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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 24 Jun 2016 :  09:39:14 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Happy Independence Day

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sab2
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Posted - 24 Jun 2016 :  10:48:09 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sab2 to your friends list Send sab2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
not going to be an easy few years ahead but I am happy we voted out

Edited by - sab2 on 24 Jun 2016 10:53:22 AM
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Rui
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Posted - 24 Jun 2016 :  11:14:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit Rui's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Rui to your friends list Send Rui a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Food for thought:

HOW AGES VOTED
(YouGov poll)
18-24: 75% Remain
25-49: 56% Remain
50-64: 44% Remain
65+: 39% Remain



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faymouse
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Jun 2016 :  12:12:22 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add faymouse to your friends list Send faymouse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Goldenmane
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Posted - 24 Jun 2016 :  12:12:31 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Goldenmane to your friends list Send Goldenmane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I try not to be political but..stayed up all night and

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Libby Frost
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Posted - 24 Jun 2016 :  2:00:00 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Libby Frost to your friends list Send Libby Frost a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Awesome result!!

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glo
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England
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Posted - 24 Jun 2016 :  4:05:34 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add glo to your friends list Send glo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Our family was devided! I dident vote, but would have voted leave, only because I believe that as a island we should be more self sufficient.

My son and husband wanted to stay, both think it is a disaster!

Well we have to get on with it now! I am a it disappointed that David Camron is stepping down and I dident see that coming so feel a bit deflated.

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Ari
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Posted - 24 Jun 2016 :  6:33:07 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ari to your friends list Send Ari a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I can understand younger people wanting to stay in EU they have known no different, back in 1975 we joined a Common Market not a Europien State. To me the EU and Euro is unstable anyway so rough times ahead whatever today's result. I am more confident of the future with our elected government in control.
Wasn't surprised Cameron is stepping down, fair play to him we do need a strong committed leader to get us through.
I too really aren't political however this is such a significant event.
Keep calm and carry on
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DianaSC
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Spain
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Posted - 24 Jun 2016 :  10:08:52 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DianaSC to your friends list Send DianaSC a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We live in Spain so we voted by post to remain, if we still lived in the UK then both of us would have voted to leave. So, pleased for the UK and we'll have to see how it will affect us over here in the future.
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 25 Jun 2016 :  1:46:43 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is the first time in my life I have actively campaigned for anything. Couldn't believe it when I got up at 5.15am on Thursday and listened to the news and it appeared Brexit had won. I did the horses and came back in for my breakfast and although all the results weren't in the Remain couldn't win; I had an extra large, black coffee, Champagne didn't appeal at that time of the morning.

In reply to your post Rui, we were a mixes bunch campaigning for Brexit and the leader and organiser of my group was a young man; very dishy, if only I had been 40 years younger!!!!

Watching a debate several days before the referendum where the panel were taking questions from the audience a young lady who was with the " remain" group was asked for her question and why she was going to vote remain. Her reply was that she went to the continent and she thought the roaming on her mobile phone would go up so she was voting to stay. Sometimes I despair; I think there are more important things at stake than paying a few extra £s for you mobile bill while you are on holiday.

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FireLight
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Posted - 25 Jun 2016 :  2:53:56 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add FireLight to your friends list Send FireLight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I voted to leave as I think GB will be better long term. The lady at the top of our lane who is in her 50's voted to remain as 'she wanted to be able to eat strawberries all year round!'

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DianaSC
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Spain
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Posted - 25 Jun 2016 :  3:44:19 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DianaSC to your friends list Send DianaSC a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jean Claude Juncker, the European Commission president has said that Brexit is “not an amicable divorce, it was not exactly a tight love affair anyway”. And he wonders why so many British people are disenchanted with the EU.

What an
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barbara.gregory
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Jun 2016 :  4:57:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I really think that other countries will follow us and hold their own referendum. It just needed us to vote out to lead the way.

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garnet
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Posted - 25 Jun 2016 :  6:44:33 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add garnet to your friends list Send garnet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As Ari says, what the EU has become bears no resemblance to what we signed up for.

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Callisto
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Posted - 26 Jun 2016 :  2:47:51 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well I'm sorry to disagree with the trend of this thread, but I do think it is a disaster, and if it destabilises the EU then it will be even worse for us.

Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
Linda
East Sussex
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Ziadomira
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England
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Posted - 26 Jun 2016 :  3:26:02 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ziadomira to your friends list Send Ziadomira a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well Callisto you are not alone. I am with you, absolute disaster. And to cap it all Farage has now said he lied about figures he gave as reasons to Leave. A local doctor was in tears about the result. And I am in the higher age group
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debs
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Posted - 26 Jun 2016 :  3:31:54 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The racism has escalated massively, it's revolting. Poor little kids being targeted at schools etc. The generalisations are that most racism is from the lower classes is so wrong...a lot of it seems to be but certainly not all. I'm amazed at some of the stuff I've seen on FB today. If these people got their wish the country would fall apart because who else would be doing some of these jobs??? From healthcare to cleaning....


