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geegee Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 11:15:48 AM
Has anybody had any positive experiences of using Reiki for pain related issues?

Would be very interested to hear as have a friend with a horse that is at the Royal Veterinary College for bone scans and the prognosis isn't looking good

Many thanks,
Lisa
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Pasha Posted - 19 Jun 2009 : 09:56:39 AM
That sounds like a plan Lisa - let him just be a horse whilst she's out of action - Dr Green is a miracle worker and she could find he comes back better than ever. If not, and the same problems persist, I think it would be worth getting a Physio out x
geegee Posted - 19 Jun 2009 : 09:47:37 AM
Hi Sarah,

Thanks for that info. It does sound rather similar, although I am only going on what my friend is telling me. I live about 2hrs away now....

I was on the same yard years ago and I basically started her horse for her. I remember saying to her, back then, that there was something not quite right with his back end. He wasn't using it properly and she did get the vet out who confirmed that he had probably had an injury around that area and this is his way of going now, to compensate.
Since then he has been in work regularly for 5 years and there have been no issues. He has been schooled, hacked and jumped.

He has always been a bit full of himself, quite cheeky and dominant, but always safe for his rider. My friend says that he is a very willing ride, and will try his best.

She has mentioned over the last couple of months that she doesn't think that he "feels" right and he has bucked on occasion. Not like him at all. He has started bucking more and more, and like you, she doesn't feel that this is through excitement. She had her saddle checked - all ok. Teeth checked and ok.
It then got to the stage where she could only get her foot in the stirrup and he would spin and buck.
Then he started kicking out when she was picking his back feet up. (although, I have to say he has always been a bit funny with his back legs)
Hence the vet visit and him saying that he was definately showing signs of lameness....and then the referral etc etc.

Adding to her problems is the fact that she is due to go in hospital for an operation and will be out of action for 8-12 weeks. I have suggested that she rest her horse for that period of time and pick it all up again when she recovers. If the vets say that he isn't in pain then he can have a bit of a holiday himself and she can see what he is like when she recovers.....

I will show her all the replies and hopefully, when the vet comes back to her, she can make a decision on the next course of action.

Thanks all!
Lisa



Pasha Posted - 19 Jun 2009 : 09:25:56 AM
Lisa, I would strongly recommend your friend gets her horse assessed by a Chartered Veterinary Physio - when I first got Shesk he would buck and fling himself about, apparently in pain whenever I rode in the school and asked him to work! He was fine out on a hack and would merrily trot and canter in a seemingly relaxed and good outline.

It's hard to explain but I could tell they weren't excited bucks, he didn't really want to go forward and would even do it on the lunge, so I thought it must be pain rather than being frightened or excited (he did this with others as well as being on his own).

When the Physio came she found he was blocked though his front end - basically had overdeveloped muscles on the underside of his neck and on the top (crest area) and very stiff though C4.... this in turn meant he couldn't work 'through' and wasn't using his bum - his glutes were locked up and his hamstrings were overdeveloped.

he wasn't in pain as such, he just physically couldn't work how I was asking him to and I think he got frustrated by this which lead to the bucking etc

I must add also, that there is nothing physically wrong with Shesk or the work he has done in the past - this is just his preferred way of going (maybe the Arab preferred way of going - quite high head carriage and a bit bum high)... but as I want to focus on dressage and love love love working in the school, I wanted to see if I could change this.

4 physio sessions later and he is a different horse - works happily alone or with company in the school and it's been 2 weeks since his last buck (not counting the huge broncing session we had last night following 3 days of box rest after a bit of a sore foot!). He actually strides into the school as if he can't wait to get in there and show off his fancy moves, bless him!

It's worth a try - you can also claim Vet Physio from your insurance, although as i've only needed 4 sessions (worked out to £225 I didn't think it was worth it

Sarah x
Pauline Posted - 19 Jun 2009 : 08:49:55 AM
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Pauline
Emma B Posted - 19 Jun 2009 : 08:48:44 AM
Hi I do healing which is similar to Reiki and live in Essex if I can be of any help please pm me. Emma
geegee Posted - 19 Jun 2009 : 08:43:08 AM
Pauline,
No, she hasn't because they didn't know what they were dealing with, hence the referral and the scans....She is in Essex (about 20mins from the Dartford Tunnel)
Pauline Posted - 19 Jun 2009 : 08:29:14 AM
Lisa

I presume your friend has been down all the lines of physiotherapy and chiropractor.

Where is your friend based.


Pauline
geegee Posted - 19 Jun 2009 : 08:21:21 AM
Hi all,

The bone scans were for the croup area, mainly the sacroiliac joint. The vet had referred my friend to the RVC as he had already nerve blocked and took xrays from the stifle down and the lameness was diagnosed as higher up.

The RVC contacted my friend to say that her horse was asymmetrical in that area and that the scan had shown changes in that area.

The confusing part is that the next day they were going to perform some calculations ? and get back to her. They didn't call back and when she chased them yesterday the vet said that they couldn't find anything wrong with him!! They said that they had tacked him up and ridden him and he wasn't lame. My friend asked what the conversation was all about, the previous day and he avoided the answer......unfortunately she is not very good at being pushy and allowed them to get away with it.

SO after being told that there is now nothing wrong with him and to bring him home and work him, if he shows symptoms of pain again i.e the bucking then they suggested putting him on bute and working him through it!!

My friend is absolutely dumbfounded by it all. She spoke to her own vet who was as shocked by it all, couldn't understand why they couldn't see the lameness and is going to be speaking to the RVC to find out what is going on....

I feel so sorry for my friend as she is adamant that her horse is in pain, says that he is not behaving as he normally would and now she feels like she has wasted all her insurance money on something that she will now be excluded for, without even getting a result.

I'm hoping that her vet will get some sense out of the RVC....

BeckyBoodle Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 9:10:08 PM
Can't speak for Reiki but I do shiatsu massage and it is a powerful stress reliever which can knock on and help release endorphins etc and reduce pain. Again, it is a matter of finding a practitioner that suits you and your horse.

B
Judith S Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 4:08:21 PM
Yes - have used it with my horses - very successful - relaxes them.
Pauline Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 3:07:20 PM
I have treated a lot of horses with arthritis and found it very good.

It helps the horse to relax nice.

What are the bone scan for.

Pauline
suyents Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 1:28:18 PM
Hi Lisa, what are the scans for??
Reiki is as good as the practitioner.....
love to Minuette.
xx


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