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smj
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Posted - 22 Apr 2009 :  09:59:06 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add smj to your friends list Send smj a Private Message
Hiya,

I though id post a question here......
Have anyone in here experienced a horse ( we have an icelandic pony, 23 years old)
with lots of fluied in the body on the right side, al the way from the front to the back.....and almost nothing on the left??
We got the vet comming over in abit,to draw some blood,but im worried it could be liver/kidney or heart failur.
Any idea's or experiences??

Thanks for reading

Hanne -smj


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BeckyBoodle
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Posted - 22 Apr 2009 :  12:53:22 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeckyBoodle to your friends list Send BeckyBoodle a Private Message
The only experience I have is second hand of organ failure in an old donkey, in final stages of cushings. I think she had swollen legs, but was obviously in discomfort and pretty much lay down and gave up before the vet could come out.

For liver failure I might expect to see signs of jaundice in terms of yellowing in the white of the eyes, and or anaemia pale gums, tiredness etc. Fluid retention I think is mainly under the belly and legs, but it could be on the side - the main thing I thought that was on the right hand side was caecum, although I do know of a human who had liver or pancreatic cancer whose abdomen was drained daily of incredible amounts of liquid and was generally bloated. You might also see nose bleeds, and blood in the urine and maybe strong smelling wee. I believe that you can also become photosensitive, which you would notice particularly on white areas. Plus you would have your normal dull eye, dull coat - or excessive coat if cushings related.

Kidney failure is apparently less normal in horses, but given the age is possible. Typical signs are abnormal urinating with possibly blood showing, poor appetite and digestion would proboably also show, and the horse would probably be feverish. I think related swelling would again be seen lower in the horse.

Not sure if this helps in any way.
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Pashon2001
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Posted - 22 Apr 2009 :  8:11:50 PM  Show Profile  Send Pashon2001 an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add Pashon2001 to your friends list Send Pashon2001 a Private Message
I had a stallion with severe liver failure, he lost loads of weight and condition, but had no swellings anywhere. Due to the toxins in his blood affecting his temperament (he began to self harm) unfortunately he had to be put to sleep. But the autopsy showed there was little that could be done for him.


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Otto
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Posted - 23 Apr 2009 :  10:04:50 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Otto to your friends list Send Otto a Private Message
We had a 27 year old Welsh Sec D x who had liver failure. First signs were loss of appetite and weight loss, then lethargy and finally loss of balance (from toxin build-up affecting the brain). This all happened within the space of a few weeks. When the first signs started (very mildly I might add) we had him blood tested and this showed signs of chronic liver failure - apparently when they start to show signs of liver failure often 75% of the liver function has already gone. But he showed absolutely NO signs of fluid retention.

Like Pashon's stallion we sadly had to have our gelding put to sleep shortly after his diagnosis - still miss him loads even after 3 years...

Beckyboodle has a point - why is the fluid on the right side? Normally fluid pools at the lowest point of the body i.e. the legs and centre line of the belly. Wonder if there is something allergic going on??

Keep us posted




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BeckyBoodle
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Posted - 28 Apr 2009 :  12:42:24 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeckyBoodle to your friends list Send BeckyBoodle a Private Message
Any update on your icelandic pony?
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