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nikki
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 Wales
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 Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 11:06:57 AM
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Happy new year to all!
I am getting concerned about our old english arabs, where are they, does no- one care that they seem to be disappearing?
One line in particular, the great mare Nuhra, there are so very few left remaining, that trace to her in the tail female line, with an old english/crabbet pedigree..
So do you have a crabbet/ old english arab, please share them with us, treasure them, i fear there won't be many left at all soon.
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Lindsay
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Scotland
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 11:29:57 AM
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| I have one she's 97.57% Crabbet and 100% Old English and is one of the very very few who traces in her tail female line to Queen of Sheba. She's the chestnut in my sig pics. |
   
Paidir dóibhsean le fiántas ina gcroíthe acu, atá coinnithe i gcaighin |
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Cate
Platinum Member
Scotland
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 11:51:40 AM
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I have just lost my Crabbet/Old English mare Celestial Silver (Aboud x Silver Yasmin) 96.71% Crabbet and I think 100% Old English, two months ago who traces in tail female to a mare Mahawiliyah. She is classed as a Kehailet Ajuz and has two chestnut full sisters, Chanele and Charisima who are still living. She left me a beautiful colt this year which makes losing her a little easier. I fear I am not going to be able to part with him as he is such a lovely boy and I dont want to lose her bloodlines. His sire although straight Egyptian has 33% Crabbet through his old Egyptian lines.
She is the white mare in my sig pics. |
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Edited by - Cate on 04 Jan 2010 12:25:57 PM |
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munchie
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 12:06:05 PM
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| Mine's fairly strong crabbet, Gari Dill Marlow said she 'couldn't have a stronger or better tail female line' (think is was tail female, she certainly used "stronger or better" which made my day!). Her dam is on all breeds as Silka Saint (thought she's called Sika Saint so not sure if that may be a full sister or a spelling mistake) and her father is Silver Invader. |
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sasha
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 12:10:35 PM
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| I lost my beloved Bint Rajina last year aged 21.Crabbet old english (97.55% crabbet). By Indian Rajah ex Gaynifah. Cestnut with white socks, great grand daughter of indian Magic/Oran. Miss her very much. |
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marionpack
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England
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 12:22:04 PM
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| My old boy (Sayan) who is 25 now was bought from Barton Lodge 22 years and has Nuhra on both sides of his breeding, I have been told that he is old english breeding, but don't really know how to check this or to find out what percentage crabbit he has, if any? but I do know that in all the 22 years that I have owned him, he has always been absolutely brilliant, if I could find another one with his temperament and manners I would buy him straight away |
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kathleen
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England
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 12:27:39 PM
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| I have both Alliya and Masliya both 100% old English and carry though dam line to Nuhra,Gill Dill Marlow Said that Alliya was one of the great mares and she has givin me a lovely filly this year (masliya)who i am hoping to have fun with |
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munchie
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 12:31:18 PM
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| I would definitely get another crabbet, she has the most wonderful temperament, and is also fun to ride if you're a novice (like my mum) or like more of a challenge. She makes everyone around her smile :) |
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Libby Frost
Platinum Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 12:38:06 PM
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all ours are Old English apart from NuNu who is el Shaklan lines
Boys;
Tarib Ghibli- Tarantara 1988
Sa'an Ma'an - Taretta 1998
Km Haaziq Imad -Haniqra 2003
girls
KM Ameera Imad - Taretta 2003
Taretta Ghili - Selinda 1988
Haniqra Hanif - silver wings Quality 1990
Blue Farasheh Blue lucius - Eastern Success 1984
its a shame its being bred out , due to fashion , when you see some of the movement these days makes my hair curl
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Edited by - Libby Frost on 04 Jan 2010 2:21:52 PM |
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Roseanne
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 12:57:26 PM
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| We have super 97.6% Crabbet boy who's currently on the AL sales pages. He's still entire and was bred for endurance (should make an exceptional competitor - all the right temperament and attitude as well as the build) but it may well be that he'll have to be gelded as a lot of people can't find livery for a stallion. It's a shame as he has all the Crabbet/Old English advantages as well as terrific movement and if he is as successful as I think he could be (his Dad was a 160km-er) people might want his genes!! |
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templars
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 1:13:04 PM
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We have:
Mares and Fillies
Hadida Pearl (Silver Scimitar x Pearl of Wisdom)21 years old
Templars Magic Pearl (Achims Silver Magic x Hadida Pearl)15 years old
Templars Cultured Pearl (Silvern Sceptre x Templars Magic Pearl)11 years old
Fiyah Dominion (Domino Jeel x Celtic Star) 15 years old
Templars Pearl Hanifeyah (Hanson x Templars Magic Pearl)2 years old
Taragun (Shogun x Taretta) 18 years old
Templars Moonsong (Last Crescendo x Majida Bint Mamoona)3 years old
the stallions:
Last Crescendo (Imad x Carillion) 12 years old
Templars Orchestral Pearl (Last Crescendo x Templars Magic Pearl) 10 years old
Star Ascendant (Star of the Seasons x Zaphelia) 8 years old
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rosie
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England
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 1:20:02 PM
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My mare,who is the horse in my avator pic, Rose Alba, is (I think) 100 % Old English, 95.65% Crabbet:
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/rose+alba2
Thinking about putting her in foal this year but not found the right stallion yet?
Edited to add:the photo of her was taken when she was about 17 years old so not a spring chicken! - shes now 20. |
     
