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| Mrs Vlacq |
Posted - 19 Feb 2011 : 1:47:00 PM
Just out of interest, how much does everyone think is reasonable for entry fees at an affilliated level? Competing is not cheap, we all know that but if you wanted to dip your tow into a new realm this season it would be nice to know roughly what each discipline costs
showing
endurance
showjumping
eventing
dressage
etc.... |
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| Esther |
Posted - 20 Feb 2011 : 08:37:56 AM
Although EGB do do an associate membership scheme for those who don't want to ride mega miles. No joining fee, £19 for a single membership, £23 for a family membership, and you can then ride at any local group non-vetted training, social or pleasure ride at the equivalent of member's rates. Three or four rides and it will have paid for itself. Plus you get the local group newsletter, the national newsletter, and the national omnibus. Bargainous 
I like SERC - I've really enjoyed the Scottish rides I've done, and I actually prefer their rules. But that said, there's not a lot of difference in the prices and I don't think EGB represents bad value for money for what you get: several hours on your horse over a carefully researched safe but challenging route, fairly intensive veterinary and farrier support, and a sense of achievement I haven't personally had from any other horse sport. These rides ain't cheap to put on, and a lot of the time we're lucky to cover costs.
I think the key to keeping people entering is to keep things local. I know in our local group we're trying to put on more little local rides this year so that people don't have to travel so far to get to us. |
| Mrs Vlacq |
Posted - 19 Feb 2011 : 10:38:51 PM
not cheap then.....
Have WPCS show fees crept up that much too? Blimey.... |
| Callisto |
Posted - 19 Feb 2011 : 8:16:04 PM
That is a significant point rifruffian, but it doesn't really benefit me because all our horses are comprehensively insured. I have not got a downer on EGB - I am very happy to compete with the South East Group, they're a lovely friendly bunch. But the original question was about the costs of dipping your toe into a new sport, and it is significantly cheaper to do that in Scotland with SERC than it is with EGB, particularly if you want to take your family, and it is one of the few sports that parents and children can enjoy on an equal footing - we've been at a ride with 3 generations of my family  |
| rifruffian |
Posted - 19 Feb 2011 : 8:05:10 PM
Callisto you write a useful summary of endurance costs but a significant point of detail is that the english endurance subscription includes a useful all purpose year-round third party liability insurance for the horse.....but the scottish endurance subscription does not include that. |
| rifruffian |
Posted - 19 Feb 2011 : 8:04:05 PM
Callisto you write a useful summary of endurance costs but a significant point of detail is that the english endurance subscription includes a useful all purpose year-round third party liability insurance for the horse.....but the scottish endurance subscription does not include that. |
| pintoarabian |
Posted - 19 Feb 2011 : 7:45:38 PM
Rachelle and Linda have excelled themselves by providing a full breakdown of costs for BE and Endurance. BS is quite complicated so here's the link to their Membership page. Click on 'New Member Discounts' on the menu on the Home Page for some deals.
http://www.britishshowjumping.co.uk/membership/Fees-2011
Basically, the horse has to be registered (Grade C to begin with unless already won £999 or more). The rider has to be registered. The owner, if different from the rider, has to be registered. If the rider is under 18, the parent has to be a member. So, in our case, Leanne is our rider and she's just turned 17. I, as owner, have had to pay registration fee and her dad has had to do the same. It soon mounts up. Horse passport ID page has to be overstamped by a vet and vaccinations have to be up-to-date. It's a whole new ball game with stallions as they have to be graded with a recognised society and pass a BSJA jumping assessment to gain their bridle discs and tail ribbons which have to be worn or everyone melts down. Once you get past all that, everything is fairly straightforward. Most shows take entries on the day at same cost so that avoids losing pre-paid entry fees if anything happens and you can't go. The Rule Book is rather weighty and a guaranteed cure for insomniacs.
Oh, and the fees are annual! |
| Callisto |
Posted - 19 Feb 2011 : 6:58:52 PM
Further to my previous post (and given Templars' thorough breakdown )
Membership and Registration:
Endurance GB
Full Riding Membership £48, Joining Fee £20.00 (if your membership lapses you have to pay this again)
Teenager £33, no joining Fee
Horse Registration (annual) £12, Logbook (one off purchase per horse) £15.00
For a family membership (1 adult + 2 Children living at same address) you get a 10% discount.
SERC - Annual Membership costs
Riding Adult £30 no joining fee,
Riding Junior £20
Family Membership (2 adults + 2 children at same address) £50
Competitive rider registration £10, one per membership
No horse registrations fee
Horse Logbook (identical to EGB) £10
So much cheaper in Scotland, particularly if you have a whole family riding.
You do have to wear a hat of acceptable specification, and be able to prove that your horse's vaccinations are up to date (and not allowed to lapse even by a day or you have to start from scratch again.)
You do not need specialist clothing or tack, but you and your horse must be comfortable, and your tack must be in good condition and safe. Obviously as you get more into the sport then waterproof bridlework, and endurance specific saddles become more attractive. A waterproof mapcase is pretty essential. We also wear a bum bag containing vet wrap, multitool, whistle, dextrose tablets, some money, survival blanket and a sling, just in case.
Should you really get bitten by the endurance bug then you will use more diesel going further afield for rides, you'll acquire stethoscopes, heartrate monitors, riding tights, lightweight ventilated headwear...
