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stirling321
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Posted - 09 Sep 2014 :  12:54:34 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stirling321 to your friends list Send stirling321 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Are they any top quality pure bred sabino arabian studs in the UK?

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Lindsay
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Posted - 10 Sep 2014 :  09:27:00 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lindsay to your friends list Send Lindsay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Depends what you are looking for there is Picasso Kossack (Kubinec x Popova) at Performance Arabians and Rockefeller (Rhocky Road x JAA Gala Dancer) at Silvabak Stud - am sure there are more but these are the two that I know of.



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Faracat
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Posted - 10 Sep 2014 :  09:48:56 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Faracat to your friends list Send Faracat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Do you specifically want sabino1 or do you want a horse with any kind of sabino markings?

My purebred flaxen chestnut sabino (three jagged edged white leg markings, face marking and sabino 'roaning') is by AV Montoya.

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heathermcbreen
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Posted - 10 Sep 2014 :  10:45:56 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add heathermcbreen to your friends list Send heathermcbreen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ali Saleem (Rusleem son} has white throat markings, belly patch, four whites and big blaze. Seahorse Arabians or stallionsonline
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stirling321
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Posted - 10 Sep 2014 :  11:00:26 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stirling321 to your friends list Send stirling321 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Im not looking for a stallion but more of youngstock to buy with maximum sabino markings from a stud farm




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heathermcbreen
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Posted - 10 Sep 2014 :  1:15:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add heathermcbreen to your friends list Send heathermcbreen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Spirit Arabians breed flashy chestnuts with plenty of white but nothing as extreme as your photo.
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Faracat
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Posted - 10 Sep 2014 :  1:23:09 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Faracat to your friends list Send Faracat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A maximum sabino would be pure white and of course you can't show them as arabians are meant to have black skin. They are also very rare. SS Abida is a good example of one.



There will be ones with large areas of white markings out there and some with loud roaning too, but nearly all that I've seen photos of, aren't in the UK.

You should be able to find something with high whites and a white face, white flecks in the coat and a belly spot. Crabbets often have loud markings, so that might be a good place to start looking.

Picasso Kossak is certainly loud himself with the huge white triangle on one side, but the only purebred foals of his that I've seen have had much more minimal markings. It might be worth contacting his owner as they might have a loudly marked foal at the Stud.

http://www.stallionsonline.co.uk/stallion_53913.html

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pinkvboots
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Posted - 10 Sep 2014 :  1:28:38 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pinkvboots to your friends list Send pinkvboots a Private Message  Reply with Quote
She really is white I have never seen that before pink skin but without the blue eyes, she looks very correct too, so can you only show them as a part bred then?

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Faracat
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Posted - 10 Sep 2014 :  1:45:01 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Faracat to your friends list Send Faracat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would guess so. There was an article about the stud that bred her in an old issue of a magazine I have and they mentioned that she couldn't be shown as a pure due to her skin colour, which I personally think is a shame. Her whole pedigree is known after all.

She's by Simeon Shemini who doesn't have much white (a thin stripe and one white sock - nicely jagged though) and IIRC the dam was grey and definitely had mainly black skin, I can't remember how many socks she had. Abida had a little bit of chestnut when born (mainly her ears I think) but they greyed out leaving the white beauty we see today. :)



Edited by - Faracat on 10 Sep 2014 1:46:22 PM
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stirling321
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Posted - 10 Sep 2014 :  3:01:42 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stirling321 to your friends list Send stirling321 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you, sorry I meant ones like the photo 50/50 white markings to colour. They have some great examples in the US but hardly any here :(

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heathermcbreen
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Posted - 10 Sep 2014 :  4:39:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add heathermcbreen to your friends list Send heathermcbreen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In that case America is your best bet.... you will have to import a couple and start your own stud !
I personally love loads of white and extra splashes splodges but I prefer clear definition between the white and the chestnut/bay. I am not a fan of the roan look.
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stirling321
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Posted - 10 Sep 2014 :  6:45:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stirling321 to your friends list Send stirling321 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oooo that's my favourite too heather ha if money was no object hey

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garnet
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Posted - 11 Sep 2014 :  6:14:50 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add garnet to your friends list Send garnet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So how does maximum sabino differ from albino? Eye colour? Anyone know?

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Faracat
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Posted - 11 Sep 2014 :  8:30:38 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Faracat to your friends list Send Faracat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't think that you can get true albino horses.

I found a link - http://www.whitehorseproductions.com/white.html

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stirling321
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Posted - 11 Sep 2014 :  8:39:19 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stirling321 to your friends list Send stirling321 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Isn't it to do with the colour skin pigment and eyes?

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FireLight
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Posted - 11 Sep 2014 :  8:40:19 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add FireLight to your friends list Send FireLight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Enjoying this topic, very interesting.

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stirling321
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Posted - 12 Sep 2014 :  12:06:36 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stirling321 to your friends list Send stirling321 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm really shocked there are not any loudly marked sabino here :( I looked into importation and it's well out the price range so settled for a beautiful palomino colt :)

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Faracat
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Posted - 12 Sep 2014 :  1:26:51 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Faracat to your friends list Send Faracat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oooh! He sounds lovely. Can we see a photo of your new boy?

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stirling321
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Posted - 12 Sep 2014 :  2:43:04 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stirling321 to your friends list Send stirling321 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sameon boy I'm sure Sarah's on here isnt she? meet Woody...




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garnet
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Posted - 12 Sep 2014 :  7:55:38 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add garnet to your friends list Send garnet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Very interesting - thanks for the link, Faracat!

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Faracat
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Posted - 12 Sep 2014 :  10:25:44 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Faracat to your friends list Send Faracat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by stirling321

Sameon boy I'm sure Sarah's on here isnt she? meet Woody...






The photos aren't showing.

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stirling321
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Posted - 14 Sep 2014 :  7:45:25 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stirling321 to your friends list Send stirling321 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
will post his own thread .... 2 secs

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pinkvboots
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Posted - 14 Sep 2014 :  9:05:17 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pinkvboots to your friends list Send pinkvboots a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is he the colt out of Roe Aseel? I saw him for sale a few weeks ago if it is his sire is gorgeous seen him a few times at Round Oak, lucky you

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stirling321
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Posted - 15 Sep 2014 :  12:22:25 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stirling321 to your friends list Send stirling321 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
yes that is the one :) Sameon sandlewood

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Pashon2001
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Posted - 26 Sep 2014 :  5:57:26 PM  Show Profile  Send Pashon2001 an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add Pashon2001 to your friends list Send Pashon2001 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You can show a maximum sabino with pink skin, if its registered purebred then it is entitled, obviously it would be down to judges personal preference. Arabians don't have to have black skin, just dark. Pink skin under white markings is normal. I believe although I may be wrong that this maximum filly above is one in Australia?? If so their showing rules may be different, or maybe they just didnt see any point in showing her as they thought she would do poorly.


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badders
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Posted - 01 Oct 2014 :  12:03:14 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add badders to your friends list Send badders a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Could I ask a stupid question? If you crossed the mare above (max sabino) with a chestnut pure bred would they possibly produce a palamino purebred?
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