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| suyents |
Posted - 02 Mar 2011 : 6:31:41 PM
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| jaj |
Posted - 14 Mar 2011 : 7:32:13 PM
Brilliant - thanks for posting Sue  .
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| Red Rum |
Posted - 14 Mar 2011 : 7:00:26 PM
Latest from website
Latest relief efforts in Egypt - update from the field
(March 14th, 2011) Over the last month, the Brooke has distributed over 37,000kg of feed to nearly 3,000 animals and carried out nearly 11,000 veterinary treatments in Cairo, Edfu, Aswan and Luxor.
This weekend, the Brooke distributed feed and administered treatment to horses in Cairo, near the Pyramids and Aswan.
Providing food and treatment:
Cairo:
* 6,000kg of corn was distributed to over 850 horses, providing 1 weeks worth of meals
* 104 treatments were given, including de-worming, wound and hoof care
Aswan:
* 2,750kg of barley was distributed to 300 horses, providing 1 weeks worth of meals
* 71 treatments were given
Working with others
The Brooke is combining forces with the Donkey Sanctuary and the Egyptian Society for Animal Friends (ESAF) to ensure the best treatment of needy horses and donkeys across Egypt.
The Brooke has launched an urgent appeal to help working horses suffering as a result of the crisis in Egypt.
Donate towards our appeal and check out our photos on Flickr.
So great to know our money is making a difference - keep up the good work |
| Rozy Rider |
Posted - 11 Mar 2011 : 08:57:47 AM
Maybe Red Rum would update us after the supplies arrive and after the program of feeding for tomorrow and Sunday.
It does explain why they were not seem at Nazlet el Seman on Thursday
http://www.thebrooke.org/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=brooke%20animal&utm_content=mkwid|s9UoWaMGF|pcrid|7654635151|plid||kword|brooke%20animal|google|Brand+%28new%29|Brooke+Animal+Charity|Broad|g|||&utm_campaign=Brand+%28new%29&mckv=mkwid%7Cs9UoWaMGF%7Cpcrid%7C7654635151%7Cplid%7C%7Ckword%7Cbrooke+animal
From the Brooke site. Crisis in Egypt.
Home News and Comments Press centre Latest relief efforts in Egypt - update from the field
(10.03.11) Over the last month, the Brooke has distributed over 28,000kg of feed to nearly 2,000 animals and carried out more than 10,000 veterinary treatments in Cairo, Edfu, Aswan and Luxor.
Food distribution in Aswan scheduled for today (10.03.11) was unavoidably postponed, with the local feed seller having insufficient supplies to provide Brooke’s share of feed stock. Food distribution has been re-planned for this Saturday 12 March and another food distribution will be carried out in Cairo near the Pyramids on Sunday 13 March.
Working with others
The Brooke is combining forces with the Donkey Sanctuary and the Egyptian Society for Animal Friends (ESAF) to ensure the best treatment of needy horses and donkeys across Egypt.
The Brooke has launched an urgent appeal to help working horses suffering as a result of the crisis in Egypt.
Providing food
So far we have given 7kg food packs to:
• 830 owners and horses in Giza
• 345 owners and horses in Edfu
• 100 owners and horses in Aswan
• 700 owners and horses in Luxor
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a total of 1975 horses.
Thank you.
Sue |
| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 11 Mar 2011 : 08:40:50 AM
So it doesn't sound like they have decided not to feed anymore does it? I will call them again today  |
| Red Rum |
Posted - 10 Mar 2011 : 6:58:13 PM
Latest from website
Latest relief efforts in Egypt - update from the field
(10.03.11) Over the last month, the Brooke has distributed over 28,000kg of feed to nearly 2,000 animals and carried out more than 10,000 veterinary treatments in Cairo, Edfu, Aswan and Luxor.
Food distribution in Aswan scheduled for today (10.03.11) was unavoidably postponed, with the local feed seller having insufficient supplies to provide Brooke’s share of feed stock. Food distribution has been re-planned for this Saturday 12 March and another food distribution will be carried out in Cairo near the Pyramids on Sunday 13 March. |
| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 10 Mar 2011 : 5:42:55 PM
I was told by them that the would put up a statement today on A/lines ! I can only hope this will soon be forthcoming ! they also told me that the feed day was thursday ! |
| Rozy Rider |
Posted - 10 Mar 2011 : 5:24:43 PM
Well Done Lynda, Sounds Great. I've baked cakes today and will try and take a donation for a slice of cake when I go to he ride at the weekend.
