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| moorse |
Posted - 25 Feb 2010 : 09:31:14 AM
I have a 14.3hh 9yr old pure bred arab gelding that I am thinking of selling this year. Do you think I should start advertising him now or wait until the weather picks up a bit - will people be more inclined to buy then? Dont want to waste money on advertising now if the market is slow.
Also do you think £2800 is a fair price for him? He is a good allrounder with no vices but I would like to find him a home with someone who understands arabs and their quirks!
Any advice on writing a good advert and screening timewasters would be much appreciated - I havent sold a horse in a while |
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| Susie T |
Posted - 02 Mar 2010 : 09:16:33 AM
Thanks for letting me know - I will re-submit my advert today. |
| Rui |
Posted - 01 Mar 2010 : 7:54:47 PM
Originally posted by Susie TI am in a very similar position as "Bernie" - looking for a very similar type of horse. I have submitted 2 Wanted adverts over the last 3 - 4 weeks and neither have appeared yet. Can anyone tell me if I am doing it incorrectly as I notice that the Wanted Ads were updated yesterday??? 
I am sorry if your ads didn't show up. Some of the problems Paula is facing made have caused the loss of emails, so please resubmit your ad, as I understand that, as far as Paula is concerned, ads are now up to date.
Thank you. |
| suyents |
Posted - 01 Mar 2010 : 7:47:28 PM
Susie T..have you "refreshed" your page? i did yesterday and a whole new world jumped out at me!! |
| rosie |
Posted - 28 Feb 2010 : 2:30:14 PM
susie T - I think Paula has had computer problems lately. Send her a pm - shes very helpful.
Lisa |
| Susie T |
Posted - 28 Feb 2010 : 12:12:00 PM
I am in a very similar position as "Bernie" - looking for a very similar type of horse. I have submitted 2 Wanted adverts over the last 3 - 4 weeks and neither have appeared yet. Can anyone tell me if I am doing it incorrectly as I notice that the Wanted Ads were updated yesterday??? |
| alethea |
Posted - 28 Feb 2010 : 10:11:04 AM
Karen
I would also not sell to the first person who came along with the money if i didnt think the horse was right for them.
I have been very lucky in that way. I usually get alot of enquiries about each horse for sale so can be picky about who they go to.
Sometimes for me though, as im selling for other people the final decision of who the horse goes to doesnt rest with me, its up to the actual owner. I can only give my advise
Alethea
Aristotle Arabians |
| nissibay |
Posted - 28 Feb 2010 : 09:55:13 AM
suyents!!! that made me chuckle!!!!! i dont understand why people would do all that then not turn up. its easier to not enquire about a horse your not going to end up seeing than enquiring isnt it??? makes me laugh do they just do it for the buzz!!!!!!!!!!!! p.ratts |
| suyents |
Posted - 28 Feb 2010 : 09:37:51 AM
My partner says that prospective buyers of Arab horses most be the unluckiest people on earth...just before they are due to honour their arrangement to see a horse they have unexpected deaths, divorces, sick children and written off vehicles..... ...No cynicism there then!!! |
| phoenixbruka |
Posted - 27 Feb 2010 : 3:02:48 PM
Bernie, why don't you put a wanted ad on here ? I put exactly what I wanted when I was looking for a youngster to take a bit of the strain from my older boy and I couldn't have asked for anything better !
A dream of a horse and just as well behaved as my 18yr old, I wouldn't have anything other then a purebred.
Why not contact some of the crabbet breeders and see if they have anything for sale?
Crabbets are bred to work and not just look pretty  ( both of mine are high % crabbet and have temperaments to walk the earth looking for)
Best of luck in your search
susie |
| karen d |
Posted - 27 Feb 2010 : 11:10:43 AM
My point of the post was, that i 'personally' dont think that putting no timewasters on the advert makes you seem unapproachable!!
I could have sold my filly ten times over, But I WIL NOT just sell to the first person that comes along just because they have the money!!!!
My adverts are always very accurate and also very honest.
Alethea you have been very lucky there are hundreds of 'good' horses out there for sale, and there also alot of not so good!!
there are also alot of people who will happily just sell to the first person who comes along with a cheque book, but im afraid i am not one of them
as i have said i will continue to say no timewasters, and no doubt i will still get people who have nothing better to do than waste my time!! |
| alethea |
Posted - 27 Feb 2010 : 10:22:27 AM
Karen,
Drop me an email aristotlearabians@hotmail.co.uk
I do not want to get in trouble from the mods on here for advertising etc
Alethea
Aristotle Arabians |
| karen s |
Posted - 27 Feb 2010 : 10:19:11 AM
alethea do you want to sell mine for me she is a quality show filly at a good price especially since i paid double and airfare from the usa |
| alethea |
Posted - 27 Feb 2010 : 10:14:56 AM
Karen
From what you have said, you have given another reason why there is no point putting no timewasters on your advert as you still get them!!