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Edited by - rosie on 04 Jan 2010 1:22:09 PM |
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Avonbrook
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 1:57:03 PM
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I have:
Mare: Bint Zaehaebi (Autumn Royal x Richelle) 95.48% Crabbet (remainder Old English) AHS Premium mare
Stallion: Marcus Aurelius (Aurelian x Fiesta Magica) 86.99% Crabbet (remainder Davenport) AHS Performance Tested Premium Stallion
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flosskins
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 3:34:39 PM
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| my mare is 75% old english, 77% crabbet - Zifa. not sure if she has Nuhra in her lines though! |
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Treasure
Silver Member
England
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 3:50:42 PM
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I have Khazana Bint Almas, at least 70% Crabbet as by Diamond Star and out of some fast diminishing Courthouse lines through her dam Raqisa with a dash of Polish from the wonderful Argos. She was bred by Judith Evans and I have had her since a foal and she will be 19 this year, not that she knows it. My two middle girls are both by Aazari (BNC) who is high %age Crabbet but with the wonderful Camargue and El Shaklan blood. The older sister, Jumainah is out of high %age Crabbet bred Jammilah (BNC). My baby girl is out of Jumainah and therefore still carrying the valuable English lines and by the fabulous Azteq, Maxwell breeding with Egyptian, Spanish and all the fabulous Maxwell Aliha and El Shaklan blood again. It's the mixture of new blood on the baseline of old English that gives such quality and yet substance  . Nearly forgot my gelding Fantastic Silver  who is 100% Crabbet - sorry Tas but he lives away with Laura who also has two other Crabbet horses.
So the Old English bloodlines are still about and a lot of people are retaining these lines - you only had to see the Crabbet classes at Malvern last year - superb  ! |
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Edited by - Treasure on 04 Jan 2010 3:52:01 PM |
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Mrs Vlacq
Platinum Member
Wales
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 4:25:31 PM
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 We're not likely to deviate Nikki - no fear! |
    
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Cate
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Scotland
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 5:17:51 PM
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| My colt out of my Crabbet/Old English mare Celestial Silver is by my straight Egyptian stallion who I have mentioned in my previous post is 33% Crabbet through his old Egyptian lines as per his Crabbet certificate. I can understand not mixing Crabbet with lines that are already very mixed Arab blood, but where is the harm of using an Egyptian stallion? After all the Crabbet Arabian if I am correct originated from the desert, or am I missing something here. Do you not think Lady Blunt would have used Egyptian as new blood was needed?. Lady Wentworth I'm not sure of. I would love to hear what you all think on this matter. |
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Libby Frost
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United Kingdom
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M Robson
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Wales
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Lindsay
Gold Member
Scotland
944 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 6:52:08 PM
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My mare is going to the wonderful African Emir this year for a 100% OE baby for 2011 - a double Queen of Sheba baby I may add I'm so excited  |
Paidir dóibhsean le fiántas ina gcroíthe acu, atá coinnithe i gcaighin |
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mogwai
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England
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 7:38:07 PM
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I have Brightstar (ruby) bright cavalier/nishtar. Over 99% crabbet, 100% old english. I love the old english lines.
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leiat8
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 7:49:22 PM
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guys im gunna sound a bit thick here but im new to arabs(iv alwayes loved them just never been lucky enough to have one till now.lol) i think the mare i have on loan (silver sun light) from LMA Arabians is mainly crabbet but im not sure so i was hoping you guys could help.lol.
heres the link to her pedigree, i really should get a grip of this hole bloodline buisness.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/silver+sun+light2 |
     
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Miska
Gold Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 8:01:59 PM
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I have the beautiful Ashuer Miska (Rabidan x Shenkha), 25 this year, 100% Crabbet/Old English , unfortunatly she was never able to pass on her stunning looks (I might be slightly biased!) and bloodlines...something I will always regret.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ashuer+miska - with two lines to Nuhra. She is the chestnut in my sig. |
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jennypierson
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 8:16:58 PM
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My old chap Kasrin is thirty this year, he is by Indian Firedance out of Karlotta, tail female line is Nuhra. He was bred by the Brethertons and has been with me since he was seven. He is a great old boy and has raced in the eighties, did endurance in the nineties, been a film star, was greatly admired in the hunting field and has done all I ever asked of him. He still hacks out, but knows all the short cuts home, hope he is with me for years yet.
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Timbercroft
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Wales
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 8:17:32 PM
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Well done Nikki another good topic! 
Leia Sunny (Silver Sun Light)is 100% old English and very high crabbet, not to sure of exact % maybe someone can help us out on that one!
Also we have Makk Nishra(Shogun x Nawra) who I believe is a 100% crabbet???!!!
Here is Ella a few years ago with her old loan owner Kay!
We have a few others with high % crabbet too and I just think they are super!
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Mrs DJ
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 9:22:11 PM
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Hi. I am slave to Silver Zeyrha . 98.69% Crabbet 100% Old English, tracing back to Bint Helwa.
Would love her to have a foal, but don't have the facilities 
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Our English Heritage-where are they?
