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pathannay
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Posted - 04 Dec 2007 :  3:27:50 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add pathannay to your friends list Send pathannay a Private Message
Hi

I am sure we all suffer with muddy gateways in the winter months - I just wondered what any of you do to try to stop this, if anything? There must be a solution to help somewhere!!

Pat

www.azizaarabians.co.uk
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cassy
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Posted - 04 Dec 2007 :  3:31:18 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cassy to your friends list Send cassy a Private Message
I have this issue and after nearly breaking a leg ive put the field in three sections, elec either side of gate though a big gap and split field leaving the one in middle where gate is at either end of field free
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jacki
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Posted - 04 Dec 2007 :  3:32:35 PM  Show Profile  Send jacki an AOL message  Click to see jacki's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add jacki to your friends list Send jacki a Private Message
ive seen old carpet in muddy gateways that worked quite well!

sittingbourne kent
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NatH
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Posted - 04 Dec 2007 :  4:10:13 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NatH to your friends list Send NatH a Private Message
Hi Pat

I bl**dy hate muddy gateways and I'm definately suffering from 'em

That mesh stuff is good that Karen has, it's quite expensive but I think it does the trick. The grass will grow through it in the Summer so you won't loose any grazing but it gives a 'hard-standing' in the Winter months

Natalie
Chapel Lane Arabians
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Geena
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Posted - 04 Dec 2007 :  4:13:50 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Geena to your friends list Send Geena a Private Message
Rubber door mats with the big holes in. Grass grows through the holes and it is grippy for the horses feet


Zebedee
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ACGODFREY
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Posted - 04 Dec 2007 :  4:59:44 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ACGODFREY to your friends list Send ACGODFREY a Private Message
I am also wondering how you deal with this? Has anyone tried putting bark/wood chip down? I think the really heavy duty mesh stuff is great, but I think it's supposed to go down before the problem starts.
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rosyw
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Posted - 04 Dec 2007 :  5:28:53 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rosyw to your friends list Send rosyw a Private Message
Our gateways get really muddy, and as it's clay soil you can imagine how slippery it gets! a couple of years back, someone thought they were doing me a favour by leaving me 4 huge bags of sawdust to use as bedding, which of course I didn't, but it was brilliant tipped out in the gateways non slip, and soaked up all the wet, so I get him to drop off a couple of bags each winter now and I don't spend all my time trying not to slip over
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polly
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Posted - 04 Dec 2007 :  5:34:35 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add polly to your friends list Send polly a Private Message
I have the answer to your prayers !!! well.....next years prayers anyway
Seriously , there is a product on the market now that was being researched and tested when I worked for the company that sells it. The Gateway Protection mesh is a very robust green ( not blue -green, more of that later ) mesh, it come on a 20m roll, and you lay it and secure with metal "U" pins around water troughs and gate ways, BUT ( theres always a but isn't there !) you have to do this in the spring when the grass is growing....the grass grows up, through and around the mesh pulling it into the subsoil,...then it takes a couple of months of sunshine and rain to establish....you can then, walk(humans and horses) , graze,mow, drive tractors over it and the soil cannot get damaged. It really is the dogs B***cks. We teated it up on Bullbarrow, it gets VERY cold up there, and we covered a large area, placed two ring feeders and fed 60 cattle all winter on it...in the spring we ripped it up by tractoe , the mesh and the ground were undamaged.
Downsides----sheep will not walk on it so a problem if they share their grazing ( a positive boon for us as the sheep got hay and left the horses haylage alone )
it is expensive to buy in bits, it is much better to club together and buy a whole roll with friends.For current costs see www.batchelorsenterprises.co.uk and look at equestrian or grass protection. oh yes DON,T buy a protection mesh that is bluey-green it is from China or somewhere and it fracture in frost and the bits of plastic stick straight up when they break, straight into a horses frog!! its less than 190 a roll but cast loads more in Vet bills.
Sorry there is no magic solution for this winters Mud ...but maybe you can get thru knowing it won,t be this bad next year


