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sammie_85
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 :  12:09:32 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add sammie_85 to your friends list Send sammie_85 a Private Message
I have a Crabbet Arab Mare called Wrenwood Zerrafin, Sire Silver Finesse, out of Kingsettle Ziforta. Does anyone have an idea on her percentage please?

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/wrenwood+zerrafin

Edited by - sammie_85 on 09 Aug 2009 2:05:55 PM
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ashabarab
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 :  2:24:38 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ashabarab to your friends list Send ashabarab a Private Message
this pedigree looks to be mostly english apart from kaplja who was russian
possibly most of the english is crabbet [looks it to me] but l am not an expert

ash
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sammie_85
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 :  2:32:09 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sammie_85 to your friends list Send sammie_85 a Private Message
I gathered that from her pedigree. I was trying to work out her percentage as a lot of her relatives are 100% crabbet but i have not go around to looking much past the fifth generation in detail. She is a gorgeous mare but not quite as calm as many crabbets are!
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Dee1
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 :  3:24:41 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dee1 to your friends list Send Dee1 a Private Message
Hi

If you go on to the following web site :- www.crabbet.org.uk you can apply for a heritage certificate which calculates exactly what percentage your mare will be. I did it for my lady. The certificates are lovely and it makes fascinating reading.

Just be prepared for a little wait. It takes ages for them to work through the pedigrees but it is well worth it.

Keep us posted

Dee x

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kastell
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Posted - 07 Jan 2009 :  7:33:37 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kastell to your friends list Send kastell a Private Message
Hi, I'd say she's approximately 95% Crabbet, with Russian blood via Kaplja (although she has allot of Crabbet blood within her pedigree) & some Old English / GSB blood as well. I'm no expert though, so getting a certificate from the Crabbet Organisation would be a good idea.

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sammie_85
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Posted - 08 Jan 2009 :  2:28:45 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sammie_85 to your friends list Send sammie_85 a Private Message
Thanks for that. I thought she was a high percentage. I will get a certificate I think as well, I just wanted to know before three months!

Kaplja was bred from the Tersk Stud and I read they got most of their foundation stock from Crabbet Park so does that not make her technically crabbet or have I got that completely wrong?!
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ashabarab
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Posted - 08 Jan 2009 :  3:21:48 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ashabarab to your friends list Send ashabarab a Private Message
you are right
rixalina was bred by crabbet
naturalistka was bred in russia but with crabbet parents
l just did not go back that far

and even priboj had a crabbet dam

mammona was one of the foundation stock [tersk] but was imported from poland

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sammie_85
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Posted - 08 Jan 2009 :  5:13:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sammie_85 to your friends list Send sammie_85 a Private Message
I went back a bit further and did some research on the Tersk stud because of Kaplja and saw about the Crabbet purchases.

Also, Skowronek features in her line, does he come under as a Crabbet as i was reading before that some dealers say you cannot prove where he comes from and will not accept him?

I knew before that she was russian too but did not know from Tersk so that is a bonus as well. I have often looked at their horses in awe!

Also, what should I be looking for in her as a Crabbet? I have only had her since May and although Arabs have always been a love of mine and I knew of crabbets I never really knew that much about them.
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