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| bigmac |
Posted - 05 May 2010 : 2:27:14 PM
Can anybody tell me how i can find out if my mare has any offspring out there?? |
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| bigmac |
Posted - 15 Aug 2010 : 09:01:35 AM
Hi, thanks for that, no i don't have a french passport for her, she was bought over here in 93 by sarah kellaway (appologies if spelt incorrectly) i believe, she went to wales where she took part in a couple of rides but was then taken back to newmarket to sarah as needed to rest (wasn't totally sound) but have no idea what happened to her after that and would love to fill in the big gap. She's very nappy and won't ride out alone, she's fine with somebody on foot or bike though, she can't ride out in company as seems to totally lose the plot so would love to find some history which might help to understand her a bit!! |
| Natalie M |
Posted - 11 Aug 2010 : 10:39:02 PM
Your mare was born in France. Do you have a French passport for her?
Here is info from French database and it looks as tho she came to UK in 1993/ BTW Zulus was animportant sire in Poland and then France.
ZELIA DE CESAR
Arabe, Femelle, Gris rouanne, né(e) en 1989
Pouliniere a la reproduction en France depuis 1994 jusqu'en 1999
Père : ZULUS (PL) Arabe
Mère : MALTA Arabe
Père de mère : DAHMAN (NL) Arabe
Stud-book de naissance : STUD BOOK FRANCAIS DU CHEVAL ARABE
Stud-book de reproduction : STUD BOOK FRANCAIS DU CHEVAL ARABE
Né(e) le : 25/02/1989
Muni d'un transpondeur électronique : NON
Cet équidé est génotypé ADN : NON
Origines vérifiées par contrôle de filiation : OUI
Document d'accompagnement validé le : 27/04/1993
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| zapphire1 |
Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 7:42:32 PM
sorry for the delay yes mares do have them ,i have two mares one in 1977
who kept having them ,she was back then treated by a vet who advise was to cut her water down as she was drinking large amounts to help make her milk this mare was never serv nor was there any chance (no stallions or colts about onlivery yard)when she got over her first the follow breeding season she had anthor one vet said do the same as last year but also get her into hard work to keep her mind active and not dreaming of babies!! the hard working work for a short while the vet said she could get undder cancer lumps if she kept on doing this which she did so i was advice back then to put her in foal, which i did, she never had this problem again and i had a beautiful horse from her that replaced her in her old age (she had her foal at 10yrs)
ive got her grand daughter who has now started famtoms last year aged 17 yrs, now 18yrs and again she thinks shes infoal, problem is she will not allow a stallion to mate her we have tryed everything in the past but seeing mares with foals and having stallions in her sight she has taken up her grand dams past on,shes to old to have op she nearly 19yrs TB so we just hope age beats all else!!
so i think if i was you i`d get a new vet as glos vet hostpial can remove the overiers of such mares for about £250for the op
as most vets say people rush out and geld a colt,but no thinking goes into a non breeding mare,and they wonder why they have behavior problems,
ie if you never plan to breed form your mare or she is of low qualitiy she too should be (gelded soto speak) this is not only for good health and mind but helps to with the amount of foals born every year
and if more MARE owners done this with there be less horses advertie
i know of lots of vets who would perfer mare owners to get there mares op the same as colt owners do,and it cost about the same mares dont have any scars from op and the op is down standing up MAREs are not knockout for it so quite safe
to be blunt does your vet know that stallions like to do lots of ****ing iswell?
anyway tell him/her to put( my mare is having false pregnancies )into a search engine he be able to read a see 100`s of problem mares (please note proper wording is false not fantom )within horses |
| gem@oakmeister |
Posted - 07 Jun 2010 : 1:41:17 PM
sorry to side track from your mare, but a comment about phantom pregnancies caught my attention. we have a mare bought in foal.she had ran with stallion all last summer but not been scanned at all so it was just assumed she was in foal. the due date calculated on a witnessed covering came and went as did the next date if she'd been covered the following season. she looks in foal and is bagging up but not loads. a passing comment about phantom pregnancy while vet was looking at another mare prompted him to laugh and say lucky for you horses don't have them, dogs and women but not mares. was he wrong. zapphire seems to have experience of them. tend to take vets words as accurate, maybe shouldn't. and we are still waiting for a foal. |
| bigmac |
Posted - 12 May 2010 : 7:04:14 PM
Thankyou for the advise, had she of been i would of been most grateful for having it pointed out, luckily she's just a little on the heavy side  She was bought privately so i have no reason to doubt the previous owner!! Hopefully with the better weather on the way she'll be getting a bit of exercise so should shed a few more pounds. What would you suggest as her ideal weight, she's about 14.3hh ?? |
| BabsR |
Posted - 12 May 2010 : 6:47:55 PM
Really pleased about that bigmac.....but felt the need to advise the possibility she may be pregnant, particularly as you had reduced her feed.
It is known that some breeders cover an old mare, then later in the year, decide they no longer want the mare and sell her on without advising the buyer of a possible pregnancy.