Photos1and2EricGJones
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polly
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Posted - 04 Dec 2007 :  5:36:47 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add polly to your friends list Send polly a Private Message
That should read " we TESTED it up on Bullbarrow hill" duh


Photos1and2EricGJones
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pat ww
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Posted - 04 Dec 2007 :  8:48:04 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pat ww to your friends list Send pat ww a Private Message
This year my friend went for road planings, the lumpy rubbly bits when resurfacing is done. shes got lovely dry gateways, and provided you spread it asap it wont stick in a mountainous clump!

it was also dirt cheap, no pun intended, about 50 for a huge 20 odd ton wagon load delivered. if you spread it thin enough the grass grows through, and it levels quite well by driving over it a few times.

downside is they tip the load in one place, so unless you are friendly with a JCB owner its hard graft to move to where you want it.
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natntaz
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Posted - 04 Dec 2007 :  8:54:14 PM  Show Profile  Click to see natntaz's MSN Messenger address  Send natntaz a Yahoo! Message Bookmark this reply Add natntaz to your friends list Send natntaz a Private Message
We have problems on our DIY yard but a friends husband got
some of those old rubber mat things that they have in kids
play ground. It does have little holes in it but it does
seem to be working better than anything else we have tried



Natalie Pix. Essex. Tariq ibn Radfan and Taroub
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MinHe
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Posted - 04 Dec 2007 :  11:05:36 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MinHe to your friends list Send MinHe a Private Message
Originally posted by polly

I have the answer to your prayers !!! well.....next years prayers anyway
Seriously , there is a product on the market now that was being researched and tested when I worked for the company that sells it. The Gateway Protection mesh is a very robust green ( not blue -green, more of that later ) mesh, it come on a 20m roll, and you lay it and secure with metal "U" pins around water troughs and gate ways, BUT ( theres always a but isn't there !) you have to do this in the spring when the grass is growing


I second this, DON'T try to lay it now if you buy some! A friend made that mistake last year on one of her walkways - the mud oozed up through it and it turned into a ski slope...she thought she and the ponies were all going to end up in plaster . She felt a right muppet when the company told her she should have waited until spring - now it's had time to bed in, she's really pleased with it.

Old carpet, eh? At last, a use for the cat-vomit beige shagpile abomination that my OH bought for the landing - never let a man who is colour-blind make ANY decorating decisions!

Keren
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polly
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Posted - 04 Dec 2007 :  11:10:25 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add polly to your friends list Send polly a Private Message
MinHe...you let a man ...a man make decsisions ???On ANY matter ??Why why why would you do that why????


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MinHe
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Posted - 04 Dec 2007 :  11:16:10 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MinHe to your friends list Send MinHe a Private Message
Originally posted by polly

MinHe...you let a man ...a man make decsisions ???On ANY matter ??Why why why would you do that why????


In my own defence, I must point out that he bought it BEFORE he met me . He also bought what he thought was an oatmeal-coloured carpet which is actually snot-green (blech!).

However, he does make some good decisions - like buying his high-percentage Egyptian stallion, and also to get an exercise cart a couple of weeks ago. He is a proper horsey man though, which probably explains why he is better at decent decision making than most - as long as it doesn't involve carpet!

Keren
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polly
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Posted - 04 Dec 2007 :  11:30:03 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add polly to your friends list Send polly a Private Message
I agree...they can...occasionally VERY occasionally make good descisions. My OH best one was marrying me , and living with a whole host of animals he now says he could never live without

but he is not colourblind.....snot green eh ? yes BLEHHHH


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Evie
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Posted - 05 Dec 2007 :  01:59:51 AM  Show Profile  Click to see Evie's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add Evie to your friends list Send Evie a Private Message
we used road planings at the yard I used to be at and they worked very well.

