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Posted - 25 Feb 2011 : 12:22:00 PM
ESMA - 5478 people like this page if we all give £1 donation on Feb 28th 2011 thats £5478
LETS DO IT x x x
Just thought i would put thi up as a different thread for anyone who does not check on ESMA regulary on monday there will be a mass donation of £1 if everyone who has liked the face book site donates £1 that will be a massive £5478 !!!!!!!
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| sasha |
Posted - 15 Jun 2011 : 2:59:43 PM
Here is a reply I got from Brooke today after emailing them and telling them to get their act together and feed these starving horses again.
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Dear Mrs Sumpner,
Thank you for your email. I can understand your concerns with the poor condition of some horses in Egypt. They are concerns that we do share here at the Brooke and I hope to explain to you the work which has been carried out in Egypt in recent months.
The Brooke has assessed the situation carefully, and together with The Donkey Sanctuary and Egyptian Society for Animal Friends (ESAF), agreed that the emergency feeding programme would come to an end on 21 April. The Brooke team in Egypt has also met with community leaders several times over the past few months with whom we have trusted and long running relationships and agreed on the date the programme would finish.
During the crisis the Brooke provided feed and treatment, as part of an emergency response to the crisis. We also worked closely with owners to help ensure proper care for their animals. The Brooke provided feed for horses, donkeys and mules affected by the collapse of the tourist industry in Cairo, Aswan, Edfu and Luxor. In total 90,000kg of feed was distributed and over 28,000 veterinary treatments carried out (between February and 21 April) and we believe that feeding can be a valuable emergency solution. However we are confident that responding to these drops in tourism with free food longer-term will not solve the problem. It does not address how animals are cared for (which our education and training programmes seek to do) and it could increase the owners’ dependency, as well as create an unlimited need for free food year round.
The decision to bring the emergency programme to an end was based on the improved tourism situation – whilst the industry has not yet fully recovered, the situation for these animals overall has stabilised. The Egyptian Ministry of Tourism has stated that the tourists are starting to visit Egypt again, meaning animal owners are able to start earning an income again.
We know that some animals remain in a poor state of health, particularly in the area of the Pyramids. This is something that all of us at the Brooke, including our Cairo team, care greatly about and are monitoring closely. Sadly, some animals were in poor condition before the crisis, that’s why the Brooke was already working in this area. Unfortunately simply providing these animals with free food will not solve the problem, particularly in the long term.
The Brooke is continuing to deliver its local veterinary services and community animal health programmes in Egypt, and is supporting communities to look after their working horses and donkeys in a sustainable way. Our programme in Egypt works with more than 190 communities, across seven regions: Cairo, Luxor, Aswan, Edfu, Alexandria, Marsa Matrouh and the Nile Delta.
The Brooke has worked to build a sustainable programme in Cairo and across Egypt over the last few years. We are working with the animal owners to change attitudes and behaviour, which is crucial in order to empower owners to be able to look after their animals and ultimately improve the condition of these animals permanently.
I hope this explains our long term goals in Egypt and across the developing world. Your comments will be taken very seriously and I can assure you that the Brooke are frequently reviewing the situation in Egypt to assess what actions should be taken.
Kind regards
Philip Aston
Supporter Care
The Brooke
30 Farringdon Street
London EC4A 4HH
Main: 0203 0123 456
Email: info@thebrooke.org
Web: www.thebrooke.org
‘Healthy working animals for the world’s poorest communities’
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| Rozy Rider |
Posted - 09 Jun 2011 : 12:46:49 AM
Egyption Society for the Mercy of Animal.
Latest URGENT APPEAL FOR HORSE FEEDING.
