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nikki Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 11:06:57 AM
Happy new year to all!


I am getting concerned about our old english arabs, where are they, does no- one care that they seem to be disappearing?

One line in particular, the great mare Nuhra, there are so very few left remaining, that trace to her in the tail female line, with an old english/crabbet pedigree..

So do you have a crabbet/ old english arab, please share them with us, treasure them, i fear there won't be many left at all soon.
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zoerh Posted - 13 Sep 2011 : 06:55:15 AM
Originally posted by Kirstie-22

not actually sure of his percentages but i have an arab, who i have been told has high percentage crabbet. His name is Silvadon (Silvadoris x Kimberley Silver), he was bred by a lady called Marilyn in Selby, UK
if any one can tell me his percentage i would be very grateful.


Kirstie - I believe he is 100% Crabbet - if you look through his pedigree his Dad is also his great grandad through Kim's side :)
Mysticsequin1 Posted - 26 Jan 2011 : 12:01:04 PM
Hi everyone there is a new online magazine for us Crabbet people & others who love Arabians, this mag is published? by Follydown Arabians Australia & is a great read, can be downloaded in PDF form for your archive or printed. The address is www.crabbetarabianworld.com Ann
nerissanic Posted - 17 Jan 2011 : 8:24:53 PM
hello everyone, i'm a newbie and complete slave to my beautiful 10 yr old chestnut arab mare, nerissa, and a stroppy 8 month old miniature shetland filly, also chestnut, named sweet pea but who i should have named little madam! i also look after a 19 yr old welshie - chestnut! - and a 14 yr old - chestnut(!) and white - shetland, both geldings. i lurve chestnuts!!! i will try to get some pics of my lot on here over the next few days but i'm not very good with this computer thing.
i'm wondering if my girl is in the old english category, as when looking through some of your pedigrees on here there are a lot of the same names in nerissas' papers. sorry, i don't know how to post the allbreeds link on here but she is on there, as nerissa, born 2001. she has crabbet heritage papers which certify her as 95.8% crabbet breeding. does this mean anything? she was bred by a mrs dorothy mathias; does anyone on here know this lady or nerissa?
nerissa has had one foal, a colt, with her previous owner but i'm 'only' a happy hacker so am very unlikely to breed from her and i think as i don't have a clue about breeding it's probably best that way! bye for now and i'll try to get some pics on of the gang nic x
Cate Posted - 14 Jan 2011 : 5:27:18 PM
Beautiful horses everyone!
jackiedo Posted - 14 Jan 2011 : 10:51:31 AM
I have Zarello, and her 1/4 russian Son Count Azlan.
I thought that Zarello was quite tightly bred, having so many lines back to CountDorsaz, so I went to a stallion with a similar bloodline on one side and a dash of an outcross. It has not lost any bone and ability, but given me a better length of neck than my mare has.
Mysticsequin1 Posted - 14 Jan 2011 : 10:37:45 AM
We have another mare of some very old Crabbet/Old English bloodlines she is Fenwick Nemesis G M 1990 by Dark Image by Dark Legend (Riffal imp X Niskib by Rakib imp X Nisib by Indian Light imp X Nuralina imp) X Romanda by Spindrift imp X Rouelle by Shafreyn imp X Ruheym by Rakib imp. Her dam is Nijinska by Moon Kabala ( Silver Moonlight imp X Kassa by Kataf imp X Nasirieh imp by Skowronek)X Nephrite by Silver Spot ( Riffal imp X Royal Radiance imp by Royal Diamond X Silver Gilt) X Nickle by Silver Moonlight Imp X Nisib.
Both Dark Image & Nijinska were I believe in their 20's when Nem was concieved. I don't have a photo of her on this computer they are on my desktop but I do have photos of her son & Daughter so am putting them up. She is a Kehileh Ajuz of Dajania tail female is Dajania DB 96.8328% Crabbet Oh & by the way Hafida is not in foal she is just a very fat baggage.


Amira 'al Shahwa BM 1996 she is 91.54445% Crabbet by Aloha Santana by Talquah Ralik ( Royal Domino iiu X Quickstep by Phaeton(Sala imp X Sir Aatika by Sirdar by Shahzada imp)X Qasim by Nekhl X Fayroufa by Ibn Fayrial ( Fayrial imp x Matoufa by Indian Light imp) His dam Rosana by Desert Pride (Count Manilla imp X Zadita by Zadaran(Prince Nejd by Shahzada imp X Nejdmieh imp)X Shanira by Iran (Yourouk iiu by Irex X Mameluke) X Shani by Bahri (Rakib imp X Barada ll) X Shaniya by Prince Nejd X Rualla. He was a beautiful grey boy 86.2561% Crabbet.
Shamadan is a G Gelding also by Aloha Santana.
Enjoy Ann
SKTao Posted - 14 Jan 2011 : 09:49:20 AM
Hi,
I have Celtic Warrior who is by 100% Crabbet Stallion Halal (Hanif x Sherilla) and out of a polish x Crabbet Mare 'Skye Orchid'.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/celtic+warrior6





