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Qui Gon Jinn
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 Posted - 26 May 2011 : 9:25:59 PM
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I've discoverd that Merlyn has a very small sacroid high up on the inside of his nearside thigh 
My vet is due to visit in a couple of weeks for vaccinations, so I am going to get it checked then, but I just wondered what you experienced people would suggest as a way of treating it more on a natural level? I've got Theja cream and have been putting that on daily for the last week. It had been suggested to me from a friend to try sarc ex from Global Herbs. Anyone else used this and was it successful?
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debs
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 May 2011 : 10:59:06 PM
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I am convinced Ali's ones got bigger much quicker when using The GH supplement.... ended up with the Liverpool cream,all clear at the mo...touch wood!!!
I guess though all these things work differently on individuals... |
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Callisto
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Posted - 26 May 2011 : 11:23:08 PM
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| Can't help with the natural route - I went with my vet's recommendation of the Liverpool Cream, and fingers crossed, it has been successful, although two disappeared on their own...( went before the cream arrived). |
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Linda
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mollydog
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 May 2011 : 09:24:37 AM
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| Hi I would not bother with the Sarc Ex, we used it on a horse where I worked and did nothing. He had his frozen twice and it came back then had it banded and it did drop off and then had some cream on and it did clear up. Sorry to hear you have found one, they seem to be on increase as with all bad things with horses? laminitis, cushings etc etc. I'm sure horses never used to be such a worry! |
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Qui Gon Jinn
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Scotland
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Posted - 28 May 2011 : 4:50:51 PM
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Thanks all for the advice. I wasn't sure about the GH products so that I'd ask those in the know!!
Just another thought..........has anyone tried any of the wart treatments available to humans, on sarcoids?! |
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Silver
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Posted - 28 May 2011 : 5:31:01 PM
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| One of our horses has had seven sarcoids removed up to now,we have used the Liverpool cream while she was coverded by inusrance.Since that has now run out we have got our vet to rubber band them and this has been up to now very successful, and a fraction of the cost of the Liverpool cream. |
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Callisto
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Posted - 28 May 2011 : 7:33:41 PM
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| Just to add, Lily's sarcoids were flat, so no way could you rubber band them. I have no idea what effect human wart treatments would have, but I would be wary in case it made them worse, I could well be wrong, but I don't think sarcoids are the same thing as human warts. The only sarcoid I had experience of before Lily's was when we were children, and our grey had a bulbous one, we were told by an old horseman to put honey on it (perhaps not a good idea at this time of year) and tie a noose of horsehair tightly around it. This worked very well, it dropped off and no scar, and no recurrance. |
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Qui Gon Jinn
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Scotland
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Posted - 28 May 2011 : 10:18:13 PM
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| Merlyn's sarcoid is flat too, so banding wouldn't work either. Interesting about the honey though as I have a jar of Manuka honey and I did wonder about trying that!! |
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sarah_and_sert
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Posted - 28 May 2011 : 10:48:16 PM
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These are sarcoids on my boy zeph , the other side of his sheath was just as bad. we have had one banded and the rest treated with liverpool cream and they responding really well to start with. the large one was flatish but as it shrunk developed a waist so this week thats been banded. will take recent pics tomorrow xx
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Silver
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Posted - 28 May 2011 : 11:05:23 PM
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We have banded flat sarcoids just by squeezing the skin through the band and it still worked well,depends on the size of them.
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 29 May 2011 : 11:27:52 AM
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I have a mare who developed one just in front of her teats. It was on a stalk and grew really quickly to the size of a grapefriut. I tied it off with string and it fell off after a few weeks and has never returned (must be at least five years ago).
Cost me nothing to treat and she has never had any more.
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marionpack
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Posted - 05 Jun 2011 : 5:58:12 PM
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I think it all depends on the type of sarcoid whether it is tied off or not, my friends horse had one that used to grow then drop off, then grow again, the vet said it needed tying off properly so that was done, 5 years later this horse is smothered around both sides of his sheath and groin and none of them drop off now, the vet came out again and said try blood route cream (not a good idea as made them very sore and now open), another vet came out and told us that the first one should never have been tied off as the root was still there and that was what caused the others to grow and now, because there are so many, they have to be left alone and just sprayed in silver spray to stop the flies, this vet also advised if you start any type of treatment, keep it up because if you stop it can promote the growth
I know all sarcoids are different, but starting the treatment on this one was definately a bad thing to do |
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Qui Gon Jinn
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Posted - 06 Jun 2011 : 3:07:56 PM
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I've been giving Merlyn Thuja tablets and applying Thuja cream to the sarcoid daily..........I'd say now that it has increased in size , albeit not massive, bit it has started to protrude from the skin so I would agree that perhaps fiddling with them makes the problem worse 
The vet is coming in 10 days, so will see what he feels is the best way to go with it. Thanks to you all for your comments and suggestions. |
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 06 Jun 2011 : 4:07:19 PM
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If you can, take photos of it regularly - if your vet thinks they are the type to respond to Knotty's magic cytotoxic cream, he will need to send photos. They can grow very quickly so a record will be really handy in planning his treatment.
Best of luck with it - we have had some banded, some cream, some left alone, some operated on.... |
    
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Qui Gon Jinn
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Posted - 12 Jun 2011 : 3:49:53 PM
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| Thanks for the advice Mrs Vlacq, I'll keep a log and photos. Hopefully we can treat it without too much hassle. |
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Qui Gon Jinn
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Posted - 16 Jun 2011 : 2:55:59 PM
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Vet has been to see Merlyn and says that his sarcoid is not an aggressive type, but he recommended Liverpool cream to sort it out. We've to leave it until October though, once the flies have all gone and treat it then. Will let you know how it works out!
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debs
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Jun 2011 : 8:56:35 PM
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Are there certain lines that are prone to sarcoids? Or is it 'just one of those things'??? I know arabs are susceptable to them, anyone know why?
Just got back from 2 week hols, Ali has, what was a teeny pimple when I left , to what looks like another sarcoid growing... |
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 19 Jun 2011 : 11:06:10 PM
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It's one of those things I think - quality horses (with fine skin texture) are more prone, hence so many in Arabs, TB etc.
Hope his isn't anything sinister - after your first, you do get really paranoid! |
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debs
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Posted - 19 Jun 2011 : 11:41:03 PM
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Thanks Mrs V! Soooo paranoid! Its a bugger, I have no day off for 2 weeks but think should get vet out sooner rather than later...have to get an early one!!!
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Callisto
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Posted - 19 Jun 2011 : 11:44:27 PM
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| Can you get a decent photo of it (or several) and email them to your vet rather than wait for a visit? (I did this with Lily's sarcoids at my vet's suggeston) |
Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
Linda
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debs
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Posted - 19 Jun 2011 : 11:56:52 PM
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| Yep, good idea, thanks... should know that after all the photographic evidence we have supplied!!! Cheers x |
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debs
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Callisto
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Posted - 23 Jun 2011 : 08:35:50 AM
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In what way? In the photos? Definitely allows the vet to assess the sarcoid and it's condition.
Do you mean the colour of the horse? Lily's a grey. |
Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
Linda
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debs
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Posted - 23 Jun 2011 : 11:08:04 AM
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Sorry, yes meant colour of horse!!! So we have greys and chestnuts... will be interesting to see if there are bay and black! (or am I just really sad??? ) |
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