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sarah greer
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Posted - 18 Sep 2004 :  9:07:54 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add sarah greer to your friends list Send sarah greer a Private Message
would love any info regarding the tadsor stud based in leicestershire.the horses belonged to hilda hayward and some of the names she mentions are Radiance El-Attorlando.What sort of arabs are they?ive been told old english.would love some history as there are three stallions that need rehoming
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georgiauk
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Posted - 18 Sep 2004 :  10:53:41 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add georgiauk to your friends list Send georgiauk a Private Message
Hi Sarah,

Had a quick look on the data source and the few pedigrees I looked at seemed to be GSB/ Old English. One horse I looked at had a polish cross.
Hope this helps, please post more info as you get it :-)

Cheers Lynn
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sarah greer
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Posted - 18 Sep 2004 :  11:10:14 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sarah greer to your friends list Send sarah greer a Private Message
could you tell me how to find the data source so i can check out the pedigrees lynn?
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georgiauk
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Posted - 18 Sep 2004 :  11:55:22 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add georgiauk to your friends list Send georgiauk a Private Message
Hi Sarah,

http://www.arabdatasource.com/

you have to pay for access, another good one for lookin gup pedigrees is

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/

Good Luck
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pat day
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Posted - 19 Sep 2004 :  2:16:35 PM  Show Profile  Send pat day an AOL message  Click to see pat day's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add pat day to your friends list Send pat day a Private Message
Sarah is there anything in particular you wanted to know.???


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pat ww
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Posted - 19 Sep 2004 :  2:46:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pat ww to your friends list Send pat ww a Private Message
Are you in contact with Mrs Hayward as I lost her address with my moves? She moved to Ashby and the horses were dispersed.

The horses were all old English bloodlines, not necessarily Crabbet but mix of Courthouse and ********tead I think. Our first pure bred was bred there, we still have her daughter, and a mare out of one of the original Tadsor mares. She had the last surviving Blue Domino daughter, and ours is her granddaughter. Very gentle and sensible horses, even the 20 year old stallions could be handled by an elderly woman who was slow on her feet.

There were some good ridden lines there, in its heyday they had horses doing (the forerunner of HOYs I think) and the only arabs there.

They used to have open days where all the horses came out on display, authentic costume the lot.

would love to hear of any surviving Tadsor horses, some I think went to the leicester area.
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pat ww
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Posted - 19 Sep 2004 :  2:48:56 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pat ww to your friends list Send pat ww a Private Message
Did not read your post properly, who are the 3 stallions?

Is Berooq still alive?, are the others Arrogance and Rambeau?
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sarah greer
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Posted - 19 Sep 2004 :  4:49:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sarah greer to your friends list Send sarah greer a Private Message
there are three stallions and one mare.the stallions are called arrogance rambeau and squirty!we are looking to rehome the boys as the first two are in their teens but squirty is only 8yrs old.i am trying to find out as much background as poss to see if anybody would be interested in the stallions and able to provide a long term loving home for them and thus enabling hilda peace of mind that they are happy and loved.
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pat ww
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Posted - 20 Sep 2004 :  11:49:17 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pat ww to your friends list Send pat ww a Private Message
Hi Sarah,

I assume that all the horses still have their registration papers, Hilda got a bit forgetful on the matings in the last years there but I don't thnk she had any surviving foals as both the mares and stallions she was using were older.

Without papers it could be hard to find homes for the stallions, no-one wants to geld an older horse. Have they been broken to ride now?

Can you tell me who the mare is?

The surviving mares when I was last there were
Radialanda 1973 chestnut El Attorlando / Radiance
Mifarisa 1974 bay Autunm Firefly / Hadassa
Cherialanda 1976 chestnut El Attorlando / Cherain
Princess Khadora 1981 grey Prince d'Oro / Al Kahira
Sharondara 1982 bay el Darorlando / Sharlanda
Princess Shadar 1986 chestnut El Darorlando / Sharlanda

At least one of the mares, maybe Radialanda, ended up in Aberdenshire. Near Frazerborough I think.

Hilda offered me Princess Shadar and Prince Arrogance many years ago, but at the time we had just bought a 2 year old colt, now a 14 year old stallion, and had our own full sister to Cherialanda and a mare on loan, on just over 2 acres, so it was impossible although had she only mentioned it a month earlier I would have jumped at the chance, 2 very nice arabs and perfect for anyone into preserving these old English lines. We have more land now but more horses too.

Arrogance would be 18 now and Rambeau a year younger. I assume Squirt was the bay foal I saw on one of my last visits. Can't remember now which mare was his dam, and he would be by either Darolando or Prince d'Oro. Nice bloodlines either way.