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| moatside |
Posted - 19 Feb 2011 : 5:56:42 PM
WPCS between £8 & £15 per class depending on where it is |
| phoenixbruka |
Posted - 19 Feb 2011 : 4:45:41 PM
I think £10-£15 MAX for showing and dressage classes TBH the prize money is always poor or non existent and any more and people will think twice about entering.
I dont think its getting any better economically out there and an awful lot of people will be choosing their shows/classes very carefully again this year [ox 
susie |
| templars |
Posted - 19 Feb 2011 : 4:39:07 PM
Eventing:
Registrations
Horse annual registration: high achieving horses £175 first time registration, £160 renewal
lower achieving horses £100 first time registration, £90 renewal
Rider annual registration: £140 first time registration, £120 renewal
Entry fees
Each entry depends on the level of competition:
BE90 (formerly Intro) £63 per horse per class plus between £10-£15 start fee
Novice £76 per horse per class plus between £10-£15 start fee
So for us to run our competition team this year, registration fees have been £700 plus we budget £200 entry fees (2 horses) each week plus diesel. We don't usually stay away from home but if we do, we have to pay between £25-£40 per stable. Diesel is usually about £100 a trip.
Horse equipment:
For each horse:
- a minimum of 2 saddles (one dressage and one for showjumping and/or cross country)
- between 1 and 3 bridles each (one for each phase unless, like the pure breds one bridle does all). There are set rules for tack that is permitted for each phase - you cannot use martingales for dressage and some bits are not allowed. Bitless bridles are not allowed cross country.
- a set of show jumping boots each
- a set of cross country boots each
- minimum of 2 white saddle cloths per event
- full set of studs per horse per season
- spare stirrups, stirrup leathers and girth
- flu and tets up to date (preferably on 6 monthly cycle) Mandatory - you will not be allowed to compete if you do not have a passport showing the horse's name and if jabs are not up to date
General maintenance and upkeep should be similar to keeping any horse fit.
Rider equipment:
- dressage and show jumping jacket (abut £100 for one that fits and is comfy)
- 2 types of hat, one for dressage/show jumping £150 and a cross country hat £250 (must meet specified requirements and tagged by BE to prove adequate). Mandatory - you will not be allowed to compete without the right hat cross country. If your hat hasn't been inspected and tagged, you wil not be allowed to compete
- body protector (to meet specified requirements and need to be inspected)£200 (not an air jacket - if this is worn you still need a body protector, if you chose an air jacket add another £300-ish) Mandatory - you will not be ale to compete if you do not have a body protector that meets the required standard
- minimum of 1 number bib (better to have one per horse so it's quicker to change) £10 each Mandatory, you cannot compete without a number bib
- cross country colours, minimum of 2 sets in case they get wet £150 per set
- minimum of 2 pairs of jods (in case of falls, or competing in the pouring rain)
- medical armband £10 Mandatory, you cannot compete without a medical arm band
It's not cheap.
You can start with a lot less, you could buy a day ticket (£16 for horse and £16 for rider). This is good if you want to get going but you will be at risk of being ballotted out if there are more entries than places and you are restricted to competing up to 4 times in a season.
You could start with your usual tack if you want to have a go but it's important to remember that some items are mandatory:
- tagged hats (dressage, show jumping and cross country)
- body protector
- number bib
- medical armband
- flu and tet up to date and passport updated
Remember that if you do start with your usual tack that you use for hacking out, your horse may come back with some bumps and bruises, so even if you don't get yourself the full range of gear in terms of cross country colours, it's best to invest in a good pair of cross country boots to protect the horse's legs (we use Trizone). Take a medical kit with you as well that includes a soothing salve - some boots can rub when the horse has come through water and sand, and steeplechase fences can scratch the tummy area.
The key thing to remember if you want to have a go, is that you can do it without spending a fortune but this is a dangerous and potentially life threatening sport for both rider and horse and safety equipment and proper tack are vital to having a safe outing.
It's like any sport, you can start without having to break the bank, but if you take it seriously and want to compete regularly, it can get very expensive.
Edited to add - Forgot to say - we don't get prize money. A saddlecoth or a headcollar if we're really lucky :) |
| pintoarabian |
Posted - 19 Feb 2011 : 3:24:38 PM
British Showjumping entries range from £10-£20 per class. Classes have prize money so there is a chance of regaining some, or all, of your entry. It is quite pricey to get horses registered with BS but you don't have to. Most shows have a 'Ticket to Ride' scheme where a limited number of free tickets are available to non members. It's great if you just want to test the water before you take the plunge. However, you don't get the prize money or qualify for later stages of qualifiers if you do well. We've taken the plunge and are doing pretty well. Unlike showing, it's year round so keeps the interest levels high. |
| Callisto |
Posted - 19 Feb 2011 : 2:20:29 PM
For Endurance, At the Primrose Ride run by EGB South East Group a 25km (15 mile) Non-competitive ride is £15 for members/£23 for non-members (includes day membership), The 33km CTR and the 40km Novice CTR are £28 for members, £36 for non-members (includes day membership).
For SERC rides a Pleasure Ride (NCR) is £10.00 for members, £20.00 for Temp day members, 30km is £17 for members, £25.50 for non-members, 40 km is £20 for members, £30 for non-members, 50km is £22 for members, £33 for non members
I know this because I am a long term member of the Grampian branch of SERC but I currently compete in South East England. The sport is definitely cheaper in Scotland. |
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