URGENT PLEASE READ Please be aware that not everybody in the photographs is directly connected with the horse. We have many Egyptian helpers on the day. I was unable to stay the whole day on Saturday. What was very apparent was that the number of horses ...that came was a lot more than we have seen for 3 weeks? There are a few reasons for this, Brooke have stopped their feeding days, tourist numbers visiting from Europe were down, The Easter and half term holidays are over, the temperature is steadily rising to uncomfortable. This meant the small rations that we give out were in high demand. It is now entering the “Low season” from May to September is widely acknowledged as a time when tourist numbers are always low. It is very hot and not contusive with spending time in the desert. Just as we thought we were winning the battle it now seems like we have a longer haul than we first expected. It is very sad that we have to announce that we only have funding to be able to hold 2 more horse feeding days and that is based on us only dealing with the 400 horses we have seen the last four weeks. We really appreciate all the support we have received, it costs around £1,400 or $2,100 a week to supply feed for these animals. We will have exhausted all the funding we have received in 2 weeks time. As you can see there are still a lot of desperate cases that need your support. We have managed to build up a lot of trust and have made great in roads into the education of many people in the area, rather than have to stop we need to cement these bonds. We cannot walk away now. Please spread the word and please if you can spare something it would be so beneficial. If you can make a donation it is very important that you mark you donation FOR THE HORSES. This is so we can identify where it is pledged too. We have also engaged the services of Dr Mohammed a Vet he will be on hand every Saturday for as long as we can carry on. He has a huge knowledge of equine problems and will be there first hand to help the sick and needy horses. See more
by: ESMA 'Egyptian Society for Mhttp://www.esmaegypt.org/
Account for UK Donation.(Mark for the Starving Horses).
HSBC (UK) Bank.
Sort Code: 403412
Account: 81868349
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Pics from Sunday 5.6.11.
 Take the bit out so she can eat. Feed day 5.6.11.
  
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| suyents |
Posted - 07 Jun 2011 : 7:47:18 PM
Rozy Rider,
the DS already know what is realy happening in Cairo, they have done for months....
i seem to remember that the B. recently were the benefactors of a large legacy?..perhaps their members could ask them to direct some of that largesse towards Egypt? Particularly since Dorothy Brooke would be appalled by the thought that her charity was not involved in a pro-active manner out there at this time........ |
| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 07 Jun 2011 : 6:19:09 PM
aww Marte IS an Angel , She is also a very beautiful belly dancer   I am going to try and get over to Egypt later on this year and will definitely visit with her although I dont want to make promises in case I cant keep them , but it is on my wish list to do this year . |
| Goldenmane |
Posted - 07 Jun 2011 : 07:15:01 AM
I also had my invite to Donkey Sanctuary but very rarely manage to leave my animals. Marte sounds like an angel. What is the answer, who would consider riding a horse like this or encouraging the tourist trade? I despair. |
| Rozy Rider |
Posted - 06 Jun 2011 : 5:17:08 PM
Good News for one poor grey horse, Rescued at last feed day .. now living it up in a clean stable water & food and a good bath.. he's wondering what the hell is going on.. There was a message somewhere to say..don't shoot the horse..shoot the owner.. well horse rescued and support has gone to help sponsor this horse from some of the GB girls and he is looking good.. will post some pics, later.
 Fluffy Kareem.. Pic taken in May, now Rescued and in Marte's loving care and joins Na Na.....
In the Long Term things are looking really bad..The ESMA feed money is almost run out....more money needed by ESMA to cover costs of grain or Nuts to continue feeding the 300 to 600 horses still in desperate need of food and treatment.ONLY ENOUGH MONEY TO COVER TWO MORE FEED DAYS...... URGENT HELP / FUNDS NEEDED.
Where is Brooke!!!!!!!!! Brooke Cairo have backed off... stopped feeding and not even turning up to give free treatment to the needy horses.. A great pity and a devastating blow to the horse population of Egypt, especially these in the Giza area, who we have all become familiar with over the last three and a half months through these feed days and Colin Ball's photographs...
I'm invited to the Mrs Svension memorial Day at The Donkey sanctuary.. anyone want to come...we could brief them of what's really happening in Cairo..
Rozy |
| Smiler |
Posted - 06 Jun 2011 : 08:34:24 AM
 not good at all |
| Rozy Rider |
Posted - 06 Jun 2011 : 12:49:24 AM
Latest URGENT APPEAL FOR HORSE FEEDING.