Mysticsequin1 Posted - 14 Jan 2011 : 09:12:37 AM
Hi Toothless what a lovely old boy any idea where he is now, drool drool, what a loss if he doesn't get some purebred foals. Ann
Cate Posted - 13 Jan 2011 : 11:31:23 AM
Originally posted by Mysticsequin1

Hi Cate I have a 26 yr Gr mare Sitah by Walad (Count Manilla imp X Qishta by Abiram imp X Bashqua by Crystal Fire imp) X Salerie by Salero (Samiri by Stephan imp X Letaz by Baz by Rakib imp x Leto by Sala imp)X Ma Cherie imp by Meaghil Giovanni X Silvagail by Silvadoris X Abigail by Halma X Rexbeya, tail female is Mahawiliyah DB.Sitah is about93.8% Crabbet 41 lines to Skowronek.
I have her Chestnut daughter Hafida 'al Salerie by Arabian Park Fireband by Banderol (Sindh imp X Balsora by Riffal imp) X Fire Trix by Crystal Fire imp X Trix Silver by Royal Domino IIU).Hafida is about 95+% Crabbet with 52 lines to Skowronek.
I also have Sitah's son Al Nazir Gr St by Aloha Santana by Talquah Talik (Royal Domino IIU X Quickstep by Phaeton by Sala imp X Qasim by Nekhl) X Rosana by Desert Pride (Count Manilla IMP)X Shanira by Iran (Yourouk IIU by Irex) X Shani by Bahri (Rakib imp).
As you can see these have some very old English/Crabbet bloodlines. Ann


Hi Ann, Lovely old bloodlines and can't beleive the amount of crosses to Skowronek! Wow! Fab photos also of your horses..

Your mare looks so like one I have here for a friend who has been made redundant. Just waiting for her to be put on the AL Wanted for a loan home. She is Gitano Maraquita (El Zingaro (Blue Rainbow x Simona) x Charmane (Ringing Sovereign (Silver Sword) x Ringing Derida) So anyone interested please pm me. She has produced 3 foals but none to Crabbet stallions. Cate
TOOTHLESS Posted - 13 Jan 2011 : 05:04:08 AM
These picts of an Australian Arabian stallion of approx 98% crabbet breeding. The first pict was taken by me using an old mobile telephone in very bright sunlight.
Seeing this horse sent tingles up my spine. To cut a long story short, this horse impressed me so much I Imported a mare Rusleema 73% crabbet from Gadebrook stud in the UK especially for him.
Maybe someone in Australia could approach his owner with a view to purchasing him ( after a fertility test).He's not for sale as far as I know. As things are now his lines will die with him, as he has NO purebred progeny, although his owner has many purebred mares.
This horse has true arabian type, and his name is Fawley Silver Salute for those who are interested in pedigrees.

oddellie Posted - 12 Jan 2011 : 10:11:59 PM
hi i have a 25 year old mare redhouse delijah,african kismet who is also 25 a 2 and half colt by african kismet/prince santros and a part bred his sire is genral silver
georgiauk Posted - 12 Jan 2011 : 5:43:54 PM
She reminds me of Jane Kadri's Tamira 8) Is she in foal or just a good doer, lovely either way 8)
Tzarina Posted - 12 Jan 2011 : 4:29:43 PM
Lovely thread, really enjoying it.

Mysticsequin, your horse's markings remind me of the Kubinec son Picasso Kossack but with less white on the belly
Arabian Girl Posted - 12 Jan 2011 : 12:05:53 PM
,,,,,,,these wonderfull bloodlines ,,is putting a massive smile on my face..love this post
Mysticsequin1 Posted - 12 Jan 2011 : 11:18:26 AM
HI this is Hafida 'al Salerie, taken about a week ago in the paddock

The grey horse trotting up is Shamadan Gr G by Aloha Santana X Fenwick Nemesis.

This is Haima Ch M by Ballev Kharafa (Arabian Park Fireband By Banderol X Fire Trix by Crystal Fire imp)X Campbelltown Queen by Leszek by Al Karim Sirhalima imp US) her dam Kaiwanna Park Kismut by Walad x Mawarra Topaz by Mutlak imp (Indian Magic X Mifaria) X Kismet by Nekhl X Kerima.
For those who love a bit of wild white,Sitah, Al Nazir & Hafida all have it, Haima has hers from Ballev Khurafa. Ann
Libby Frost Posted - 11 Jan 2011 : 12:10:32 PM
Originally posted by Mysticsequin1