Facebook reports that ESMA was in Nazlet El Seman this morning and that it was Brooke's feed day there, No sign of them... so thats a bit sad..
Hope someone will update us.
Sue |
| Smiler |
Posted - 10 Mar 2011 : 4:36:57 PM
WOW that sounds great well done your friend and you too !  |
| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 10 Mar 2011 : 4:22:10 PM
I have been out with a good friend today for lunch/meeting where we have come up with an idea to raise money, she has a huge pool house at her place ( bigger than our house !) and we are going to arrange to have a summer BBQ and auction night there, tickets sold on the door to include food and drink , then to auction things .
she has a friend who has offered a weekend break for two, and lots of offers are coming for the auction prizes. ( free driving lesson is another offer )
we hope to be able to raise lots of money which will all go to the three charities mentioned here , the Brooke , the PAF and ESMA if that goes well we will do a murder mystery evening too ! again all proceeds going to these charities.
she was really pleased that I had alerted her to this suffering as although she has horses, she had no idea about what is happening in other countries. |
| Rozy Rider |
Posted - 10 Mar 2011 : 1:24:36 PM
No one is bickering.
We think the volunteers on the spot in Egypt are doing a Great job. Just look at the numbers that were fed from Day 1.
I wish we were nearer, I'd be there myself helping.
Maybe Red Rum will update us on Brooke's position in Egypt regarding the feeding.
and I think there is a bit of a report due out today in the H & H, which features the Brooke's work there. Wonder if that is the position or not.
The Local Brooke Group in Shropshire have collected and sent £1000.
Thanks Sue
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| Goldenmane |
Posted - 10 Mar 2011 : 1:05:36 PM
I sent money straight to Esma by phone, but I also have an HSBC account which I think made it easier. |
| Smiler |
Posted - 10 Mar 2011 : 12:30:02 PM
totally agree with lynda there is enough room for all charities the more helping the better for the horses and as far as im aware it was some kind of mistake like i said before but we have to wait for brooke to make a statement to say they are still feeding etc i know brooke were slow on the ground to start with but they are feeding now which is the main thing i'm not sure who is bickering ? have i missed something ? i think we can all make our minds up and some donate to them all im not in that possition to donate to them all i wish i was i have done to esma only coz i saw them on the ground feeding etc but this may change once beth gets back from playing camels lol and puts up her statement |
| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 10 Mar 2011 : 12:00:46 PM
I agree Jen , but I am hoping the Brooke will come on here to defend themselves, because putting down a charity is very damaging , unless there is sound evidence to do so .
There is enough room for ALL the charities to help these horses , in fact the more there are the more chances the horses will have to get food and much needed treatment . |
| SueB |
Posted - 10 Mar 2011 : 11:54:26 AM
It seems what a lot of people in the UK want is an easy way to send money and to make sure it goes to help the starving horses direct.
I know of a few who would send funds but having to get to their bank which like me is several miles away is not easy. You also get fagged at having to actually find time to do this.
I thought anyone could set up to be a recipient of a PayPal account?
I have sent funds via PayPal to a friend as a gift?? I don't understand the problems people are having here. |
| jaj |
Posted - 10 Mar 2011 : 11:44:33 AM
Do you know I find it quite sickening watching all this bickering taking place on here. It's utterly pathetic that the charities are in-fighting with each other and trying to score points, too many big egos clashing - for god's sake give it a rest - it's not a competition as to who is the best charity and/or who is feeding the most in the most public places - as though the situation weren't depressing enough in the first place - unbelievable and utterly unproductive  .
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| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 10 Mar 2011 : 10:58:46 AM
I believe the Brooke are going to be posting the facts today on Alines , so watch for the update . |
| Red Rum |
Posted - 10 Mar 2011 : 10:58:00 AM
Here is the reply from my email last night
Please be assured that the Brooke is continuing to hand out feed - we are handing out one week packs which may have led to some confusion amongst some people who assumed that this mean we were no longer in the field. If you have access to Facebook, my colleagues are providing regular updates on our work in Egypt on our Facebook page and also on our website.