I completely agree with what Roseanne has said.
I disagree its a bad time to sell. I have sold 6 horses for clients in the past 2 months and have 2 more sales pending. As i said before, good horses will sell no matter what time of year it is
Alethea
Aristotle Arabians |
| Roseanne |
Posted - 27 Feb 2010 : 10:03:42 AM
You're never going to stop 'timewasters' if they are ignorant (whether well-meaning or in the negative sense).
If they don't understand how colour development works or that a 2-y-o isn't old enough to be ridden, you're not going to put them off by saying 'no timewasters' because they won't recognise themselves as likely to waste your time.
I'd say it is a good idea to write a page of accurate, honest detail about your horse/yearling/foal and send it to anyone who expresses an interest. I went down that route in minute detail when trying to place a horse with special needs last year. There's not a lot you can say in a short advert so you have to be prepared to take time to inform and filter applicants. You owe it to your horse to take that time... |
| s.jade |
Posted - 27 Feb 2010 : 09:10:30 AM
I had 2 advertised recently, and it seems everyone wants something for othing
I have a quality 2yr old colt to sell, only selling him as I have his mother, but only to the right place, and I still get people phoning asking: if he hacks alone, is he suitable for a first pony, or what are his foals like?? |
| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 27 Feb 2010 : 09:04:00 AM
How many of us have heard" I really want your horse , but I have a couple of my own to sell first, so what happens when they tire of my horse? |
| karen d |
Posted - 27 Feb 2010 : 08:46:06 AM
I dont think that putting 'no timewasters' on an advert makes you unapproachable!! i put it on mine and will continue to do so, although it doesnt stop total idiots phoning me up.
i appreciate people need to ask lots of questions etc etc and i am more than happy to answer anything, but what i cannot tolerate is people who havent got a clue how to look afetr a dead cat let alone a living animal!!!
I have had people phoning about my yearling filly asking if she is broken, does she like hunting, how high can she jump,
i had people come out to see her that after 2 very long telephone conversations, seemed like they were half sensible!! they turned up here in WHITE trainers didnt know how to lead a horse, wanted to know if she was going to grow any more, and wondered why she didnt know how to kiss on the lips properly!!!!!!!!
i kid you not
For my chestnut filly i had an awful lot of interest, and one in particular springs to mind, is someone who after numerous phone calls, lots of emails, lots of extra pictures of this and that!! arranged to come and view, then at the last minute i had the question ' is she going to stay chestnut, cos i really wanted a bay'
i could go on and on and on!! and im sure many of you have similar stories to tell
dont get me wrong i like nothing more than to talk horse, and any one is more than welcome here to look at the horses at any time, although dont come here, ever, in white trainers!!!
i have been very very lucky over the years in that EVERY horse i have sold, whether its my own or a breaker that has come in for selling on, i still to this day know where each and everyone of them are
I think its a very bad time of year for buying or selling to be honest
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| Callisto |
Posted - 26 Feb 2010 : 10:27:09 PM
Just a thought for those searching for a ridden horse, I put an ad on here last year in the wanted section describing what I was looking for, and got a number of responses, some of these were from people who were not necessarily actively advertising their horses.
My sister got her gelding on loan through the wanted column too, and she is absolutely delighted with him. |
| moonlight |
Posted - 26 Feb 2010 : 9:53:00 PM
Bernie, they are out there, my homebred 18yo mare is a wonderful friend and companion who will go anywhere I ask, she has done dressage, jumping, xc, hunting, pleasure rides and RDA. That isn't to say that she won't sometimes spook at a dock leaf but never anything unseating, she has been my horse of a lifetime and I hope to have her for many more years. I now have a 4yo who has a wonderful temperament and has done everything asked of her, also a relatively green 7yo- I have every hope that these two will turn out to be wonderful riding horses like my old mare. And I have a yearling filly who will lead anywhere and whist being alert to everything around her will approach with confidence and curiosity. I think a grea deal comes from the handling and some is genetic. The right one will find you! |
| bernie |
Posted - 26 Feb 2010 : 9:07:19 PM
Debs your obviously much missed lad sounds the sort of horse I am hoping for in pursuing my arab dream; thank you for the reassurance that they do exist.
I do see your point about youngsters but i would not feel confident to take one on, sadly. If i did then i would go and see HS Masquil for sale on here who is not grey but has the sweetest face! |
| debs |
Posted - 26 Feb 2010 : 8:53:38 PM
Oooh Nissibay, wonder if it was the same lady???? |
| debs |
Posted - 26 Feb 2010 : 8:51:12 PM
Shah and Bernie, I so wish both of you could have known my boy who I lost Jan 09.