URGENT PLEASE READ Please be aware that not everybody in the photographs is directly connected with the horse. We have many Egyptian helpers on the day. I was unable to stay the whole day on Saturday. What was very apparent was that the number of horses ...that came was a lot more than we have seen for 3 weeks? There are a few reasons for this, Brooke have stopped their feeding days, tourist numbers visiting from Europe were down, The Easter and half term holidays are over, the temperature is steadily rising to uncomfortable. This meant the small rations that we give out were in high demand. It is now entering the “Low season” from May to September is widely acknowledged as a time when tourist numbers are always low. It is very hot and not contusive with spending time in the desert. Just as we thought we were winning the battle it now seems like we have a longer haul than we first expected. It is very sad that we have to announce that we only have funding to be able to hold 2 more horse feeding days and that is based on us only dealing with the 400 horses we have seen the last four weeks. We really appreciate all the support we have received, it costs around £1,400 or $2,100 a week to supply feed for these animals. We will have exhausted all the funding we have received in 2 weeks time. As you can see there are still a lot of desperate cases that need your support. We have managed to build up a lot of trust and have made great in roads into the education of many people in the area, rather than have to stop we need to cement these bonds. We cannot walk away now. Please spread the word and please if you can spare something it would be so beneficial. If you can make a donation it is very important that you mark you donation FOR THE HORSES. This is so we can identify where it is pledged too. We have also engaged the services of Dr Mohammed a Vet he will be on hand every Saturday for as long as we can carry on. He has a huge knowledge of equine problems and will be there first hand to help the sick and needy horses. See more
by: ESMA 'Egyptian Society for Mhttp://www.esmaegypt.org/
Account for UK Donation.(Mark for the Starving Horses).
HSBC (UK) Bank.
Sort Code: 403412
Account: 81868349
ercy to Animals'
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| Smiler |
Posted - 28 May 2011 : 10:46:45 AM
Dear all,
ESAF is continuing to hold three clinics a week at the Pyramids area,
animals were fed and treated.The situation in the Pyramids are was
starting to look better a number of tourists were seen in the area,
however due to the widely publicized unrest between Moslem's and
Christians the situation has returned to how it was just after the
revolution, 80% of the tourist who had intended to travel to Egypt canceled.
We learned recently that Brooke did not fulfill their intention to feed
the needy animals, as they agreed and they have not fed any animals
since my last report a month ago.
ESAF was fortunate to receive a recent donation a member which has
allowed us to make some animal accessories which will be distributed
free, i.e. nose bands, fly masks, camel tail guards and hawaya ( saddle
pads), all are demonstrated in the attached photos.
Today the 26th May ESAF held the second work shop in our awareness
program , the program included, complaints received relating to cruelty
to the animals in the area, explaining the content of the the recently
printed leaflet and the folded leaflet aimed at the animal owners and
information regarding how to recognize and prevent common disease. In
addition every person who attended, received 5 Kg of dry ration.
Animals treated over the last month:
972 Horse
263 Camel
720 animals were fed
Best regards
Ahmed El Sherbiny
ESAF Chairperson
( THIS IS TAKEN FROM ESAF FACEBOOK PAGE ) |
| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 25 May 2011 : 08:15:41 AM
I have sent the link over to her through FB |
| Rozy Rider |
Posted - 25 May 2011 : 02:12:27 AM
Can you let her know Sasha??
Just had my first donation handed over tonight £50 on its way to ESMA and the starving horses..Keep it coming folks, they'll be a long time dead..
Thank You
Sue |
| sasha |
Posted - 24 May 2011 : 10:27:32 AM
Just wondering if Princess Aliyah is aware that ESMA's money is running out.. thought she was going to get involved with these poor horses?? |
| Rozy Rider |
Posted - 23 May 2011 : 5:27:42 PM
Jacki,There is nothing disgusting about it..or maybe just the one thing..The Brooke was set up by Dorothy Brooke in 1932-1934 to help the Egyptian horses. Today (since 20th April) the Brooke have pulled out and stopped feeding..when we can all see there is still A GREAT NEED.....
You need to read the whole story which started in February after the riots and the folks in the pics don't look like owners to me, except two children.
We are all desperately trying to help this situation, negative thought are not going to help. Donations,for food,treatment,education and learning will. If they don't get more money to continue the feeding, many of these horses and donkeys will die..They wont need any programme then.
We all love horses.. and don't forget Britain left hundreds of horses out there to suffer after the first world war...Many of these horses could be descendants of the British War Horses. Horse were commandeered to serve the country, 700 went from one small village in Yorkshire.