We will continue to provide feed for animals and we are still working to treat animals in Egypt
Thank you for your support and also for your clear compassion for working equines suffering in Egypt
Kind Regards Anna Clarke |
| suyents |
Posted - 10 Mar 2011 : 10:08:01 AM
Lynda, i have no intention of phoning the Brooke in the UK when so many if concerned A-Liners are doing that already. (I only have my mobile here and connections are difficult at best and i do not want to be put on HOLD for a long time. sorry.)
Since i am in Jordan i cannot claim to KNOW anything about the situation in Egypt, i can only rely on the reports from people i trust, like all of us do.
What i DO know is that there is no Brooke-funded vet on site in Petra, and there has not been for several months. The only Brooke employee is an "Office Manager" who is NOT hands on at all when it comes to helping animals in need. The Brooke clinic when i visited two weeks ago had rows of empty medical supply boxes on display to "impress the visitors", as i was told by a vet-nurse who works for the ministry. These boxes were dated 2003, 2005 and had no more recent dates.
It is not the fact that the Brooke have handed over responsibility that annoys me but the fact that they LIE about it, (on the phone if not on their web-site) mis-representing themselves to people like you, and benefitting from people's generosity.
I too hope that there is a good and charitable reason for the Brooke no longer feeding at the site in Egypt. Maybe they have simply run out of money!! |
| Rozy Rider |
Posted - 10 Mar 2011 : 12:00:33 AM
ESMA 's Summary of Horse Feeding for February.
1.13th February (first ‘Horse Feeding’ day) This is the only figure we are not 100% sure of as the stable owner recorded this figure to identify those horse owners who were worthy of the horse feed – number of horses fed 400-450 horses enough to last 2 days.
2.15th February – (the day our food was looted) – 203 horses for one day
3.16th February – 317 horses for 2 days
4.18th February – 356 horses for 2 days
5.20th February – 180 horses for 3 days
6.23rd February – 404 horses for 4 days
7.27/28th February – 462 horses for 7 days (we calculated here that Brooke was giving 1k a day = 7k which represents for us 3 days of minimum amount feeding, we gave them 10k per horse to supplement Brooke’s 7 kilos….)
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Continued help with feeding and treatment will continue ( I understand) until all the funds run out.
So please if you can and want to help the starving Horses, Donkeys and now Camels, please donated, every £1 helps.
The ESMA team of volunteers are working daily to help these animal and all the cats & dogs abandoned, which runs into hundreds.
Another Call for Help: Cats & Dogs too.
http://www.animalsasia.org/index.php?UID=F9E8GZ8QHMQ
http://www.esmaegypt.org/
HSBC has an account already set up for UK Donations to ESMA.
Sort Code: 403412. Account: 81868349.
This account will also take DD. or cash can be paid straight in.
Thank You.
Sue
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| jaj |
Posted - 09 Mar 2011 : 9:57:09 PM
I'm sure that there is more to this than meets the eye. I for one won't be withdrawing my support from The Brooke unless there is irrefutable proof or an unsatisfactory response to the claims.
Maybe they are feeding in a different area? I was going to say I would also ring them tomorrow but it's a pointless waste of their resources for the office to be answering multiple calls from concerned aliners.
Maybe one of us could post their response on here if they got through today or yesterday?
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| Smiler |
Posted - 09 Mar 2011 : 9:40:59 PM
thats fine lynda but regarding the esma thing please check beth sartains page tomorrow for news it will be all good for the horses so ive been assured but as said can't say no more |
| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 09 Mar 2011 : 9:37:55 PM
I am not going to do anything until I have proof that this IS the case , they say they ( the Brooke ) are still feeding so until I find out for sure I am not going to stop paying into what must surely be a worthy charity. ( as well as ESMA and PAF)
if someone can give me positive proof that they have stopped then I assure you I will! |
| Smiler |
Posted - 09 Mar 2011 : 9:37:46 PM
I cannot say anything but anyone wanting to donate to esma for the horses please hold off till beth has posted a statement tomorrow then decide who to donate too
regarding the brooke i think this rumour maybe wrong just wait and see on that one too |
| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 09 Mar 2011 : 9:12:36 PM
Suyen , why dont you phone them and fid out? |
| Callisto |
Posted - 09 Mar 2011 : 9:01:26 PM
Switching my donations to solely to ESMA rather than the Brooke (was doing both), plus PAF. |