Bristol
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gossy
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Posted - 05 Dec 2007 :  09:48:29 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gossy to your friends list Send gossy a Private Message
WE HAVE MUDDY GATEWAYS BUT ALSO A HUGE GREAT PIECE OF CONCRETE IN THE GATEWAY BEFORE THE MUD, WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST TO PUT OVER THE CONCRETE WHICH IS WORSE THAN THE MUD??

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marionpack
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Posted - 05 Dec 2007 :  11:37:06 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add marionpack to your friends list Send marionpack a Private Message
Our YO digs out the gateways slightly, then puts road plannings down then puts the soil back on top, we never have muddy gateways and it is so lovely

Berkshire

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Roseanne
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Posted - 05 Dec 2007 :  11:52:49 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roseanne to your friends list Send Roseanne a Private Message
Gosh Marion, what a gem! Shame he can't bring his digger over a county to do my gates!
Perhaps I'll ask my brother in law who has a digger. Only thing is I think everything bar shavings or carpet will have to wait til spring now as any heavy machines on my paddocks would create mayhem - it's been raining stair rods the last couple of days and it's so muddy!!

Roseanne
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bexr
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Posted - 05 Dec 2007 :  2:21:47 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bexr to your friends list Send bexr a Private Message
A small warning on road planings these can be classed as contaminated material, and you may end up with the eviroment agency on your case.
We have used bark peelings before and they have worked well. It cost us 25 a silage trailer full.

Bex
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Porsche
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Posted - 05 Dec 2007 :  2:54:15 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Porsche to your friends list Send Porsche a Private Message
What do I do?? Get very very muddy!! LOL

Shambars favourite game is to wait whilst you duck through the fence then give you a nice strong nudge in the small of your back so you go face first into the mudSod-pot! He then stands there shaking his head up and down so his lips smack together, I swear thats him laughing!! LOL

Some people are like a Slinky ... not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs.


RIP Fuzzy Bear...Angela RIP......Legacy 1day old...............La Carrera.................Aisa and Bruce
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kimzi
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Posted - 05 Dec 2007 :  4:04:10 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kimzi to your friends list Send kimzi a Private Message
I agree road planings are fantastic (we have never experienced any problems with foreign objects and as long as you are not near a watercourse you should have no problems with the env. Agency)and it means you can still get vehicle access through gates when they have been laid.
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honey
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Posted - 05 Dec 2007 :  4:26:31 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add honey to your friends list Send honey a Private Message
we have this problem so what did we do, went out and ordered 2 ton of 7mm aggregate grey stone. only prob we have is shifting it but done part of it and we no longer sink to our knees once finished we will put a layer of blinding or sommit over the top and it will give a nice soft but firm finish will take pictures when its done.


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heathermcbreen
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Posted - 05 Dec 2007 :  5:42:53 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add heathermcbreen to your friends list Send heathermcbreen a Private Message
It helps a bit to put an electric tape a few metres back from the gate, then at least you can get the gate open and the headcollar on the horse without being totally stuck in the mud yourself. It does not stop the poaching up though... just moves it back a bit. I like the sound of that mesh stuff, I have seen it on extra parking areas at National Trust houses. I may invest in some of that.

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bexr
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Posted - 05 Dec 2007 :  11:50:55 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bexr to your friends list Send bexr a Private Message
We have a farmer near us that was made to remove all the road plannings he put down in front of his building, given a hefty fine and the whole place was inspected. It was not near an water, but it is class as contaminated substance due to the tar and any fuel mixed in with it. ALL plannings are ment to be taken and de contaminated.

Bex
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beau
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Posted - 06 Dec 2007 :  07:24:12 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add beau to your friends list Send beau a Private Message
Hi,

Near a friends yard they do alot of forestry commision work as she has alot of woodland nearby, she once stopped the workmen and asked what they did with their bark they said they take it to be burnt, she kindly asked if they would dump it at the yard, they did and spread it for her too for free!!! She now has bark (playground type stuff) in her gateways and made a menage surface with it too, whenever she needs more they come back the next year and deliver more lol,.,
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