon, just a funny little story from years ago,a loose gypsy cob stallion jumped my stable gate into the yard, headed straight for my stallion's paddock, barged thro the gate, heart in my mouth I grabbed a halter thinking would they injure each other or worse my boy did the one thing I wasn't expecting, took one look at this rampaging hairy thing in his field and turned tail and jumped the fence hared off up the farmers corn, we were able to catch the cob and then found my boy grazing quietly out of sight, clever boy, hugs to you and Crimbo, xx |
| SueB |
Posted - 16 Jun 2011 : 12:48:09 PM
Accidents can happen Lynda, hope Crimbo will be OK?
I have noticed that having a stallion on his own with 'his' mares can make them become quite protective and sometimes a bit 'male' if another colt is around around. We had problems in the past with Monty getting a strop on because of another colt being here. It's his place and his mares he doesn't like other males on the place. Maybe Crimbo is protesting or you just have to stop feeding him spinach!
Don't get upset or down, it'll be OK. |
| Callisto |
Posted - 16 Jun 2011 : 12:37:13 PM
Lynda, I do hope he is back to health asap, try and keep your spirits up - they all need you to be strong. |
| honey |
Posted - 16 Jun 2011 : 12:32:26 PM
we have found ros out a few times where i think someone let him out but luckily he just plods around, or stands and says hello to the mares. he was out one morning when i brought gizzy back from a hack and her in season but i just waved my hand at him and he grunted and walked off while i let gizzy take her self down the isle of her stable block. all could have been disasterous but been lucky so far. |
| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 16 Jun 2011 : 11:59:56 AM
vets coming today , I thought he wasnt too bad yesterday , but today he is very sore , very sad and shivery. that kick to the chest suggested he was trying to mount a mare indeed one has marks on her rump too! wondering what could have made him break the door and guard band , we thought maybe something frightened him from behind? my friend recons a large bird may have flown in his back window and startled him, because the force of damage to the door suggested a huge forced bolt at it ! it is a heavy door but the hinges where bent like plastic !
another thing that could have been nasty was they all crashed through my neighbours barbed wire and sheep netting fencing yet apart from a few scratches everyone was ok.
I have been feeling over whelmed by Lillys illness and the management of it and now all this, I am not sure how long I can cope  |
| barbara.gregory |
Posted - 16 Jun 2011 : 11:37:11 AM
Oh Lynda, what a nightmare; so lucky there was no serious damage. I am glad the colt kept out of harms way as a youngster would be no match for an older stallion, he could have been killed.
Someone opened the gates between my fields , must have been boys from one of the houses which backs onto the fields coming to get a football or something, didn't shut the gates properly again and my two stallions and some mares all got in together. Taz got his eye badly bitten, it was touch and go whether he would lose it, and was very kicked and bashed but apart from that no serius damage. He spent 10 days at the vets and a £2500 vet's bill but as I don'y know who the culprit was I had to pay. Fortunately the eye was saved and no ill effects. Needless to say the gates are all now chained and padlocked shut.
I will kmy stable doors although they are pretty sturdy and none of the boys has ever tried to barge out (even when I am at the door) but as you have found out one never knows when it could happen.
Barbara |
| Honeyb060674 |
Posted - 15 Jun 2011 : 11:41:03 PM
Horses eh?! 
Hope you've had a wee dram tonight, sounds as though you may have needed it after all the kerfuffle...so pleased no one was seriously hurt |
| honey |
Posted - 15 Jun 2011 : 11:36:27 PM
How awful, glad non was seriously hurt. |
