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Callisto
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 Posted - 24 Jan 2010 : 12:33:24 PM
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Unfortunately my 4 year old mare Lily (Zahkira) has been diagnosed with a sarcoid on her belly, she is going to be treated by 4 applications of a cream from the experts at Liverpool University. I have not been told what sort of sarcoid it is yet, it is not raised and is approximately the size of an old 5p piece. It is on the hairy part of the belly approximtely where her navel would be if she had one, and she has accidentally caught it with her hind legs while laying down (it became swollen and bled very lightly and was pale pink in colour).
I would like to know about other peoples' experiences with this treatment i.e. how successful it has been and frankly how much I should worry about the outcome - having looked it up on the internet I have seen some very grisly and frightening sights.
She is perfectly happy in herself and full of the joys of spring 
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Linda
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Edited by - Callisto on 24 Jan 2010 12:46:32 PM
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 24 Jan 2010 : 4:20:47 PM
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| Several years back one of our Anglos had one treated with the same Leahurst developed cream. It was situated just on the elbow and responded very well and eventually disappeared, touch wood, no re-occurance. |
    
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moatside
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bey_sirocco
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Posted - 24 Jan 2010 : 7:38:56 PM
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Hiya,
My horses previous owner had my boy treated very successfully for sarcoids using Photodynamic Therapy. 5 years on and, touch wood, no reoccurance.
Obviously treatment depends on the type of sarcoid and it's location. Liverpool has a good reputation so you are in good hands.
Have you seen their website?
http://www.liv.ac.uk/sarcoids/ |
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fidodido
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Posted - 24 Jan 2010 : 8:05:32 PM
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My boy was treated for a very large very nasty type of sarcoid (can't remember what it was called) on his sheath as a youngster with the leahurst cream. It was successful and touch wood he's never had any since and that was 13 years ago.
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Callisto
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Posted - 24 Jan 2010 : 10:22:08 PM
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Thanks for your posts everyone, it is good to know that your experiences have been so positive - I needed some reassurance after scaring myself silly by over researching sarcoids on the net  .
Just waiting for the cream to arrive to start treatment, and fingers crossed that it all goes well. |
Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
Linda
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Sushi
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Posted - 25 Jan 2010 : 8:48:08 PM
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Hi
My gelding has just finished his treatment he has two small ones on his belly one on the insde of his leg but the worst one is the one on his nose!I was quite worried that it would be so sore that he would have trouble getting hay out of the hay net but is absolutely fine.He has already had treatment for one on his sheath that was a bit gruesome but just fell off in the end.Sure it will all go well. |
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Holly
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Posted - 27 Jan 2010 : 10:10:08 AM
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Cristle got 2 sacroids about 2 years ago. one on her chest and one under her arm pit which got rubbed by the girth so couldnt ride her for a few weeks. I had the vet straight out who suggested that i either left them alone and see what happens, treat with liver pool cream (expensive), try camrosa or he gave me the number of a natural therapy lady in my area to ask about remedies.
I tried camrosa and although the sacroids got red and angry at first within about 6 weeks they were gone and the hair started to grow back. camrosa only cost about £30 and i still have loads left.
cristles sarcoids were not raised, they were greyish/brown colour, about the size of a 2 pence coin and were flat kind of flaky appearance. when i put the cream on they got slightly larger and went red/sore/raw looking for about a week and then gradually shrank to nothing.
There is no sign of them ever being there now and she has not had any more in the past 2 years...touch wood (infact i forgot that she had even had them!)
I think that the pictures of the sarcoids that you see on the interenet etc are worst case scenario and only a small majority get that bad/severe......most can be treated quite simply.
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Bebely
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Posted - 27 Jan 2010 : 9:16:52 PM
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Jameel had two sarcoids just under his girth some years ago. We tried Camrosa but with no success sadly.
We then went for the treatment from Liverpool Vet hospital and although they looked horrible for a while they both healed beautifully and we never had a further problem. They were both quite large and left a small, flat, hard, dry patch but it did not cause a problem or discomfort even under the girth. I used a sheepskin sleeve to be on the safe side but with hind site that was probably not necessary. |
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 28 Jan 2010 : 2:46:37 PM
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I still have the photos of the sarcoid treated with Prof Knotty's cream. They all thought it would not respond normally as it had such a think base and was very vascular. They could not get a band around it. But the initial treatment was fine and we turned her out for a few wks break before starting round 2. It went cream, then grey, the disappeared. She has a scurfy patch that summer but you'd never know it had ever existed now. This mare hated the barrier cream being applied around the area, but was fine for ahndling the sarcoid.
But don't skimp on the vaseline! My friends horse lost part of his ear that way!