I can recommend them, but when I last saw them they had not reached their full growth potential, this would not affect how they breed on. And they probably look completely different now. Our own mare sold out of Tadsor as a yearling was being bred from as a 3 year old, and she has produced some hulking great foals! Not only taller but bigger framed. We got her as a teenage mare, and she passed on last year age 26, absolutely sound and still movement that had the WOW factor.

I wish you luck in finding the right homes, if it means a home or departing this life let me know and I'll see what I can do.
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sarah greer
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Posted - 20 Sep 2004 :  12:18:56 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sarah greer to your friends list Send sarah greer a Private Message
thanx pat.have sent you an email could you possibly ring me as really need to sort something out for these horses as time is of the essence.the mare is sharondara and not sure about squirty as hes chestnut.my tel num is 01455 822275 will call you back
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pat day
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Posted - 20 Sep 2004 :  4:07:36 PM  Show Profile  Send pat day an AOL message  Click to see pat day's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add pat day to your friends list Send pat day a Private Message
Pat,

can you tell us a little more about the boys.
I have found Prince Arrogance on the data base, but what about Rambeau, is that his reg name, if he is reg. Do you know if Hilda bred him

I know these boys are ridden, but anymore information however small in detail would be really helpful for them.

Thanks in advance, Pat


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Edited by - pat day on 20 Sep 2004 4:26:36 PM
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pat ww
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Posted - 20 Sep 2004 :  6:47:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pat ww to your friends list Send pat ww a Private Message
Info on 2 of the stallions

PRINCE ARROGANCE 1986 chestnut by Prince D'Oro /Cherialanda

Prince D'Oro by SADI /Domattora
Cherialanda by El Attoralando / Radiance

Sadi by Bright Shadow / Sirella
Domattora by El Attorlando / Radiance

PRINCE KHARAMBEAU 1987 bay by Prince D'Oro / Al Kahira

Al Kahira by Iridos / Radiance.

Radiance by Bright Shadow / Summerhill

El Attorlando by Count Orlando / El Attary

Please help, even temporary accommodation can give a breathing space to find the right homes for these lovely boys who deserve a break in life, these are both broken to ride.
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Sheena
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Posted - 20 Sep 2004 :  7:24:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sheena to your friends list Send Sheena a Private Message
HI Pat,

Who should people be contacting if they can help short or long term. Are there any tel NO's, e-mail addresses, contact names etc.

Thanks,
Alicia

Alicia


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sarah greer
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Posted - 20 Sep 2004 :  7:27:44 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sarah greer to your friends list Send sarah greer a Private Message
my telephone number is 01455 822275 if you click on my name it will tell you my email address
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pat day
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Posted - 20 Sep 2004 :  8:04:10 PM  Show Profile  Send pat day an AOL message  Click to see pat day's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add pat day to your friends list Send pat day a Private Message
Sarah,
the email facility doesnt work so you need to add your email address to your profile for members to contact you. I can also then send you the pedigrees of the boys. Just had a dummy run and sent one to myselfto check it works


Pat,,
you are a star. The information you have given had been invaluable.

The youngest stallion is 8, and is; ''PRINCE RADIATTORD'OR'' CHESTNUT 1996

If anyone is interested and needs to see a pedigree, mail me and I will forward them

Pat


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sarah greer
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Posted - 20 Sep 2004 :  10:43:50 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sarah greer to your friends list Send sarah greer a Private Message
things looking promising at the moment thanx to a wonderful response from the members.i have passed details to chris who is dealing with the horse placement on hildas behalf so he can present the information to hilda.fingers crossed for the boys!
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bridie
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Posted - 21 Sep 2004 :  10:10:12 AM  Show Profile  Click to see bridie's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add bridie to your friends list Send bridie a Private Message
Sarah....please let us know how it goes.

Mandy
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sarah greer
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Posted - 21 Sep 2004 :  10:23:33 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sarah greer to your friends list Send sarah greer a Private Message
i will post the final outcome.at the moment im waiting for info this end is quite frustrating.
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JSA
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Posted - 21 Sep 2004 :  3:48:04 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JSA to your friends list Send JSA a Private Message
Hi,
I've also heard things are looking up for 2 of the boys. Hope someone can help the 3rd boy and the old mare too. Fingers crossed for them all.

Jasmin
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sarah greer
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Posted - 21 Sep 2004 :  3:58:58 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sarah greer to your friends list Send sarah greer a Private Message
have had several good offers of homes and chris is going to propose them to hilda as tomorrow is the day that the horses have to be sorted by.it is then up to hilda to make her decision as obviously she is their legal owner.the only prob is at the moment that noone can get in touch with her!!!!!!i am at home waiting by the phone for the next direction.will post all info when it comes in.
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