I had him from 15 months, had no experience with youngsters, he was a dreamboat. Lovely forward going ride, but never jogged, always walked after a gallop, wonderful to handle, was perfect in all traffic until some pig headed skip lorry driver frightened him then would not stop and chased him up the road.Would look at scarey things and maybe snort, but would then go and investigate.
I maybe wrong but I feel that if you have a youngster you can build a bond and trust and therefore things are not such an issue when on board. Before Giz I had ponies on loan, that always had issues, so I thought, go for a baby, best thing I ever did. Obviously a massive part of our success was an outstanding temperament, and a lot of luck, having never had any dealings with youngsters. I knew the moment I set eyes on that boy he was the one, even though he was described as a b*****d by his owner when I asked for him to be trotted in hand.
My little Ali has a very hard act to follow!
Sorry for the ramble |
| T42 |
Posted - 26 Feb 2010 : 8:34:07 PM
Roseanne - couldn't agree more re sensible starting & handling. Let a horse be a horse until it's ready to work. I liken Arabs to collie dogs - they're quick bright & intelligent, but if they don't get enough stimulation they'll find their own amusement & I think that's how they get into bad habits. My last horse came from a big stud, broken at 3, turned away & then started at 4. He was bright & fun but knew when to behave & when to play. People would say "will he be alright with such & such - he's an Arab" & I'd reply "of course, why shouldn't he be?". He led many a silly TB past/through horrifying (to the TB) things. Why did I buy him - because the breeder allowed me to have him on 3 months trial & I didn't have anything to ride at the time. Once here he stole my heart! I went with the intention of buying him if suitable. Never mentioned loan/trial period. The breeder offered once she'd seen me ride (I'm not very good!). I'm not suggesting every seller should do this - I wouldn't, but she saw something I didn't I think.
Bit off topic, but have already posted my views on advertising horses & "timewasters". |
| bernie |
Posted - 26 Feb 2010 : 8:13:02 PM
Roseanne I am looking for mare or gelding, 14.3 or 15 hands (big enough that my not huge other half can sit on occassionally, but small enough that I can see over it, at 5'2). Preferably grey, or chestnut.
Old enough to be sensible, but young enough that we can have many years of riding out together so about 8 to 14. Temperament is everything as he or she must be sweet to handle and interested in people, not spooky or only mildly so, and with a cheerful rather than nevous nature. Must be a safe hack alone or in company and good in traffic, and ideally willing to put up with me continuing to have lessons so tolerant enough to school a fair bit, and maybe jump a bit. Must not be prone to taking off with its rider. Suitable for a reasonably competent novice. To be honest I think I am looking for the same as a lot of people. I did find the perfect horse around Christmas from an ad on here (no pictures at all!) until the owner changed her mind.
I don't mean to hijack the thread, sorry. |
| Zan |
Posted - 26 Feb 2010 : 8:06:27 PM
I like this kind of horse too, but they are not for everyone, and I think the very wound up ones are maybe in the wrong hands. They are so sensitive that they need a sensitive rider, and sometimes they need time and patience. I have had two purebreds---the first, Zanthar, was a perfect gentleman---as near perfect as a riding horse could be. Nothing fazed him and I could go anywhere and do anything on him in complete confidence--BUT, he was still very much an Arab. I used to get comments from "ordinary" horse people about how brave or foolhardy I was e.g. riding him on busy main roads, which totally bemused me, but when I thought about it, he still pranced and spooked a bit, but it was all for a bit of a laugh and he always felt totally safe. What they were seeing was an active, interested horse having fun, and noticing everything around him instead of plodding along, and they misinterpreted it as misbehaving.
My current boy, Zaharoff, is very different. I got him at age 7 when he had done absolutely nothing, and I think his early lack of life experience is to blame. He was,literally, frightened of his own shadow. I thought I was used to spooks, but he can spook at nothing and dramatically!!He has been a bit of a challenge, but there is no way he has put me off Arabs---quite the contrary. A kinder horse than Zaharoff would be impossible to find, and he would never do anything on purpose to hurt me. He is intelligent and very rewarding to own, and tries very hard for me---I just love him to bits.
It's interesting that this thread is running at the same time as the one about buying an Arab for a child. I would have put any child on Zanthar, and I know he would have looked after them. Zaharoff is very good around children, but there are very few adults I would allow to ride him, never mind a child---not for the rider's sake, but for his
Lisa Rachel---your link isn't working for me. It went to a page saying the domain name is registered. I want to see your photos! |
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