Donations Please.
http://www.esmaegypt.org/
HSBC (UK)
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| jackiedo |
Posted - 23 May 2011 : 2:32:44 PM
I was referring to "unwanted" and seriously injured cats and dogs, not potential working animals. I would love to see more direct feeding rather than giving bags to take away, that could be sold on |
| Goldenmane |
Posted - 23 May 2011 : 2:22:30 PM
If all the animals were culled they would only be replaced (and personally I would rather cull the owners). Tourist trade is looking up which makes my heart sink... |
| jackiedo |
Posted - 23 May 2011 : 2:06:02 PM
this is disgusting. I don't know what the answer is to be honest, the BEST thing would be for these owners to take responsibility for their own animals, very few of the owners look hungry |
| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 23 May 2011 : 1:13:41 PM
Sue I have sent a zipped attachment of all the wretched horses to the press at the Brooke and asked them to step in, I dont know if they will but we have to try something ! |
| Rozy Rider |
Posted - 23 May 2011 : 1:05:05 PM
Brooke Pulls Out and Wants No Part of FEEDING them....so where do they go from here. They will STARVE to Death..as they were in February right under every ones noses.
Thank Goodness we are seeing what is happening and ESMA are/have done their best, what we see is the Truth, these pictures are just a few days old and tell the precise story of the state of affairs in Giza.
How can the Brooke ignore these horses, how can they say there is no need, Bones sticking out, Open backs and open wounds, they are there for everyone to see. Take a good look, Brooke say everything here is fine and no animal is starving to death. What is the point in Brooke having a station out in Cairo, if it's not working for the horses & Donkeys, what is the good of everyone in GB paying into the Brooke, when the animals are looking like this and not getting the Brooke Support.
Thank God for ESMA,
Send your Money to ESMA without delay, they are the only folks volunteers feeding these horse now.. Brooke' dropped out..all the photographs on the Brooke site are from February... and don't tell the up to date position/story. Brooke' dropped out..all the photographs on the Brooke site are from February... and don't tell the up to date position/story.
What do you want them to do Lynda.
Rozy.
Please do the right thing and Send your spare money here:-
ESMA.Link You can also pay direct with your Pay pal. which goes straight to ESMA at Egypt.
http://www.esmaegypt.org/
Account for UK Donation.
HSBC (UK) Bank.
Sort Code: 403412
Account: 81868349
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| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 23 May 2011 : 12:31:09 PM
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| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 23 May 2011 : 12:30:36 PM
I would put money on the fact this is pure bred Arabian, possibly
sold cheaply or even given away from a local Arabian stud( this can happen when they cull their rejects) Possibly too long in the back for breeding? ) take a good look would you want your horses to end up like this?
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| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 23 May 2011 : 12:17:00 PM
DREAR GOD IN HEAVEN ! if you are there at all ,please dont let this mare return to work , please dont let them put a saddle back on her , if there is any mercy left on this earth please dont turn away from her .
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| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 23 May 2011 : 11:27:25 AM
also I dont see how our gala event will happen as we have only sold 70 tickets and thats only on a promise, we havent actually sold them or taken the money ! no one has paid up apart from a handful ! I have asked them to give me the UK contact they said would help posting the halters ( they weigh a ton !) no answer so far ! |
| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 23 May 2011 : 11:21:02 AM
I have found out that the money they got for the cat smile thing is going into building a new animal shelter ! but that will be for the small animals , not the horses and donkeys |
| Smiler |
Posted - 23 May 2011 : 11:01:48 AM
lynda i think the 3 charirties came together to write a document and thinggs regarding the dog thrown off the bridge and other cruelity things not to help each other with feeding etc , and they dont want to walk away as they say but if there is no money left for the horses what can they do i know they have had a payout but im sure its going to good use maybe medical things and food for the dogs and cats they are in a desperate situation at the moment anything we can do to help would be of benefit to them we really need to make sure your do comes of lynda otherwise i dont know 
p.s no they are fed on the day and take food with them but as said new cases turn up all the time i do think a large proportion do look better than they did just some dont seem to improve much or the new ones are bad |
| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 23 May 2011 : 09:02:04 AM
this is horrendous Sue, they cant just walk away now!
to be honest I havent seen much in the way of improvement in the condidtion of the horses, are they only being fed on the feed days? does that mean they dont get to eat on the other days? what happened to the amalgamation of the other charities? why are they not helping? what happened to the large payout recently recieved? |