Gravity really hleps with chest/belly sarcoids so good luck! |
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Karon
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Posted - 28 Jan 2010 : 4:42:00 PM
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| Rash was treaed for sarcoids with the Liverpool cream, she had to have two treatments for one sarcoid but the oters went with one treatment and no problems. She did have a bit of a reaction on the second treatment - swelling and sore - but bute sorted that out. That was about 5 years ago now and, touch wood, no sign of sarcoids since. |
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Callisto
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Posted - 29 Jan 2010 : 09:16:15 AM
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| Thank you again for your replies, I feel greatly reassured. I think Lily is lucky in that the sarcoid is not in an area that gets rubbed by anything. I am still waiting for my vet to get the Liverpool cream and start the treatment, but I will let you know how it goes. |
Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
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kofihorse
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Posted - 07 Feb 2010 : 10:31:21 AM
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| Hi Linda, there is a school of thought that says if a sarcoid is not causing any problems, then just leave it alone and keep an eye on it. Unless your horse is constantly catching it and irritating it, that's what I would consider. |
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Callisto
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Posted - 07 Feb 2010 : 11:24:14 AM
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| I did seriously consider this Kofihorse, but she caught it with her hind legs while laying down in her stable (I know this because I wasn't sure what it was and had put green oils on it, and the green was was on her fetlock in the morning (and the sarcoid was slightly bleeding)), plus the opinion of Dr Knottenbelt on seeing the photos was that it should be treated, so she's had the first 2 applications of Liverpool cream. Fingers crossed it continues to go well. |
Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
Linda
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Callisto
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Posted - 19 May 2010 : 11:10:20 AM
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Well the sarcoid on her belly was successfully treated with the cream from Liverpool. Then I found one on her chest between her forelegs, sent the photo off to Liverpool and the vet started treating that one today.
I asked her to check Lily over and she took photos of three other suspect sites and a strange puncture mark which is white on her lip which is black.I noticed it while I was holding her, it is on her lower lip off side, roughly half way along the side, not visible when her mouth is closed. I just hope it is not another one as I can't see how it can be treated.
Of course they might not all be sarcoids, but I am beginning to get rather worried. Has anyone got experience of feeding Sarc-X while using the Liverpool cream, or anything else - I am wondering if boosting her immune system would be helpful?
Poor girl, she has been very good about it all so far. |
Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
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linda
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Posted - 20 May 2010 : 07:52:12 AM
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Another vote for Camrosa, we had a mare with one last year (inside of her front leg at the top) and I rubbed Camrosa on it every evening and it disappeared,
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kastell
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Posted - 05 Jun 2010 : 9:06:44 PM
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| Hi all, my husbands horse has sarcoids on & around his sheath, when I asked my vet she said use Xxterra ointment, although it's quite expensive & I've got to get it from the States. Has anyone else used this before? I'd never heard of it! |
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lehla
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Posted - 06 Jun 2010 : 8:02:49 PM
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| hi i have recently tried the thuja tablets and thuja cream with fantastic results in such a short space of time would deff reccomend very cost effective too i think for both cream and tablets it came to about ten pounds and got lots left brill lehla |
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kastell
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Posted - 06 Jun 2010 : 8:55:51 PM
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| Thanks lehla, I think I am going to try the homeopathic route first & see how I get on! Did your horses sarcoids go all scabby & horrid before they disappeared? Just worried about flies being attracted at this time of year! |
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lehla
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Posted - 06 Jun 2010 : 9:56:12 PM
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| hi there before going down the thuja route i tried camrosa which made them very sore an raw after speaking to a well known vet on this matter he described camrosa as sarcoid fertilizer by no way am i saying it dosent work i have heard lots of success stories treazting sarcoids with camrossa as they were so sore i decided to see if the natural approach worked the ones under belly were very red these were the biggest these now are shrinking daily they are tiny and have scabbed not sore looking the ones on sheath there were three have gone completley and a cluster that was starting behind ear are gone the flies havnt seemed to bother them with the thuja cream on hope this helps lehla |
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suyents
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Posted - 06 Jun 2010 : 11:51:31 PM
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| can someone please PM me with a supplier for thuja cream and tablets..i did google it Lynda but there are so many......thanks.xx |
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sasha
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Posted - 07 Jun 2010 : 8:23:21 PM
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My young mare has developed a few sarcoids in the udder area and a couple on the inside of her legs at the top. They are not very big. I tried thuja cream daily for a month, but the skin just went pinker,she is now having Virex cream but it doesn't seem to be doing anything.
Should I go down the thuja tablet route I wonder. How many do I give her daily and does anyone know where I can buy them please. |
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lehla
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 12 Jun 2010 : 5:01:25 PM
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Could someone please give me the details for thuja cream and tablets, please?
Many thanks.
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arabesque
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Posted - 15 Jun 2010 : 11:44:47 PM
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Barbara, I,ve just ordered some sarcoid remedy and thuja cream from a very helpful supplier. Unfortunately I've no idea how to pm you . If you give me instructions I'd be happy to pass on details! |
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