Have had folk in the locality ride their mare to us and ask may their mare whom they have owned for a few months, be pregnant? One was a TB mare, who had been ridden hard by her owners as they were worried about her weight. They were very shocked when I told them YES she was and likely to foal very soon!! She had the start of a bag forming. Two weeks later, she foaled a colt, luckily, none the worse for the mare having been hard ridden throughout her pregnancy 
Some Dealers also turn mares out in field, where a colt also grazes
as they don't care if the mare gets pregnant
Babs
www.SunrayAngloArabianStud.co.uk |
| Callisto |
Posted - 12 May 2010 : 3:33:37 PM
Well that's a relief for you
Although at my old yard, the owners of a rather plump coloured cob had a huge surprise one morning in the form of a foal - the result of a visit from a colt from the welsh pony stud over the road. He was very aptly named Hedgehopper, could jump a five bar gate from a standstill, and ended up (after gelding) having to be kept in a deer park to keep him in....No one had a clue that this had happened (her owners were rather inexperienced, so unlikely to recognise any signs) until the foal arrived |
| bigmac |
Posted - 12 May 2010 : 1:55:16 PM
Definately NOT in foal, spoken to the previous owner who has confirmed there is 100% no chance that she is currently in foal. |
| zapphire1 |
Posted - 09 May 2010 : 4:00:51 PM
first of all mares with milk glands large teats does not mean she is in foal ive got a mare who has never bred (as iam her breeder)and she has big teats looking at them you would think she has at least 3 foals you can even milk her,its what we all fantom pregnancy mares going through this will not have a season as they believe there are infoal large teast milk fat bellies no seasons some mares do this every year until you put them into foal some do it for a few months then start all over againand so on,to stop this you have to keep the mare in constant work to keep her mind of having babies or put her infoal or have her ovaries removed as mares who keep having fantoms can lead to enlarged ovaries which is painful (mare bucks has cold back etc) sorry about spelling |
| Callisto |
Posted - 09 May 2010 : 1:54:22 PM
Might be worth getting the vet to check her out - at least you'd know either way....it's sounding increasingly possible that you might have a 2 for the price of one there.... |
| bigmac |
Posted - 09 May 2010 : 1:04:49 PM
gosh, you've got me worried now, maybe i'll have to try contacting the previous owner i know she lived out with a young coloured gelding but they did speak about "when he was gelded" so i don't know how long he'd been gelded!! |
| Pashon2001 |
Posted - 09 May 2010 : 12:07:27 PM
I found her on datasource, no progeny listed too. She's probably had unregistered foals or registered to a different society. |
| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 09 May 2010 : 09:34:43 AM
looking at her she looks like she could be in foal, she has the milk glands in front of the teats!, also she looks to have had foals before that belly looks to have held foals in the past as babs said keep an eye out  |
| BabsR |
Posted - 08 May 2010 : 10:42:25 PM
Just keep an eye on her. Usually when one mare comes into season, other field mares also do, especially as you say, you havn`t noticed her in season since you had her.
Babs
www.SunrayAngloArabianStud.co.uk
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| bigmac |
Posted - 08 May 2010 : 9:21:54 PM
hmmmmm now it hadn't even occured to me but no i haven't noticed her in season, Laguna has been very much in season and stealing the limelight so i hadn't really given it much thought but she hasn't shown any obvious signs of being in season, she has just turned 21!! |
| BabsR |
Posted - 08 May 2010 : 9:14:04 PM
Hmmmmm....two more questions...have you seen her in season since you had her?? and how old is she??
Babs
www.SunrayAngloArabianStud.co.uk |
| bigmac |
Posted - 08 May 2010 : 11:19:45 AM
She did seem to be growing quite a belly but was on rich haylage at the time so put it down to a bit of a podgy hay belly, she then went on to hay and monitered a bit more how much she was having and i think the belly has since gone a bit, will attach a couple of pics the first 2 are from a few weeks back when i thought she was looking rather fat and then 2 from more recent and i think the belly has gone??
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| BabsR |
Posted - 08 May 2010 : 09:51:32 AM
Well...just seeing a small portion of her....her belly looks a little low???
Babs
www.SunrayAngloArabianStud.co.uk |
| bigmac |
Posted - 08 May 2010 : 09:03:34 AM
Yes that is correct spelling of her name, so presumably she has no registered purebred offspring then? |
| tamila |
Posted - 08 May 2010 : 08:27:33 AM
Obviously she is on allbreeds but I cannot find her on Datasource. Is this correct spelling of her name as that is where you would find any purebred offspring?
Have found her through her father on Datasource. She was registered in France and there is no record of any offspring. |
| Callisto |
Posted - 08 May 2010 : 02:26:39 AM
Hi Bigmac, horses only appear on allbreeds when someone (ie the owner) puts them there, it is not obligatory. If she has registered offspring the AHS would presumably be able to help you (?!) |
| bigmac |
Posted - 07 May 2010 : 10:05:44 PM
is there any other way i can find out?? |
| bigmac |
Posted - 07 May 2010 : 10:02:05 PM
why would they not be registered on there though? do they not have to be? |
| Lanabanana |
Posted - 07 May 2010 : 9:55:38 PM
No progeny listed on allbreeds, but it doesn't necessarily mean she hasn't had a foal. |
| bigmac |
Posted - 07 May 2010 : 7:33:51 PM
She shouldn't be, i've had her since the beginnning of november and she's only lived with mares here!! Why do you ask???? does she look pregnant??  |