Hi Cate I have a 26 yr Gr mare Sitah by Walad (Count Manilla imp X Qishta by Abiram imp X Bashqua by Crystal Fire imp) X Salerie by Salero (Samiri by Stephan imp X Letaz by Baz by Rakib imp x Leto by Sala imp)X Ma Cherie imp by Meaghil Giovanni X Silvagail by Silvadoris X Abigail by Halma X Rexbeya, tail female is Mahawiliyah DB.Sitah is about93.8% Crabbet 41 lines to Skowronek.
I have her Chestnut daughter Hafida 'al Salerie by Arabian Park Fireband by Banderol (Sindh imp X Balsora by Riffal imp) X Fire Trix by Crystal Fire imp X Trix Silver by Royal Domino IIU).Hafida is about 95+% Crabbet with 52 lines to Skowronek.
I also have Sitah's son Al Nazir Gr St by Aloha Santana by Talquah Talik (Royal Domino IIU X Quickstep by Phaeton by Sala imp X Qasim by Nekhl) X Rosana by Desert Pride (Count Manilla IMP)X Shanira by Iran (Yourouk IIU by Irex) X Shani by Bahri (Rakib imp).
As you can see these have some very old English/Crabbet bloodlines. Ann
lovely bloodlines. seeing Trix silver reminds me of a family we had once who were bred back to Ralvon Pilgrim , my darling old boy was by Sa'an who went back Ralvon Pilgrim/ / Rikham / Trix silver
Mysticsequin1 Posted - 11 Jan 2011 : 10:57:26 AM
Hi Cate I have a 26 yr Gr mare Sitah by Walad (Count Manilla imp X Qishta by Abiram imp X Bashqua by Crystal Fire imp) X Salerie by Salero (Samiri by Stephan imp X Letaz by Baz by Rakib imp x Leto by Sala imp)X Ma Cherie imp by Meaghil Giovanni X Silvagail by Silvadoris X Abigail by Halma X Rexbeya, tail female is Mahawiliyah DB.Sitah is about93.8% Crabbet 41 lines to Skowronek.
I have her Chestnut daughter Hafida 'al Salerie by Arabian Park Fireband by Banderol (Sindh imp X Balsora by Riffal imp) X Fire Trix by Crystal Fire imp X Trix Silver by Royal Domino IIU).Hafida is about 95+% Crabbet with 52 lines to Skowronek.
I also have Sitah's son Al Nazir Gr St by Aloha Santana by Talquah Talik (Royal Domino IIU X Quickstep by Phaeton by Sala imp X Qasim by Nekhl) X Rosana by Desert Pride (Count Manilla IMP)X Shanira by Iran (Yourouk IIU by Irex) X Shani by Bahri (Rakib imp).
As you can see these have some very old English/Crabbet bloodlines. Ann
kathleen Posted - 04 Jul 2010 : 6:06:51 PM
Hi Viola yes you are right both my Nuhra related mares have the same line it this is my old mare Alliya pedigree

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/alliya
viola Posted - 04 Jul 2010 : 4:51:34 PM
ohh this is exciting! i bought a mare last year from england and i am pretty certain that she traces to nuhra in her tail female line( is this right sorry i am new to this stuff!)though i am not sure.she is on allbreeds as ayla27 can anyone help me please??? i can post a photo if anyone is interested cheers seri
Roseanne Posted - 04 Jul 2010 : 2:00:29 PM
Hi Natalie,

Welcome to Arabian Lines! Hope you enjoy many happy hours on here.

Your pba sounds super - very versatile I should think! We'll all enjoy seeing your photos.
Zena Posted - 04 Jul 2010 : 1:53:59 PM
Hi everyone , i would just like to say that i own a pba by st narreth king dancer who is crabbet. Zena is the most loving,sensible,talented horse ive had the pleasure of owning .And i am fully converted to arabs now no other horse compares . i shall try and get some pics of her up on my profile once ive figured out how to work things as ive just registered today x
alistair leslie Posted - 02 Feb 2010 : 08:40:15 AM

It is amazing how nearly 100 yrs later the horses look similar .
Charisma could be Rose of Sharon.I like Princess Nazarene too so typey and like a lot of Mrs Hedleys' stock fine featured.
leighann Posted - 01 Feb 2010 : 9:29:08 PM
Gosh i too missed this post some how!!

Lovely to see such wonderful horses and bloodlines - Makes me want to breed Charisima even more now

We have Charisima (Aboud x Silver Yasmin)



Princess Nazerine (Zibak x Faraletta) approx 96%

jackiedo Posted - 01 Feb 2010 : 9:04:08 PM
I have Zarello, and her Son by Cas Ravel, Count Azlan.
I believe that Zarello is 100% Old English.
guisburn Posted - 30 Jan 2010 : 10:11:58 PM
Fantastic - spread the word and lets get this show off the road, if we get enough entries to split the class that would really show we have some mileage here!
Melanie


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