Edited by - debs on 26 Jun 2016 5:14:52 PM
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Pasch
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Posted - 26 Jun 2016 :  3:36:27 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pasch to your friends list Send Pasch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well I hadn't posted before as I didn't want to start arguments but I must also say I find this result sad and worrying.I am not English so only indirectly touched although I am afraid everybody will suffer because of this.Like Ziadomira says,people have believed things that weren't real..
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Pop
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England
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Posted - 27 Jun 2016 :  2:58:03 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pop to your friends list Send Pop a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For me it is a complete and utter disaster. So much so that I can hardly bring myself to speak of it.

The referendum result means my life certainly has a certain uncertainty about it. And I'm certain yours does too. So with my uncertainty and your uncertainty there's certainly a certain degree of uncertainty about, of that we can be quite........................................................... sure

P.S. Vote leave campaigners are complaining bitterly that Vote stay voters are referring to 'Independence day' ... oh well, is there nothing anyone can agree on? ....perhaps not.

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AnnaMaisy25
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England
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Posted - 27 Jun 2016 :  4:08:18 PM  Show Profile  Click to see AnnaMaisy25's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add AnnaMaisy25 to your friends list Send AnnaMaisy25 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am 26 years old, and voted remain.
I was not happy with the results, and just can't see where this will lead.
If things get that bad, I'll consider moving to South Africa.
But that is my opinion, and mine alone.

So sad it's come to this.
And as for the comments being made to foreigners. Absolutely disgraceful
There are examples being circulated on Facebook at the moment, and I've witnessed some horrific language over the weekend whilst in town [huge Polish and Italian population in Bedford] Obviously, this is not the way of the nice people, just the uneducated people who were racist before the votes were cast, and now think it's their god given right to voice their abhorrent views.
It's shocking, and upsetting and people think that's what voting to leave meant. That they could then be so utterly despicably racist.
Perhaps it will all work out.
I dearly hope so. For the sake of Great Britain.


Splash&Freya.
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Ziadomira
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England
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Posted - 27 Jun 2016 :  4:49:38 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ziadomira to your friends list Send Ziadomira a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well there's a Petition to Parliament going on at the moment asking for a second referendum. So far there are 3.5M signatories. What is amusing is that it was set up before the referendum by a person who wanted to leave so that if the result was close he could say it was not legal as it should be 60% of a turnout of 75%. Well as he says the petition was hijacked by the remain camp after the result. He is not happy. Of course Nicola Sturgeon may get her lot to vote against the order on I believe Reg 50 (I may be wrong). If there are more than a certain number of signatories to a petition then it has to be raised n Parliament. It has exceeded that figure!!
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Ari
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Posted - 28 Jun 2016 :  7:47:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ari to your friends list Send Ari a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I admire Nicola Sturgeons passion and tenacity but not her haste in forcing the issue. I totally agree with Scotland's right to a second referendum as some may have voted UK was the promise to stay in EU. However the interests of the people of Soctland will be best served by a referendum after we exit the EU and the trade agreements are in place. Their choice then will be fully informed of their best interest
Democracy isn't ageist we all come to the ballot with our experience and views.
Wake up call for all those elected the peolple vote.

Edited by - Ari on 28 Jun 2016 7:48:29 PM
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arabesque
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Posted - 28 Jun 2016 :  8:07:53 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add arabesque to your friends list Send arabesque a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is it only me wondering how the figures relating to which age groups voted for which result were come by? The whole point of marking the voting forms with a cross is to ensure anonymity.......
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Ari
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Posted - 28 Jun 2016 :  8:33:17 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ari to your friends list Send Ari a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Totally agree and it cannot have been from the actual vote that is safe and secure thankfully validated by address etc to prevent fraud. Some survey will have provided the statistics and how statically sound that survey was who knows?
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Heidi
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Jun 2016 :  10:01:26 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Heidi to your friends list Send Heidi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I find it very interesting that some people say the older generation shouldn't have been allowed to vote, as they won't have to live with their decision for so long (How rude!) It is possible that an 80 year old could live for another 30 years and a 20 year old could only have a year left. You never know! How many young people regret the choices they make in their 20's? Some of my friends have swapped degree courses, changed careers, had multiple partners, driven too fast and crashed their cars etc etc etc!
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 29 Jun 2016 :  08:26:59 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sad that there is so much bitterness and animosity; we have had a referendum and the result stands.

It is appalling that anyone should use it as an excuse for racial remarks. Managing immigration was only a small part of why I voted leave but it was a concern as we are a small island and there is a limit to the number of people we can accommodate; at the present rate (and immigration numbers are rising year on year) we would be building a new large town EVERY YEAR.

Racial abuse is against the law and anyone doing so should be heavily fined. However, on a thread my friend sent me an immigrant lady who said her son is a British citizen (no mention if she was) and she was worried that he would be racially abused and that his teachers at school would not do anything about it; it appeared from what she wrote that she was telling her son that we were all racists as we wanted to kick them out and that he would not be able to go to his teachers for help and she thought they would have to move to another country. It appears that there has not been any abuse but because we voted leave we are all racist and we now have a free rein to do our worst. Her poor son!

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